MAGA thinks they smell blood in the water on the trans issue, so that’s their chosen wedge issue for the foreseeable future. I’m the past it was abortion, flag burning, kneeling, gay adoption, gay marriage, gay gayness, etc.
The proper answer to any trans nonsense is: “I am not a doctor, and I won’t presume to interfere with the medical decisions between any patient and their doctor, on any subject. I have absolutely no opinions on this subject, and do not consider it an appropriate subject for a political discussion. It is an appalling and indefensible political strategy to use any medical issue as a political talking point, so I’m not interested in your opinion either.”
That works for ANY medical issue, including abortion.
El-Sayed is a doctor though :)
Incredibly worded and well said!
I watched the entire thing.
I can’t stress enough how Sayed stayed calm and cool during the whole thing, while the clown on the left there was constantly trying to talk over him (as is the game plan for all those swamp creatures).
I couldn’t sit there and be as patient and calm as Sayed, that’s for damn sure. It’s about time we started taking a no nonsense stand, and I am here for it. :-)
I mean it’s their whole effective schtick after all because Americans are not intelligent. Loud and repeated is the truth to so many Americans when they have little to no critical thinking skills. Whoever is the loudest, the fastest, the most obnoxious is the victor of the debate when it comes to the vast majority of the American electorate.
it’s sad but it works and it make tons of money promoting this type of discourse instead of actual boring, proper debate and discussion.
I’ve only watched a part but i laughed at the the part of: “Have you followed then news recently, it’s pretty big.” It’s only big because they misuse their platform to make it big. When you look at the numbers of actual people affected, well let’s just say the amount of measles death in certain states is higher.
Cant talk about things that actually matter, because trump and republicans are directly responsible for that.
So we have to inflame idiots by talking about stupid bullshit that no one cared about until they poured gasoline on it to make it a wedge issue in desperate attempt to salvage votes from the mess they’ve personally created.
Sorry to reply to my own post…
but everything from the right (even back before the party flip, because it doesnt matter what the label was, they were still the same assholes) is nothing but culture war shit.
Segregation was a culture war. A culture war that they ultimately loss, and while its terrifying ramifications are far from over even today, they did admit defeat on it… Which is why leaders held secret meetings, of which there are recordings of, to figure out what the next hateful wedge issue would be… and they came upon abortion… and even they struggled with deciding on abortion, because literally no one gave a flat fuck about abortion outside the catholics, and they were mocked for caring about abortion.
But they decided Abortion was their best bet for the continuing culture war bullshit, so they went whole hog on it, and within a year ministers and priests and politicians and the whole propaganda machine churned into action and suddenly gave a fuck about abortion and declared it the great evil of our time
and that went on for 50+ years, until they started losing the battle on Abortion… and just like they did when they lost the battle on segregation, they had to come up with a new cultural wedge issue, because they cant argue on actual politics and records because their politics are as awful as their goddamn records… And what did they land on? Trans people. Who are the new desegregation, the new abortion. And just like every time previous, they want to inflame hate to trick gullible idiots into voting for them out of fear.
and trans people existing is such a weak fucking wedge issue, that they are trying to go back to segregations racist arguments, with trying to be oOoOoOo big spooky about black people existing, or spreading blatant lies about them eating all the dogs and birds, or that the brown people are here to rape our women and take our jobs, and all the other tired tropey bullshit.
Fear fear fear FEAR FEAR. Thats all it boils down to. Trying to convince sheltered idiots to fear what they havent experienced. to fear who they don’t know. to fear everything that is unknown.
Beacuse as long as people are drowning in adrenaline fueled fear, they’ll never stop to look around them and realize its all fucking bullshit and admit they’ve been duped and lied too.
“I can’t afford to live.”
“Does that lady have a PENIS?!”
“Um…”
“The Ladyboy Muslim immigrant with the illegal penis is desecrating the American Flag and that’s why you can’t afford groceries”
“Um… I don’t know but I should find out! They could be trying to invade girls bathrooms! I’m going to spend all my money to support this obvious life threatening situation!”
“Lettuce now gives you diarrhea!”
What else is on? “Police called on gay men holding hands!”
Standard acceptable answer:
“think about this last week. How many times did you personally feel like things were too expensive? How many times did a cis woman you personally know lose to a trans woman in sports?”
How many times did you personally feel like things were too expensive?
Even this is a weak framing.
“How many times did you personally feel like your are being overcharged for groceries, utilities, or rents?” puts the blame where is belongs.
Stuff isn’t just “more expensive” by some mystifying method. People who own shit are raising prices on you. And these same people are paying you less for your work.
As though he has to think about prices…
He doesn’t, but there is value in putting it in the minds of his viewers
Watters is incapable of thought.
I assume OP was referring to El-Sayed talking to the Fox audience of drooling masses.
that is their M.O. - to distract.
Also, just to be gross.
Like we haven’t had co-ed sports going on time immemorial. But tennis mixed doubles is now Haram in Trump’s America
They “communicate” exactly the same way narcissists do…
It’s absolutely the right move to not even play that game. Don’t let them use that weapon to distract from the issues.
I always thought Bill O’Reilly was a bad person.
But for Jesse Waters, I have a hard time even classifying him as a person.
And then El-Sayed asked Watters if he was circumcised, LMAO
Asking one of the most insecure men on tv about his dick
BOSS MOVE
Edit: sorry, here’s the link
the Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate in Michigan, has raised eyebrows after asking Fox News’ Jesse Watters if he is circumcised during a combative prime-time interview.
Man fuck right off, that wasn’t at all a weird question to ask in response to a fucking weird obsession Jesse has with children’s “dingilings”
Jesse Watters is the one who brought it up, after all.
El-Sayed (a medical doctor, by the way) only responded in kind, and Watters - having brought it up as some kind of battle mark, some line that should never be crossed - immediately reversed course at brakeneck speed and attempted to dismiss it as if it were nothing, framing El-Sayed as an absurdist for even mentioning the subject that Watters himself raised in feigned outrage, despite El-Sayed’s repeated warnings that Watters would regret addressing the subject
If you ever believed that the manipulation stream media was on the right side of history. Then this whole interview plus the one Welker did with Angie Nixon should tell you that they never were.
These companies act like assholes to Progressives and DSA while throwing cotton candy at Pedophiles and Rapists.
But…it is on the right side…
You could say they are on the far-right side of history 🙃
…and this article agrees with you. Wh…why are you telling them to fuck off…?
On the surface the article comes off as rather neutral in tone but the headline, the line about “raising eyebrows”, and really just the existence of this article at all is so standard for “left” leaning news corporations.
Mamdani’sEl-Sayed’s response didn’t “raise eyebrows” from anyone except the fox viewers who would have already been fired up before the camera even started rolling and all this article is doing is validating them.It’s always the same thing, politicians on the right are allowed to say or do anything they want freely without any scrutiny and those who are left of centre are held under a microscope.
As a (Godwin’s Law proving) example: imagine if what
MamdaniEl-Sayed had said was “I actually think Hitler was a bad person” and then we got articles about that statement raising eyebrows. It wouldn’t be false but the only people it’d be referring to would be Nazis and why the fuck would you validate or acknowledge their opinions?That was El-Sayed, not Mamdani. Mamdani is the mayor of New York.
Oh right. I think I got the names mixed up since I had been commenting on Mamdani earlier. Tbf I’m not American so it’s a bit surprising that I even know the name of an American city’s mayor at all lol
Watters is so grating in his speech, can’t watch it, but it’s impressive to see someone put up with him for a half hour
Things went off the rails when Watters asked the progressive if he supports gender-affirming surgery for those under 18 years old.
“Sex change for minors. Do you support that?” Watters asked El-Sayed, to which the former public health official said, “I just think the government shouldn’t tell you what kind of healthcare you should have.”
“So you think it’s okay for a parent to slash his kid’s ding-a-ling off?” Watters asked.
El-Sayed retorted: “Do you really want to have this conversation? Are you circumcised?”
The shocked Fox News host said, “Yeah, but I mean that’s a personal question, doctor.”
Watters then said circumcision is “different than castration,” but El-Sayed argued, “I’m just saying that yes, circumcision is surgery on a kid’s ding-a-ling.”
Watters called El-Sayed’s comment “wacky,” adding, “Abdul, Michigan’s not going for that. That is sick stuff.”
Holy shit what an inane hypocrite. I swear conservatives are going to give me an aneurysm
“No, we only cut the foreskin off, not the whole penis! We aren’t crazy.”
Sweet Satan, if only he could hear himself.
Jayzuss wept (for his lost foreskin, obvs)
If he had any foreskin it was burnt! (I too lament a lack of foreskin, so whatever)
I find it darkly humorous that ribbed condoms are meant to simulate a foreskin. Yes, our culture removes the foreskin, but they’ll sell you a fake one to replace it!
Is that why I always preferred those? I had no clue. I always thought it was just because they’re the only ones that come in a large enough size…
Or maybe it was eaten by Jeffrey Epstein, who could afford a personal chef good enough to never burn a foreskin
he supposed to be the replacement tucker carlson.
A poser of a poser?
Transcript from the article:
“Sex change for minors. Do you support that?” Watters asked El-Sayed, to which the former public health official said, “I just think the government shouldn’t tell you what kind of healthcare you should have.”
“So you think it’s okay for a parent to slash his kid’s ding-a-ling off?” Watters asked.
Abdul El-Sayed, the Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in Michigan (Jesse Watters Primetime)
El-Sayed retorted: “Do you really want to have this conversation? Are you circumcised?”
The shocked Fox News host said, “Yeah, but I mean that’s a personal question, doctor.”
Watters then said circumcision is “different than castration,” but El-Sayed argued, “I’m just saying that yes, circumcision is surgery on a kid’s ding-a-ling.”
I think something is lost in converting it to text. Something of the essence of the moment really… You have to see it and hear it.
But, here, we cans ee something important about both Watters and El-Sayed-- Watters fancies myself some newer, better Tucker Carlson, but isn’t smart enough to realize that he has Carleson’s same weaknesses and is not nearly as clever nor adroit as Carleson-- something El-Sayed is both clever and adroit enough o take advantage of in this moment, and does, both warning Watters of beforehand before baiting a trap and drawing Watters witlessly into it.
Carlson’s dad ran Radio Free. He is generationally skilled at what he does.
I believe it. But I’m not going to watch him :p
well, it’s both low-hanging fruit, and there will, doubtlessly, be many more moments like these to come. take it (or not) as you will
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So you think it’s okay for a parent to slash his kid’s ding-a-ling off?
How insane that these are the questions. Ask him about UFOs and Bigfoot next.
This was such a bizarre interaction.
El Sayed seems brilliant at responding to these gotcha questions.
I’m sure the guy like that has had a lifetime of practice
I love it 😂
bro wake up, a uhh, another ‘once in a generation’ headline just dropped
Not being an American, I tend to have very little experience of Fox News, and that’s how I like it.
But how do they keep replacing one shithouse with another?
Bill O’Reilly gave way to Glen Beck gave way to Fucker Carlson gave to whoever this barely-sentient pile of dog shit is. Is there a training school for ridiculous, puffed up white boys who make that stupid “I’m just asking questions” face that I’d never tire of hitting with a bat?
You got a link?
Nice thanks
And of course Waters couldn’t/wouldn’t understand.
What a Ding-a-ling!
thought the bar was low.
As low as your ding-a-ling!
hes also irl DENNIS, who slashed a fox womans news employee tires to try to get in her pants.
Is there a link with the correct video?
Having already watched it a few times, I assure you, this is the correct video
Satisfaction not guaranteed
I looked at that link a couple of times before giving up on trying to find the video. What a trash source.
gonna be more fun when they bring up the piker radicalisation pipeline’s new statement supporting punishing jews for being ok with the existence of israel
Fuck off zionazi
Watters in that interview basically acting like a child. If the conversation didn’t go his way he would change it while sayed was speaking.
You can see at multiple points sayed “you going to let me talk”
GOP rather discuss ethnic ostracizing and its non-existent values than bring up the affordability crisis and inhumane immigration enforcement tactics being plagued on to their own nation and responsibilities.
MAGA is zealously a dictatorship movement
I’ve seen ads from / in favor of a number of GOP candidates from around the country lately. More and more of them are running with affordability crisis talking points. Hypocrisy, sure, but what’s new?
For an uninformed voting populace, being the cause of and the solution to major problems is a viable plan.
Politics are so broken you can just say whatever and it doesn’t matter anymore in the US.
You are completely right about being the problem and a pretend solution. The conservatives love to do this with the deficit. Run it up and ignore it completely and then start screaming about it when the other party takes over.
Politics are so broken you can just say whatever and it doesn’t matter anymore in the US.
I mean, it does matter, because it does impact domestic policy.
You’ve got a large portion of the population that’s been innoculated against state regulation of business as a fundamental idea. And that same core group has been agitated to believe they need a massive (heavily privatized) police presence to protect them from poor, gay, brown, non-Christians.
The conservatives love to do this with the deficit. Run it up and ignore it completely and then start screaming about it when the other party takes over.
Unfortunately, it’s the fucking liberals who spend all day screaming about the deficit.
Because we also have a large segment of the population sold on this fantasy notion of Household Economics, where one American owing another American $20 hurts the economy. So you just want to spend as little money as possible on everything all the time. And if you’re not doing that, you’re creating inflation.
It does matter if it gets to the policy level. Most of the time though, it is just lip service to get elected though.
You certainly have a large part of the population that is clueless to important concepts such as regulatory capture. The government is no longer functioning as anything else than a mouthpiece for corporations.
Liberty is for the wealthy and their corporations by extension. Anything else is just propaganda that props up a system where your value is only determined by the wealth you have. This means the majority of people have no value in the current system.
You certainly have a large part of the population that is clueless to important concepts such as regulatory capture.
I don’t think they’re clueless. The term gets thrown around all the time, both in public debate and on back channel Internet feeds.
But there’s a real deficit of trust between different people using the term.
Very easy to understand the core concept of regulatory capture and to then establish the existence/function of the FDA with that concept in mind.
Fair enough, I see what is happening pretty clearly. The wealthy, and their proxies the corporation, have captured the regulatory bodies of the US. They then use propaganda to blame the government for burdensome regulations meanwhile passing additional regulations to benefit them and removing regulations to also benefit them.
The average person thinks it is government versus corporation but that is not at all what is happening. With all the conflicting propaganda we are fed it is a wonder that anyone can figure out what is going on.
Because they know they’re going to lose and want to say “I could have made things affordable but you guys elected a democrat” when the issue isn’t immediately solved - this will probably happen at every level of government
“How am i supposed to take this seriously” has become my default mood whenever i have to interact with society of late.
Love this guy. El-Sayed and Mamdani are really kicking ass! They are exactly what I want for my state (and the whole gd country too, but you know as well as I do that red states are hopeless and too brainwashed to ever do better).
Dr. El-Sayed was born in the US. Just saying. He is very qualified to run for president— though the bar is so low right now it’s a tripping hazard in hell…
They’re focusing on the message.
Kamala was doing the right thing by laughing in their faces.
But we have to take it to the next step. Piss them off. Tell them to stop wasting everyone’s time about which bathroom to use when people are dying because they’re afraid of going to the hospital.
Spot on. Journalism today is a joke. They’re owned by billionaires and mostly care about clicks and ad revenue, so they milk every stupid trend rather than go for the topics that really matter.
Politicians get too easily distracted. You don’t have to answer every bullshit question or take a position on every stupid trend topic. If a journalist doesn’t do his job properly, tell them off, or even address the viewers and their actual real-life struggles directly.
and then the party/msms put a muzzle on thier language, they knew it was hurting the Rs.
Oh damn. That’s why they’re coming at him harder than Mamdani.
He’s a threat to establishment careers.
No state is red or blue forever.
The unfortunate thing is that the high grocery prices are a direct result of a culture war. Namely, the one between the ultra rich and the rest of us.
Thats a class war.
Both can be true.
I don’t support billionaires lifestyles and I think something should be done about it.
One War, Class War
Yeah. That’s FOX News. They tell their viewers what to think, and the viewers obey.
They have a very specific propaganda program. It draws people in with fear, outrage and bigotry…
Then it invites them to divest of all other information sources (except maybe approved ones like OANN or WSJ) the way that an abusive spouse gets their partner to disconnect from all other social relationships.
And then it pumps them with MAGA ideology. The culture war stuff.
It’s literal mind control, but it’s like a reverse hack (trying a common password on multiple accounts), in that it hits a lot of people and sucks in those who bite. Usually white uneducated men.
I was on a 2.5 hour flight recently, and a guy a couple of rows up was watching Fox News. It just jumped from: Trans, Immigrants, Socialism, over and over and over the entire flight. It made me realize how fitting the term ‘News Story’ really is!
It identifies as news.
Under penalty of perjury, FOX News lawyers assure the court it is absolutely not a news channel but entertainment. Therefore should not be subject to news media regulations. During the 2020 election recount when they were lying about the integrity of Dominion Voting Systems election machines, the lawyers made it super clear now not news FOX is.
So FOX is not only a propaganda machine, but is deceptive at its core.
but… if it identifies as it, that kinda means we need to let it into the newsroom =(
Wait are you assuming it is journalism?
That’s repetition if just 24 hour news channels. CNN is similar they just harp on a different set of issues.
I’m mildly curious how much longer they can keep it up as they slowly become less and less relevant. Few under 40 subscribe to cable television and instead consume social media influencers who are both myriad and cheaper to influence.
They have a very specific propaganda program. It draws people in with fear, outrage and bigotry…
It’s the same one that’s been around since the 1920’s, they’ve all been cribbing from the same guy for over a hundred years.
The German jurist and political philosopher Carl Schmitt wrote about the inherent vulnerability of democracy in his book The Crisis of Parliamentary Democracy in 1923. He basically wrote the playbook that every fascist still utilizes today.
Writing “Every actual democracy rests on the principle that not only are equals equal, but unequals will not be treated equally.” Basically, you can tear apart any democracy by framing diversity and minority opinions as existential threats to the political community, by exploiting this you can lay the groundwork for majoritarian tyranny and state-sponsored exclusion.
