this may be the one, mastodon is mature and lemmy 1.0 is almost out… but I fear we may need lemmy 1.1 for it to actually be a good experience, since 1.0 is such a big breaking change.
Imbrace fo the impact !
Source? Does it ?
reddit has been forcing login popups, and app downloads on most peoples browsers. not all of them though.
There will always be one more thing.
Every time it happens, the stream of people becomes less … pleasant on average. Not to say there aren’t still good people that might come over, but the people that come at this point are pretty accepting of toxicity and are more likely to spread it.
Lemmy has already hit critical mass. More people means more bots, state actors, and trolls. But it also means more memes and small subs.
we could use more niche community/games, but we’re self sustaining for sure
I can’t wait for another wave of posters who refer to “this administration” and numbered amendments regardless of topic or international context.
Fr murricans can’t fathom being in an international space.
Oh ya well, go back to your country. Oh you already live there? Well…keep doing that!
At least for me, I’m now here 100%.
Good to know!
Personally, for the most part I left Reddit even before the Lemmy exodus. But this was the final straw. Since then, full time Lemmy.
Only if the affected users know about the existence of lemmy, and many of them likely do not. If you happen to still be using reddit, you should use it to shill lemmy, hopefully in a diversity of subreddits so that lemmy doesn’t become any more of an echo chamber than it already is.
All of my comments on Reddit mentioning Lemmy got shadow banned.
they will just go to instagram or tiktok, unfortunately.
Problem here is it relies on people using redit after having found lemmy. I know some people do, but I can only imagine it’s a one-way valve for most.
i only remember lemmy was a thing, when the API disaster happened after i got banned, people were really freaking out how to get back in reddit.
The Reddit is Fun app told me to migrate to Lemmy because it was being shut down. I never heard of Reddit alternatives before that.
I’m doing my part, and if you still use reddit make sure to use an ad blocker and a VPN at least to make it harder to get any revenue from you.
It’ll be both good and bad if it happens.
While it’ll be great for the threadiverse to have more growth it will inevitably put us in the crosshairs of bot farms and AI data farmers.
In the future, platforms like lemmy will probably have to find privacy-respecting ways of verifying that someone is a human. There are ways to prove someone is an actual human without relying on digital technologies at all. If you’re trying to prove humanity and not using human solutions, you’re going to fail.
I plan on going to smaller fediverse graphs if it ever gets too mainstream around here.
The moment I see a fuckin brand I am out. Joining whatever network has a zero tolerance policy for that corporate fuckery.
Feels like I’ve been here forever but however old my lemmy account is is how long I’ve been off reddit.
they already aggressively starting to force a login popup, and also trying to redirect old reddit to new reddit. there ultimate goal is to make people use the APP.
Anyone else remember when forums were just for having fun, not making the owners money or collecting data? Can’t believe it used to be that way.
Yes, and
their ultimate goal is to
make people use the APPmonetise every single interactionAlso, recently they require you to login to access old reddit where previously you could browse without logging in. They do not require a valid email address (yet) to create an account, so while not a total crap show, it is rapidly approaching.
This change is what led me to do a search for alternatives to reddit in which Lemmy here was suggested.other browser forks seem unaffected, while another will force the login each time.(with the old reddit redirect), and a extension that makes old reddit usable on mobile.
Yeah the forced log in is super annoying. I’ll browse the homepage and immediately get a pop up asking me to download the app and make an account.
Super annoying since that site has more of the answers to most questions typed into Google.
I think most who would leave have already left.
I can get out of lemmy what I got out of reddit a long time ago. It only takes a few hundred smart/funny people to make a chat board good. We’re here now. Hopefully some of the niche communities get ported over soon enough, but the real greatness of reddit was that it was mostly uncensored and intelligent opinion. That’s mostly dead.
Only in some communities it was…
And, the lack of censorship wasn’t a good thing. It allowed absolute shtshow’s like thedonald or fatpeoplehate to exist way too long. There were also numerous pedo subreddits too which were allowed to exist apparently.
I’d argue that Reddit is at least partially responsible for a lot of f’ed up shit that many countries are now facing, by empowering those weirdos
i think FB has reddit beat, FB resulted in more conflicts than reddit ever did.
Absolutely true
In fact, here in Australia, someone has now introduced legislation in parliament to force social media companies to provide a feed without the algorithm / only posts by people you subscribe to
Of course the right wing nut jobs don’t like the legislation, because they rely on scare mongering and rage bait to exist
That’s why you know it’s great legislation
The problem with reddit very specifically is that it was, in many ways, internet counterculture. It grabbed a very specific demographic which is much less likely to be active on Facebook - young men stepping out from their edgy teenager “it’s not a stage mom” stage, and into the throes of early adulthood. So now you have this very strange thing where “youth counterculture” is sometimes (often enough to be a problem) this unholy marriage between fascist nihilism and Christian nationalism.
And some of them upon arriving here, noped out (either immediately or waiting a few years first) and went back:-(.
That type definitely will not be so eager to return.
It does not help that people here can be INSANELY aggressive against each other.
The fuck you on about, scum?
Brother, early reddit was a fucking war zone lol. I swear, I learned more grammar from outright shame than I ever did in school.
Same. Kongregate essentialy shammed me one comment at a time into having a somewhat decent grammar.
Shamed*
Especially from hexbear, which not every instance defederates from.
Though I’ve also seen more than a few people so proud at their choice to flaunt pushing past consent, from Lemmy.ml.
Wait, people on Lemmy.ml do what!?!
When hexbear.net and Lemmygrad.ml are defederated, then nearly 100% of the time the most batshit insane replies I see are from Lemmy.ml.
Echo chambers do horrible things to people:-(.
i think there are more lemmy.ml users than the other 2 tankie instances.
Am just glad I blocked them all…
Reddit is 80%+ bots so I don’t expect those accounts to shift platforms. But I do imagine some former reddit users will trickle over as it continues to alienate its fanbase with stupid choices like getting rid of old reddit.
Most of Reddit’s users do not post, comment, or even vote.
Reddit’s product is the ability to sell people the perception of a natural conversation between two ordinary people on the internet, where the conversation is shaped by corporations and state agents.
Actual ordinary people get in the way of that. Reddit does not want users.
Can attest to that. I tried starting a new reddit account with an anonymous email just to talk to people. Apparently reddit assumed I was a bot and shadow banned me within a week. Never had that with any other emails.
Most of Reddit’s users do not post, comment, or even vote.
Tbf the 90-9-1 rule applies everywhere on social media, ostensibly including here though many claim to have merely lurked there yet actually talk here. But we may still have a 51-48-1 distribution here?
I definitely feel more motivated to participate here, because of the emphasis on human to human interactions
Same. I only lurk on certain Reddit threads, rarely, bc we lack niche ones here.
It’s a lot of dead internet with most posts being dredged up reposts and celeb gossip/worship (which has gotten way worse btw). It’s starting to resemble instagram "memes’ and the nerdier shit is definitely coming over here.
istg, what’s with all the harvesting they’ve been doing of cat pictures over there?: 11 hours ago, 5 hours ago, 5 hours ago, 6 hours ago, 26 minutes ago …
It can’t all be karma-farming.
Man you’ve got to be logged in to Reddit to see old Reddit now. The vast majority of us can’t see that.
Here, I’ve replaced all the links above with links for Redlib (a Reddit proxy) so y’all can read without trouble.
[…] 11 hours ago, 5 hours ago, 5 hours ago, 6 hours ago, 26 minutes ago …
(Search and replace my beloved <3)
Reddit itself if doing their best to make sure I don’t vist even accidentally
i’ve started recommending feddit.org (my lemmy instance) to people that i know irl, but the difficulty is the content: too much politics (especially trump and others), and not enough shitpost.
i try that too but its so hard to get people who are used to endless doom scrolling on reddit to accept the fact that u can scroll lemmy for 20min 2x per day and then u done (thats a good thing tho). Its even worse for the insta brained ones…
instagrammers are a lost case …
Ugh yeah that’s like half the people I know irl. I don’t get it
Infinite scroll + influencer slop + real world news = crabs in a bucket.
They can’t stand to not be able to see each other’s favorite reels and react back. If it weren’t so rotted and full of spyware it would be a laudable way to stay in connected. I consider it the empty calories of friendship.
Be mindful that that is a Germany-based right-wingoid cesspit that supports and excuses the Israel genocide of Palestinians, all under the guise that “legally they can’t ever be as evil as us, the Nazis”.
yeah thank you for informing me about the details of the instance that i’ve been using for checks note 4 years and am very well familiar with
also the feddit.org controversy about israel was mostly overblown. idk, probably 1 mod’s personal views got exaggerated as “the whole platform thinks like this”
Whoa, source?
The fediverse itself. It made quite the rounds on the grapevine for a few months. During their moment of simping for Israel in the Palestine conflict, Germany passed a law regarding “Nazi Exceptionalism” too, that basically punishes people for suggesting anyone could even try to be as evil as Nazis were, and was largely part of the rationale.
Not sure what you mean by exodus. I “left” Reddit for Lemmy, but Lemmy doesn’t do what I want, so it doesn’t replace Reddit. I went back to Reddit. Now I’m on both, for different reasons.
I don’t have any issues with bots on Reddit, but all the subs I’m on have very small numbers of users. The “equivalent” Lemmy communities are ghost towns where people haven’t made a single post in 2 years.
I don’t feel guilty about looking at reddit now and then, but I do it through browser and I will NEVER contribute content or moderation, ever again. Fuck them. I used redact, deleted all my shit. Site is 90% dead internet trash 10% humans who haven’t been banned yet for saying a bad word.
Reddit has a long tail of small communities you really can’t find elsewhere. Some of the ones I frequent tried to move to Lemmy but it really didn’t work out. Ended up moving to Discord, which is far worse than Reddit.
The only thing I’ll kinda miss is the sub for my sports team because it’s a good aggregation of news and people with insight and information comment there.
…but at the same time I won’t miss it because of the endless homering and doom n gloom anytime anytime happens
Probably not large scale, but definitely a spike. We’ve been seeing more signups lately due to the US talking shit about Canada.
We publish some graphs here https://fedecan.ca/en/guide/data/lemmy/users
