Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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    Dan Olson finds that “AI overviews” are not as constant as the northern star.

    The phrase “don’t eat things that are made of glass” is a metaphorical one. It’s often used to describe something that is difficult, unpleasant, or even dangerous, often referring to facing difficult tasks or situations with potential negative outcomes.

    But also,

    The phrase “don’t eat things made of glass” is a literal warning against ingesting glass, as it is not intended for consumption and can cause serious harm. Glass is a hard, non-organic material that can easily break and cause cuts, damage to the digestive tract, and other injuries if swallowed.

    Olson says,

    Fantastic technology, glad society spent a trillion dollars on this instead of sidewalks.

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      Hat tip to the AI bro in the comments willfully misunderstanding why he sees so much “sexualized schoolgirl trash” from human artists. Both in the sense of “illustrators take commissions from horny strangers who are one of the most consistent sources of actual income and one imperilled by genAI” and in the sense of “my dude in the modern internet if you’re seeing it that frequently it’s because the algorithms have decided you’re into that shit.”

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    This is an absolutely fascinating selection of people to have speaking at your event.

    How TheLightGetsIn
HAY 2025
THE WORLD'S LARGEST PHILOSOPHY & MUSIC FESTIVAL
SPEAKERS STEVEN PINKER | LIONEL SHRIVER
SLAVOJ LIZEK | JEREMY CORBYN
SHASHI THAROOR | CLAUDIA DE RHAM | ROGER PENROSE
JORDAN STEPHENS | NICOLA STURGEON | YANIS VAROUFAKIS
RICHARD TICE | INAYA FOLARIN 'IMAN | CARLO ROVELL
ROBERT SAPOLSKY | MYRIAM FRANÇOIS | BARBARA TVERSKY PAUL BLOOM | CATHERINE LIU | ALENKA ZUPANCIC MALCOLM RIFKIND | MICHELLE TERRY | HILARY LAWSON
ROMAN YAMPOLSKIY | JO DUNKLEY | JESSE NORMAN | AARON BASTANI
KARL FRISTON | AARON MATÉ | ALYSSA NEY | IVETTE FUENTES

    Whilst looking for an easily cut’n’pasted list for alt-text purposes, I discover it is even worse than it looks, because there are folk like Gad Saad too who don’t get an entry on the poster for whatever reason. To steal someone else’s summary, “just look at this fucking parade of grifters, scammers and out-and-out Russian assets”.

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      I opened the site for it and browsed a bit, my first thought being something like “christ, the worst of glamper festivals”, shortly after followed by “god this like is like if the worst of burning man fucked TED”

      then, bottom of the “music & performances” page:

      Europe’s answer to TED

      gnnnnnnngh

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        His claim to fame is this bs note how he eventually got too shitty that even some of the people who joined him on this disavowed him. Before his turn to zionism he dropped a lot of antisemitic dogwhistles. (Forgive me for quoting this guy but here is a (source). He also was too crazy for dr phil (source), a guy who shouts ‘ok groomer’ at lgbt people a lot, a proud manspreader (yeah, I hope you get the point he is wierd, like mega weird, but this gets weirded, he had some proud (I think now deleted) manspreader picutre you twitter with one of those sex cult women, NXIVM iirc), a sword guy. A white genocide guy, And this is only what I can recall on the top of my head. The guy is made for the ‘weird’ label, and any disavowal he makes should be reacted at like this

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        I’d also like a primer! That being said, I decided to take 1 minute of psychic DOT and looked at his profile. His Bio:

        Perennial outsider. Cancelled by both sides. Pro-America. Anti-Communist. Anti-Fascist. Based af. Liberty First! 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

        Chud shit. At best, he’s a Pinker-esque centrist (and therefore a cryptofascist). At worst, a Nazi. My bet is Nazi.

        Scrolling through some of the tweets, it’s clear that:

        • He is a Zionist, and therefore a fascist
        • He is currently in a twitter feud with Cernovich
        • He believes in some kind of “Woke Right” that will apparently destroy the GOP if left unchecked (read: un-killed)
        • Yarvin wants to adopt him

        Not a great guy, it seems!

        E: at the very surface of his tweets, he takes every opportunity to denounce fascism. What he is really opposed to is authoritarianism, or more specifically, dictatorships. Normal chud shit.

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          For more of a primer, see my reaction to op. He has been a long term far right weirdo. One of those people that if you seriously listen to them you will get dumber as a result, he has jumped on all the far right culture war bandwagons so far, he is their ‘scientific/academic social justice explainer’ and he is just full of shit. Wanted to see if some breadtuber had done a video on him (This is the only one I found before I gave up scrolling past all the rightwing bullshit, sorry it is a bit corny) but jesus christ he himself put a lot of stupid vids out there. The problem of the cost of producing bullshit vs debunking it. Did find out he is a ‘new atheist’ who found religion. So 10 for 10 on those people being shit lol.

          E: eurgh sometimes I don’t like how much I know about all these weird dorks.

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    pic of tweet reply taken from r/ArtistHate. Reminded me of Saltman’s Oppenheimer tweet. Link to original tweet

    image/tweet description

    Original tweet, by @mark_k:

    Forget “Black Mirror”, we need WHITE MIRROR

    An optimistic sci-fi show about cool technology and hot it relates to society.

    Attached to the original tweet are two images, side-to-side.

    On the left/leading side is (presumably) a real promo poster for the newest black mirror season. It is an extreme close-up of the side of a person’s face; only one eye, part of the respective eyebrow, and a section of hair are visible. Their head is tilted ninety degrees upwards, with the one visible eye glazed over in a cloudy white. Attached to their temple is a circular device with a smiling face design, tilted 45 degrees to the left. Said device is a reference to the many neural interface devices seen throughout the series. The device itself is mostly shrouded in shadow, likely indicating the dark tone for which Black Mirror is known. Below the device are three lines of text: “Plug back in”/“A Netflix Series”/“Black Mirror”

    On the right side is an LLM generated imitation of the first poster. It appears to be a woman’s 3/4 profile, looking up at 45 degrees. She is smiling, and her eyes are clear. A device is attached to her face, but not on her temple, instead it’s about halfway between her ear and the tip of her smile, roughly outside where her upper molars would be. The device is lit up and smiling, the smile aligned vertically. There are also three lines of text below the device, reading: “Stay connected”/“A Netflix Series”/“Black Mirror”

    Reply to the tweet, by @realfuzzylegend:

    I am always fascinated by how tech bros do not understand art. like at all. they don’t understand the purpose of creative expression.

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      Vacant, glassy-eyed, plastic-skinned, stamped with a smiley face… “optimistic”

      I mean, if the smiley were aligned properly, it would be a poster for a horror story about enforced happiness and mandatory beauty standards. (E.g., “Number 12 Looks Just Like You” from the famously subtle Twilight Zone.) With the smiley as it is, it’s just incompetent.

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    Inside baseball, and I don’t really have a dog in this fight, but LW is crowing over a legal loss for RationalWiki

    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/KW5tjMmTqsoRa6zrd/pablo-s-shortform?commentId=wB9jcCPrXzNCLCQXL

    They link to a TracingWoodgrain(!) tweet which is basically just a screenshot of a talk page

    https://xcancel.com/tracewoodgrains/status/1913717061626347642

    I don’t know the significance of this, if any. I don’t recognize the names of any of the plaintiffs(?) in the screenshot, so I find it a bit amusing that probably the only google juice they had were RW.

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      An lesswrong:

      countless articles that have ruined careers, stifled research, and brought entire fields of inquiry into undeserved disrepute.

      uh-huh

      An different lesswrong:

      LLMs can provide reasonable fact-checks.

      Christ on a futa dick

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        when people do stuff like dismissing x-risk because their top Google search result pointed them at RationalWiki, what exactly was the proper non-free-speech-limiting solution to this problem?

        How can we leverage the monopoly of violence of the state to promote our religious views?

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      Ah that is a bit sad, I often link to Rationalwiki as it properly documents several far right people. (no idea about the people listed here, never heard of them). And seeing people defend/use the twg article is a bit sad. But I’m not going to repeat what what I said about that bullshit here before already. Anyway, typical Rationalism rationalization bullshit.

      E: seems the problem is that RW is in a SLAPP suits allowed state and has little money. Of course the anti-RW people will use this loss to claim that RW is actually defamatory.

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      I think unrelated to the attack above, but more about prompt hack security, so while back I heard people in tech mention that the solution to all these prompt hack attacks is have a secondary LLM look at the output of the first and prevent bad output that way. Which is another LLM under the trench coat (drink!), but also doesn’t feel like it would secure a thing, it would just require more complex nested prompthacks. I wonder if somebody is just going to eventually generalize how to nest various prompt hacks and just generate a ‘prompthack for a LLM protected by N layers of security LLMs’. Just found the ‘well protect it with another AI layer’ to sound a bit naive, and I was a bit disappointed in the people saying this, who used to be more genAI skeptical (but money).

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      It bums me out with cryptocurrency/blockchain and now “AI” that people are afraid to commit to calling it bullshit. They always end with “but it could evolve and become revolutionary!” I assume from deep seated FOMO. Journalists especially need more backbone but that’s asking too much from WSJ I know

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        I think everyone has a deep-seated fear of both slander lawsuits and more importantly of being the guy who called the Internet a passing fad in 1989 or whenever it was. Which seems like a strange attitude to take on to me. Isn’t being quoted for generations some element of the point? If you make a strong claim and are correct then you might be a genius and spare people a lot of harm. If you’re wrong maybe some people miss out on an opportunity but you become a legend.

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    Not the usual topic around here, but a scream into the void no less…

    Andor season 1 was art.

    Andor season 2 is just… Bad.

    All the important people appear to have been replaced. It’s everything - music, direction, lighting, sets (why are we back to The Volume after S1 was so praised for its on-location sets?!), and the goddamn shit humor.

    Here and there, a conversation shines through from (presumably) Gilroy’s original script, everything else is a farce, and that is me being nice.

    The actors are still phenomenal.

    But almost no scene seems to have PURPOSE. This show is now just bastardizing its own AESTHETICS.

    What is curious though is that two days before release, the internet was FLOODED with glowing reviews of “one of the best seasons of television of all time”, “the darkest and most mature star wars has ever been”, “if you liked S1, you will love S2”. And now actual, post-release reviews are impossible to find.

    Over on reddit, every even mildly critical comment is buried. Seems to me like concerted bot actions tbh, a lot of the glowing comments read like LLM as well.

    Idk, maybe I’m the idiot for expecting more. But it hurts to go from a labor-of-love S1 which felt like an instruction manual for revolution, so real was what it had to say and critique, to S2 “pew pew, haha, look, we’re doing STAR WARS TM” shit that feels like Kenobi instead of Andor S1.

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    That Couple are in the news arís. surprisingly, the racist, sexist dog holds opinions that a racist, sexist dog could be expected to hold, and doesn’t think poor people should have more babies. He does want Native Americans to have more babies, though, because they’re “on the verge of extinction”, and he thinks of cultural groups and races as exhibits in a human zoo. Simone Collins sits next to her racist, sexist dog of a husband and explains how paid parental leave could lead to companies being reluctant to hire women (although her husband seems to think all women are good for us having kids).

    This gruesome twosome deserve each other: their kids don’t.

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      They targeted redditors. Redditors. (jk)

      Ok but yeah that is extraordinarily shitty.

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      In commenting, we did not disclose that an AI was used to write comments, as this would have rendered the study unfeasible.

      If you can’t do your study ethically, don’t do your study at all.

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      Ow god, the bots pretended to be stuff like SA survivors and the like. Also the whole research is invalid just because they cannot tell that the reactions they will get are not also bot generated. What is wrong with these people.

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    New thread from Dan Olson about chatbots:

    I want to interview Sam Altman so I can get his opinion on the fact that a lot of his power users are incredibly gullible, spending millions of tokens per day on “are you conscious? Would you tell me if you were? How can I trust that you’re not lying about not being conscious?”

    For the kinds of personalities that get really into Indigo Children, reality shifting, simulation theory, and the like chatbots are uncut Colombian cocaine. It’s the monkey orgasm button, and they’re just hammering it; an infinite supply of material for their apophenia to absorb.

    Chatbots are basically adding a strain of techno-animism to every already cultic woo community with an internet presence, not a Jehovah that issues scripture, but more something akin to a Kami, Saint, or Lwa to appeal to, flatter, and appease in a much more transactional way.

    Wellness, already mounting the line of the mystical like a pommel horse, is proving particularly vulnerable to seeing chatbots as an agent of secret knowledge, insisting that This One Prompt with your blood panel results will get ChatGPT to tell you the perfect diet to Fix Your Life

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    Just a standard story about a lawyer using GenAI and fucking up, but included for the nice list of services available

    https://www.loweringthebar.net/2025/04/counsel-would-you-be-surprised.html

    This is not by any means the first time ChatGPT, or Gemini, or Bard, or Copilot, or Claude, or Jasper, or Perplexity, or Steve, or Frodo, or El Braino Grande, or whatever stupid thing it is people are using, has embarrassed a lawyer by just completely making things up.

    El Braino Grande is the name of my next band GenAI startup

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      I picked up a modern Fortran book from Manning out of curiosity, and hoo boy are they even worse in terms of trend-riding. Not only can you find all the AI content you can handle, there’s a nice fat back catalog full of blockchain integration, smart-contract coding… I guess they can afford that if they expect the majority of their sales to be ebooks.