Just happened to check the modlog right after it happened. Weirded me out to see my username at the top.

Because I so rarely downvote posts, I remembered the one: https://lemmy.today/post/59636388

I downvoted it because there was no context, just a list of names. No evidence. No nothing. It looks like harassment or trying to inspire a brigade.

I’d take it up with the mod but the strange callout list without context + OP’s extended modlog makes them someone I don’t want to DM.

In case it wasn’t obvious from my post history, no I’m not a zionist and I don’t defend zionists.

I even upvoted one of their recent posts! I’m gonna go take that vote back right now.

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    I think its worth mentioning that the poster of the downvoted thread, and the mod who did the ban are the same person. Specifically banning someone to protect your own posts is abusive, malicious, and cowardly.

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      its worth mentioning that the poster of the downvoted thread, and the mod who did the ban are the same person.

      Was there ever any doubt?

      No mod ever bans people for downvoting other people’s posts. They only ban you for hurting their own personal feefees.

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    I accidentally vote with gestures all the time, this seems like a terrible way to deal with people. At least have a conversation first?

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      Yes, I accidentally vote when scrolling sometimes, especially when fur baby bumps my hand or device. I’ve probably voted in ways that would horrify me.

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        Literally

        “I think murder, torture and pedophilia are bad”

        *accidental downvote*

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      or that person could contact me and tell me it was an accidental gesture and I would unban

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        I blocked all the communities subreddits you hold power in already. If you want to be king of shit mountain then go back to shit mountain.

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        Why don’t Palestinians simply contact the IDF after their homes were bombed to explain that… Wait they’re dead, they can’t.

        You are acting like a fascist. What a stupid loser you are.

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          I’m not sure that getting banned from a PTB community on Lemmy is really comparable to genocide

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        Why are you consistently the most miserable and abrasive person on this platform? I’ve never seen even a single positive thing from you. Just hate and anger. Your username really does check out, because you’re always such a downer.

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        Because mods that autoban for stupid as fuck reasons are known to be reasonable people you can communicate with…

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        Just wanna let you know ahead of time that my downvote to this comment is intentional

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        The fact that you ban people for downvoting says everything anyone would ever need to know about what kind of person you are.

        ~My first inclination involves choosing to talk to a bear first.~

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        What kind of thinskinned loser bans someone for downvoting anyway? It’s amazing to me you survived this long, being so delicate and afraid of everything

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        Already said why I didn’t want to DM. You have quite the history.

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    Banning for a downvote?
    What I like about this group is that it shows me communities and mods I can preemptively block to avoid the displeasure of interacting with them. Thanks.

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    This is something we on Hexbear had a struggle session over a few years ago, only it was over a matter less trivial than this.

    Technically, we had 2 struggle sessions over it, one that led to getting rid of downvotes (they’re really not that useful), and one that led to an understanding of “upvotes are not steadfast endorsements”.

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      That upvotes and downvotes don’t always mean agree or disagree should be implicit, but I suppose it needs to be said out loud.

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        I just downvoted your comment.

        FAQ

        What does this mean?

        The amount of karma (points) on your comment and Lemmy account has decreased by one.

        Why did you do this?

        There are several reasons I may deem a comment to be unworthy of positive or neutral karma. These include, but are not limited to:

        • Rudeness towards other Lemmitors,

        • Spreading incorrect information,

        • Sarcasm not correctly flagged with a /s.

        Am I banned from the Lemmy?

        No - not yet. But you should refrain from making comments like this in the future. Otherwise I will be forced to issue an additional downvote, which may put your commenting and posting privileges in jeopardy.

        I don’t believe my comment deserved a downvote. Can you un-downvote it?

        Sure, mistakes happen. But only in exceedingly rare circumstances will I undo a downvote. If you would like to issue an appeal, shoot me a private message explaining what I got wrong. I tend to respond to Lemmy PMs within several minutes. Do note, however, that over 99.9% of downvote appeals are rejected, and yours is likely no exception.

        How can I prevent this from happening in the future?

        Accept the downvote and move on. But learn from this mistake: your behavior will not be tolerated on lemmy.site. I will continue to issue downvotes until you improve your conduct. Remember: Lemmy is privilege, not a right.

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    You should put the vote back, no one should get auto banned for a vote. It literally could have been a mistaken click. Say fuck those people and block them.

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      Same here, I saw this thread, checked out the post mentioned, downvoted the unsubstantiated claims, and am now waiting for my ban.

      If the mod in question happens to read this, you should learn from this, don’t just post random accusations of this nature, post evidence of your accusation, including sourcing the information you reference.

      By not doing this, you reduce the impact of not just your own use of the accusation, but also everyone else’s.

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    Not even the mighty wren is immune from the tankie triad

    Edit: Wait, it was on .world? Damn

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      Being called a zionist and/or a fascist on lemmy is basically a welcome greeting. I have genuinely never been anywhere online where there is this level of purity testing.

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        i’ve been called a liberal, zionist and a nazi in the same thread for saying platforming neo-nazis is fucked up even if they support palestine

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        I’ve checked both boxes now, plus I got called a lib in this thread. I’m three for three.

        I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted when it’s true, I’ve never been called any of these things before lemmy.

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          There should be an official lemmy bingo card for these kinds of things xD judt so we can take the piss a little bit.

          People don’t like the truth, that’s why they downvote. And same! I have literally hung out in all kinds of corners of the internet since I was a teen and I likewise have never received this level of verbal abuse as I have on lemmy.

          The brilliance of this set up is also that if you try and voice your annoyance with the way you have been treated, everybody just automatically assume that you indeed is x-label they put on you and everything you say to defend yourself is then assumed to be malicious and proof that you are in fact a bigot or a fascist or whatever.

          It is equally frustrating and amusing.

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            I’ve been tempted to make one, but I’d need to field suggestions first. Being called a fascist would probably be the free space.

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    Looks like OP has been called a fascist before and threw a fucking fit over it without ever actually engaging with the accusation: https://lemmy.today/comment/26103610

    Also OP seem to think banning for downvoting IS totally reasonable (but only when it’s them doing the banning): https://lemmy.today/comment/21073828

    Also, literally page after page of liberal-sourced news posts. Like, an astounding amount. And you 'like Reuters". Yeah, you’re not beating the lib accusations on this one, OP. The idea that you would downvote a post warning about fascists on Lemmy says pretty much all that needs to be said, though. You were scratched.

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      With all that said, the idea that you would downvote a post warning about fascists on Lemmy says pretty much all that needs to be said, though. You were scratched.

      Do you know they were fascists or did you just blindly trust some randy who made a hit list with no explanation or context?

      Because i think Wren was reasonable in downvoting such a list and was valid in her points when mrdown ended up banning her for downvoting his post. To me, that shows a poor judge of character, someone who power trips and who may or may not be fucked in the head, as is custom on lemmy.

      And believe me, I don’t always agree with Wren on things and have had pretty big disagreements with her in other threads, but her downvoting a bonkers hitlist is not reflecting poorly on her, like you seem to think it does. All your comment did was show that you don’t have critical thinking in this issue and prefer to believe something without evidence because you don’t like Wren. This is why lemmy is such a hellhole browse if you’re remotely normal and are used to people being able to disagree without having to walk on eggshells and fearing being labelled as something terrible out of nowhere. It is sp fucking ironic how those of you who screech the loudest about fascism are acting exactly like them the second you get a bit of power.

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        The only people who fear being labeled a fascist are liberals, because they’re trying to keep it a secret.

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        Thanks for that. I try to disagree respectfully but I can be stubborn as hell and I know it.

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          I don’t mind that. We also don’t have to agree on everything. 🤗 and yeah, you are one stubborn goat, but so am I, lol.

          The only time when I become genuinely annoyed and upset with lemmy as a whole is when conversation is being shut down before they can happen and people get labelled and banned without any ability to defend themselves. I have had that happen to me as well and contrary to what these commumities believe they are achieving, they only end up hurting their own causes and look pathetic and extreme in the eyes of others.

          I joined this silly place to hang out and chat and make friends, not to feel like I’m stuck in some crazy keyboard warzone where one percieved slight can make you a pariah xD

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            This is a unique space but I still love it. There’s some craziness but I have a hell of a lot more genuine conversations with strangers here than anywhere else.

            My beliefs are strongly held but loosely felt. I’ll argue to the death but I’m willing to change my mind on anything. And frankly, if I’m not butting heads over something, it means I’m in an echo chamber - and that’s much worse.

            Hope to lock horns again soon, in a com that lets people hash it out.

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      Where was I called a fascist? How am I a fascist?

      I never disagreed with banning for downvote bots and troll accounts. I’ve done it myself when I was trying to get my communities started, on the very rare occasion I found an account with tens of thousands of downvotes. I disagree with banning for one downvote.

      I post leftist media. Also rocks and art. If you have a problem with anything I post, come say so. I don’t ban people for arguing with me.

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      That first link shows an extended conversation between two users who disagreed respectfully. It doesn’t seem to say what you think it says.

      The only way the second link shows anything is if you genuinely don’t understand the idea of context. There’s a bit of a difference between responding to a single instance of something, and an established pattern of behavior.

      You’re incoherent.

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      If they saw someone consistently downvoting their posts, that’s a decent reason to ban a user.
      […]
      I banned a couple users in the early days of my communities for downvoting posts back to back, every day. I figured if they didn’t like anything I posted anyway but kept looking at it, I’d help them out with a red flag.

      So I donno, maybe you deserved it, or maybe they pay too much attention to votes and over-reacted. Probably better to block them if you don’t like their stuff.

      Hmm. That’s not… even remotely the same thing? And seems very reasonable?

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    Here zionazi jimmy90 for example

    https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=346837

    or Felis_Catus_Domesticus

    https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=22676495

    Palestinians are finally paying the price for 80 years of bad political decisions at every turn that have lead them to this point. The chickens have come home to roost. The bill has come due. Karma is a bitch. Time to pay the piper. Pick your metaphor. Eventually one’s bad decisions catch up with them… true of individuals, true for nations of people as well

    My reason was clear i did neither accused you or being a zionist and neither defending a zionists

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        Nobody care when rightfully tankies are banned for defending or trying to burrying post about russian crimes but when it comes to zionists ton of hypocrites start crying about it. Pure hypocrisy.

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          Please take this in the “try to be nice, always be kind” spirit in which it is intended: Your moderation policies are chasing off many potential allies. I’m assuming that you are putting in the thankless work of moderating that forum because you want to raise awareness and support around important issues- like genocide. If a bunch of pro Palestinian and anti Zionist people are telling you that they want nothing to do with a forum that is moderated in this manner, it is time for some reflection. When you’re stuck in mud, spinning your wheels faster doesn’t move you forward.

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          You absolute fucking child. You banned me for a downvote too lol

          I will surely miss whatever the hell your community is!

          Edit: this morning I see this coward has banned dozens for downvotes. I’m not sure if it’s more sad or more stupid to do that.

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          Buddy it’s got nothing to do with the topic and everything to do with banning someone for using one of the two basic ways of engaging with content on Lemmy.

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          You’re here because you banned someone for downvoting. It has absolutely nothing to do with the content of the post. Act like your post was completely empty. The title was just “.”. And then you banned someone for downvoting it. That’s why you’re here.

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      So explain that in the post instead of just listing names and then instantly banning anyone who doesn’t blindly accept it…

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          Nonono, if you post a list of names calling people zionists, you produce the proof then and there.

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          The burden is on you to provide evidence for your claims, at all times, especially when making a direct accusation against another person or persons. No one should ever have to ask for the evidence. Ever.

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      Sad little king of a sad little hill. This the most power you have ever had in your life isn’t it? Your big crowning achievement?