• WinterMomo@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    This doesn’t fit the narratives:

    • Honda lost their ways
    • Mazda eclipsing Toyota
    • Hyundai killing it
    • k20vtec@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Hyundai is junk garbage they literally give you the car with a lifetime drivetrain warranty

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          1 year ago

          Was not aware rattling was an issue in Hondas, I only have anecdotal evidence that’s not the case, has there been any data on this?

      • Ihate_reddit_app@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Predicted Reliability reports are just silly in general. How do you judge reliability on something that hasn’t been out long enough to even see the reliability?

        I bet you go back 5 years and look at these reports and see if they are accurate and they are probably way off.

        Kia and Hyundai make junk. At least they make some good looking junk. But the drivetrains have proven to be unreliable with constant recalls and blown engines.

    • A_1337_Canadian@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Those aren’t narratives – those viewpoints were based on factual trends.

      Honda lost their ways

      Last few years, Honda has been fluttering on the edge of top-5 – either way outside it thanks to the 1.5T problems or right at #5. This is a pretty big drop from being #1 or #2 for a long time. Again, they’re stuck at #5.

      Mazda eclipsing Toyota

      Mazda was ahead in 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022. Toyota finally climbed back in 2023 and now “2024” (this is the latest ranking).

      Hyundai killing it

      If you’ve spent time here, you’ve clearly seen the opposite of those sentiments.

      • WinterMomo@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        What’s behind the trend? Honda/Toyota’s CR ratings dipped (presumably) because of major redesigns/new releases. Mazda, barring from the I6 and SkyActivX, has been using the same 2.0, 2.5, 2.5T + 6sp for how many years? Why the drop-off in CR ratings now?

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        1 year ago

        Honda is effectively 3rd because the top 5 is basically only 3 brands. They are still one of the most reliable cars you can buy.

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        1 year ago

        They’re going back up because the 1.5T oil issues have been fixed.

        What do you think made Toyota fall off for those 5 years?

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      1 year ago

      It is known that Hyundai still isn’t super reliable. Their generous warranty is what has propelled them forward, along with their styling change.

    • Wiggity-Woop@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Only reason people rag on Honda is because of some V6 and transmission issues, which were exaggerated and overblown, along with they them not having a “dedicated” RWD sports car anymore like a S2000 as if FWD sport-ish economy cars weren’t their main enthusiast attraction since their inception.

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      1 year ago

      Hyundai is killing it in the design department… offering a great lineup of cars with good features at attractive pricing… but this doesn’t really relate to reliability.

    • mooomba@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Also subaru in #6. A lot of you guys on this sub act like they are total shit because of a problem they had 12+ years ago

    • klowny@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      If you look at the model breakdowns, Honda’s score is really really really propped up by just the HRV and non-hybrid CRV.

      I’m sure the overall score is weighted according to all responses instead of by model, but enthusiast perception is usually average across all models not weighted by model popularity, because enthusiasts usually buy the niche performance vehicles instead of the barebones cheapest model that gets the high score and heavy weighting.

      So if we did a average of average model scores:

      Toyota would have 70 instead of 76.

      Lexus would have 70 instead of 79.

      Mazda would have 69 instead of 67.

      Acura would have 62 instead of 70.

      Honda would have 60 instead of 70.

      Hyundai would still have a score of 56.

      Which matches the narrative of the subreddit pretty exactly.

    • jiggajawn@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Mazda has been solid since the Skyactive-G engines came out and separated themselves from Ford

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      1 year ago

      Everything built by Mazda has always been solid as a rock as long as it didn’t have a rotary engine. The unreliable Mazda were poisoned by Ford.

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      1 year ago

      Look at the Mazda cx90 and you will see there is tones of engine malfunction there. I know this is an all new model. But it is hurting its reliability score for sure