Summary
Donald Trump rescinded sanctions imposed by the Biden administration on Israeli settler groups and individuals accused of violence against Palestinians in the West Bank.
The sanctions, established under Executive Order 14115 in 2024, targeted those “undermining peace, security, and stability” and froze U.S. assets of sanctioned individuals.
This marks a reversal of Biden’s policy aimed at curbing settler violence and supporting a two-state solution.
Trump’s decision aligns with his previous support for Israeli settlements, which most countries consider illegal under international law.
I see a lot of neoliberal fascist democrats in this thread, seeing a lot more of them on lemmy.world now. They’ll sooner blame a “tankie” on the internet than their own beloved party who sold out to fascists. Neolibs still haven’t figured out that red/blue are just two sides of the same fascist coin, and are quick to turn on other leftists (because they’re actually right wing af)
Where are my lemmygrad Russian trolls now???
Out celebrating that they didn’t vote for Genocide™
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I’m part of the 3/4 that didn’t
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Nope PvdD now you
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Yes direct your anger at someone who voted against genocide, in a political system that allows for more variety in parties. And berate them about advising Americans to vote the least bad option.
Have you seen the Muslims for Trump on r/LeopardsAteMyFace you seem to fit in quite nicely
Pouring gas on genocides’ fires : at home and abroad. Rapist, felon and now genocider.
This will surely help peace.
So, Israel bought a bunch of his coins?
Ding ding ding.
The existence of this coin is two fold.
- wash bribe money.
- Scam the voters.
They planned all the way from Bibi’s october visit
The 53 days have started.
This is so terrifyingly close to what we see in the US… Is this an accurate representation of the historical facts? Is this really not historical manipulation to sound like what is happening today? I cannot discern truth from lies here :'(
I have my anti-confirmation-bias-bias activating strong while reading this article
edit: raising suspicion is that I could not find evidence that nazis used “draining the swamp” refering to the parliament
According to the author about page: Timothy W. Ryback is a historian and director of the Institute for Historical Justice and Reconciliation in The Hague. He is the author of several books on Hitler’s Germany
Whether it was a reference to parliament, I don’t know. Politicians often leave stuff ambiguous so they can abuse the symbolism. After all, nobody wants to live in a swamp. There’s also an overlapping period between far right Germans and Nazis. Here’s a poster that calls to get out of the swamp: “Heraus aus dem Sumpf”
I mostly posted the article because of the included facts and resemblances. Which I think is most important here.
Hitler opened the meeting by boasting that millions of Germans had welcomed his chancellorship with “jubilation,” then outlined his plans for expunging key government officials and filling their positions with loyalists. At this point he turned to his main agenda item: the empowering law that, he argued, would give him the time (four years, according to the stipulations laid out in the draft of the law) and the authority necessary to make good on his campaign promises to revive the economy, reduce unemployment, increase military spending, withdraw from international treaty obligations, purge the country of foreigners he claimed were “poisoning” the blood of the nation, and exact revenge on political opponents. “Heads will roll in the sand,” Hitler had vowed at one rally.
Sounds about right in line
The 53 days have started.
And folks are holding this up as evidence that Trump is “better” on Gaza.
Damn the similarities are uncanny…
Excellent article. Thank you!
Paywalled :(
Or in Firefox, click the Reader Mode button and then refresh (Ctrl-F5). This usually works for me on the Atlantic and many other sites.
Go into Ublock and turn off Javascript.
Thanks, I use js script on my desktop I didn’t know u block had this feature.
At least we don’t have Genocide Joe! (/s in case I actually need to write that)
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This article was literally about American politics and how it affected the Israel-Palestine situation.
Yea! We just had to teach bLueMagA a lesson at the polls this particular election cycle
Well the last elections had Bernie, so effort was spent on that option for change instead.
Funny how a decent choice of candidate can be the difference between promoting said candidate and promoting not voting at all. Almost like representation matters.
It’s analogous to sanctioning Pvt. Ivan McBlyat but leaving Putin untouched.
You fucked up, regardless of what you tell yourself now
And Lepards ate all of our faces, thanks progressives
So what’s your point?
Was this election so unimportant to the Democrats that they couldn’t pressure Israel into a ceasefire in October?
Biden had all the power for the past 15 months. Failing to deliver anything and claiming they are “working tirelessly” can only mean incompetence or deception on the part of Democrats.
Blaming Palestinian-Americsns for staying home when American bombs were killing their families is just such a weak take.
Was this election so unimportant that non-voters and 3rd party voters couldn’t be bothered to cast their vote in concert with those that would stand in the way of a dictator?
There’s FAR more at risk than a genocide. Take a look around for once.
You are talking about people who voted loyal to Democrats for decades, donated and campaigned.
The democratic party took their votes for granted and wasn’t even willing to talk to them.
You read: “At least we don’t have Genocide Joe! (Sarcasm indicated)”
You responded to: “Those damn Palestinians costing us the election! How dare they!”
Please re-read the comment. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Waffling+the+Pancakes
At least centrists didn’t have to abandon their support for genocide.
At least tankies leveraged a genocide to install their favorite orange tyrant.
Seriously, you folks suck at hiding your true intent.
Do tell, what is my true intent?
Leftists have full on embraced it.
Don’t misrepresent people’s views. If they’re wrong, you should easily be able to win the argument against even the best interpretation of their stance.
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I’m not misrepresenting anything.
If that’s so, go ahead and point to a single person here that voted blue and has provenly supported genocide.
I’m not arguing with someone who does.
The person you’re arguing with doesn’t. So apt statement.
Same shit if you’re Palestinian eh?
But hey glad to know you can live with supporting genocide abroad as long as you’re not bothered at home.
… they said while supporting more genocide
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This might come off as funny if it weren’t for the fact that “genocide Joe” is entirely fair.
After literal decades of trying to convince the Democratic establishment that being marginally better than the fascists isn’t “good enough”, I don’t personally have much tolerance for scolding voters. Maybe this election could have been won, but the eventual outcome was inevitable. Neoliberalism is woefully incapable of restraining fascism.
I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but I hate the term “Genocide Joe”:
- it doesn’t put enough fault on Netanyahu
- its an in group term, if you are in the group you know what it means, if not its either has no meaning, or is taken too literally/incorrectly.
- The middle east is a mess, we make it worse in every attempt to improve it, but some of those religiously using this phrase I don’t think want peace, just wish a different group was winning. This is a small subset of those using the phrase, but seem to be driving the political outcome by an oversized amount.
See the expression should be Netanyahu is treating the Palestinians like Hitler did the Jews. So why are we [Joe/Harris] so blindly following this.
And I know the political answer to this is Joe/Harris were trying to use there position for political pressure… I’d say it failed but they did get a last min ceasefire, so history may prove otherwise.
I have had closee friends get very mad at me for making this point.
Netanyahu is bloodthirsty. Biden is spineless. This doesn’t absolve him of his complicity, but they are distinct issues, and they should be addressed accordingly.
Nobody is confused about the fact that Netanyahu is giving the orders, but Biden kept sending cash and weapons (in violation of US law), kept participating in the coverup, and joined the chorus trying to frame anti-genocide protesters as antisemitic. I’m sure he has some stern words for Netanyahu, but that’s not pressure. Biden ought to be in prison. He’s lucky to just have a nickname.
Yeah! So we should vote in fascism! And then actively rip apart the non fascists…. That will definitely create a great new liberal party right? So what’s the plan after the fascists take over?…… there is a great next step that will make the 4d chess move of electing the fascists make sense….tight?
Okay here’s the thing: Y’all need to either found a progressive third party or coopt the Democratic party. I don’t care which, but pick one, stick to it and actually make progress on it. The current dichotomy between neoliberals and fascists was always going to end with fascists winning. It’s simple math, really; if a Democrat in charge gets you X (could be 0, but let’s face it it’s some small but positive number) steps towards fascism and a Republican in charge gets you Y (>X) steps towards fascism then no matter how you look at it your only possible end state is fascism. To steer yourselves out of the fascism course you need to switch up the values such that on average you move away from fascism every election, and that ain’t happening with the current DNC leadership in charge. I don’t have the answer on how to overthrow neoliberals (though I do have my guesses) but y’all are driving full speed ahead towards fascism land and the “let’s decelerate a bit” party won’t change that.
It has to be a takeover of the Democratic party. Third party strategies are non-starters in a first past the post election system.
I think your assessment is 100% correct.
It has to be a takeover of the Democratic party.
Who and which billionaire would do that?
While a third party would have a long way to go (possibly never) before it can run for the presidency, I seriously think it’s possible to overthrow the two main parties in at least a few states and secure a foothold in Congress, like Bernie did but on a larger scale. Let’s also not forget the impact of state and local politics. The spoiler effect definitely complicates things, but I don’t think it’s any more of a problem than the fossils running the DNC.
With many thousands of state and local elections across the country, I do agree that there have to be niche circumstances where a third party strategy works, or might even be best. Even so, I just don’t see that as something that can be built on to ever start winning at a national level.
Even in the case of Bernie, he runs on an “independent” brand, but it’s understood that he is a Democrat.
Imho this is not really 4d chess. Its boring old simple 2d chess. Hitler would not have been able to come to power in a country filled with lots of super radical lefty people. The longer you allow Nazis to “peacefully” shift the overton window to the right, the easier it will be for them to eventually grab power. The only solution to this is open political / civil war. If you keep sitting around just voting for the lesser evil, it will keep shifting to the right because the frog doesnt notice the water getting hot. Democrats have been stagnant in their political position for decades while republicans have been constantly moving further right. This was inevitable and the sooner the US gets this over with, the more likely the chances are of them not turning into a full dictatorship because there are still people left that are willing to resist.
Yeah! So we should vote in fascism!
Is that what I said? Anyone who voted for Trump did something they “shouldn’t”. Anyone who stayed home did something they shouldn’t. Israel shouldn’t have done a genocide. Biden shouldn’t have supported Israel in committing a genocide. Yeah!?
I’m just adding that Democratic voters shouldn’t have nominated Biden in 2020. Fascist victory became inevitable because of that mistake. The particulars of losing this election are almost irrelevant. If it wasn’t Trump, it would be someone else. If it wasn’t 2024, then it would be 2028.
The Democratic strategy of being marginally less shitty than Republicans is predicated on the assumption that voters will consistently make the most rational decisions in all circumstances. That was a dumb assumption and one that should die with this election. It’s not good enough to be marginally less enthusiastic about supporting a genocide.
“marginally better?” Really? Guess when you’re just that far out everything on the horizon looks similar.
I like how there was an issue and so many idiots leaned into it.
That’s just human nature. If Democrats can’t take that into account in their campaign plans, then they deserve to lose. If Democratic voters keep nominating uninspiring milquetoast neoliberals, then we deserve to lose too.
This outcome belongs to anyone who voted to nominate Biden in 2020, just as much as it belongs to anyone who didn’t show up in 2024. The first outcome was always going to lead to the second. It was totally predictable (and predicted).
Just lazy
Too lazy to assemble a complete thought so someone might know what the fuck you’re talking about?
The idea that Israel’s annexation of Gaza, the West Bank, and beyond is inevitable under any U.S. president ignores how deeply American policy shapes these outcomes. Empires do not expand in isolation because they rely on enablers to fuel their ambitions. Trump gave Israel everything it needed to push expansion forward by recognizing contested territories and legitimizing land grabs. Other administrations, while imperfect, at least made some effort to slow the process. American support through military aid, diplomatic shielding, and economic backing is not guaranteed and can shift with leadership and public pressure. History proves that empires can be stopped when expansion becomes too costly. Calling annexation inevitable is a lazy shrug at injustice, not a serious analysis of power and its limits.
Biden was a hardcore Zionist. He publicly proclaimed himself as such. He made a speech in congress, that if there was no Israel the US would need to create one, in order to further their interests. Being a violent empire that wants to ethnically cleanse and eradicate the Palestinians was always a part of Democratic policies. Any action against Israel was token at best and only enacted after significant public outcry about yet another wave of brutal Israeli crimes.
The only difference between the parties was in how fast and open it should happen. The sanctions imposed on settler groups were meaningless and laughable as the US gave guns to the Israeli government, which then handed them right to the sanctioned settler groups. They were laughable as often the settler groups are made up in part of active duty IDF soldiers and often the IDF had to report to these settler groups.
All these things are known, in particular to the US.
The reality is that the majority and leaders of the Democratic party want the annihilation of the Palestinians just as much as their counterparts in the Republicans. They just dont want their children to ask them, why they saw little children burned alive on social media and why mommy and daddy support this.
No doubt. So have most previous presidents.
The difference is the speed exactly as you mentioned, and the removal of any concerns that they need to placate global pushback. They’ll achieve in the next four years what would’ve taken them decades without a fascist at the helm.
So now that the cat is out of the box, other countries might decide to finally oppose the US and its conduct. Also now the people who claim to be progressive might realize that they have to oppose it as it is principally wrong and it cannot be seperated from the other issues, the same way the oligarchy is intrinsic to both sides of the US political theatre. Otherwise the outcome is the same for the Palestinians and the working class Americans.
The only difference between the parties was in how fast and open it should happen
The only difference? Yeah? Democrats would have overturned roe? Liberals would be deporting people en mass? Kamala would be trying to overturn birthright citizenship? Democratic leaders world be promoting a non-democratic oligarch?
Difference for Palestinians, or for that matter pretty much anyone outside the mainland US.
Cuba, Chile, Iran, Iraq, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Afghanistan, Yemen and many more suffered from the combined murderous and greedy empire politics of both the Democratic and Republican party.
Millions of people have been brutally murdered and starved by both parties just throughout the recent history of the US since WW2. The US oligarchy might prefer the Democrats or the Republicans for some time, but the oligarchy continued its murderous and destructive machinations.
The inevitable outcome I was referring to was the rise of fascism, and it became inevitable the moment we didn’t take the historic opportunity to overthrow neoliberal control of the Democratic party. That was the window to a better world, and we missed it. A Bernie presidency would never have bowed to Israel and genocide.
Window was a few months ago when you had a chance to reject it, put Don through the courts and spend the next few years thoroughly embarassing them (it’s the only thing they understand), with the republican party being destroyed.
Without that opposition, actual leftist voices could fill the vaccum.
But no now we need to do it the hard way.
There is no doing it the hard way. That’s an adolescent fantasy. The wealthy will just coop any such movement to gain even more control.
Winning has to start with massive reform of American culture, and the wealthy have just consolidated control over social media, making it even harder to reach people. The one thing we have going for us is that the US seems to finally understand that the system is broken.
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The US is hardly unique in this. Every nation has a closet full of skeletons, and there is a lot of evil happening in the world today that isn’t the fault of the US.
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But I was told buy a guy at work that the war would be over within 24 hours!
You didn’t ask how it’d end…
Perhaps he meant a different war. The Sudanese civil war perhaps? No one is talking about that.
The only real way to curb settlers violence and support a two state solution is no more weapon at all to israel and global sanctions on the israeli state itself. Something the two genocidal parties would never do
That would be nice. But one party’s voters think that Arabs deserve no quarter. The other party’s voters are somewhat split and nuanced on the issue. So if you want only zero funding for Israel, or no vote, you’re going to get the party who believes in no mercy, kill all Muslims, and annex all of Palestinian lands yesterday.
That would be nice. But one party’s voters think that Arabs deserve no quarter. The other party’s voters are somewhat split and nuanced on the issue. So if you want only zero funding for Israel you’re going to get the party who believes in no mercy, kill all Muslims, and annex all of Palestinian lands yesterday.
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Give them both the bomb. They’ll either blow themselves up, or MAD themselves into peace.
That first option doesn’t make this idea particularly tempting.
That first option is vastly superior to the status quo, in that it enables the possibility of the second option.
Do we have something better?
Wow, you just solved world peace. Congratulations!
Better than your solution of keeping supporting Israel
Point to me saying I do. Show me exactly when and where I made that statement.
Edit. Look at that, not one person is able to do it.
My comment was advocating to sanction Israel as a whole because it’s the Israeli government who is financing the settlers and even arms them and stop giving miliary aids to Israel that are used to kill Palestinians and all you did was making a dumb joke about my comment https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/04/17/west-bank-israel-responsible-rising-settler-violence
Yes. You are right on both accounts.
That in no way means I have any “solution of keeping supporting Israel”. Don’t put words in my mouth just because it’s the only issue you care about.Don’t make fun of a comment advovating for imposing real pressure on Israel if you don’t want to be accused to supporting it. It is funny how you are complaining about putting words to your mouth while you accusing me of only caring about israeli occupation of palestine and the genocide issue when there is literaly zero indication about it
Don’t make fun of a comment advovating for imposing real pressure on Israel if you don’t want to be accused to supporting it.
How to say you’re a moron without saying it…
You seem like a person of sound mind and steady judgment.
Why is that, because I’ve been accused of something I never said?
I heard Kamala’s policy is bad for Palestinian from here and also the Palestinian community in US. Happy now?
Seriously, when will you people get around to understanding that sometimes a bad choice is still better than the alternative.
For instance-
I’d rather have a head cold than cancer.
The vast majority of people who criticized Kamala online still voted for her. They knew the cost.
The problem is voters who don’t pay as close of attention, who only vote based on single issues, which we have a lot of in the USA.
I’d sure be happy if we were just starting Bernie’s second term. With third way neoliberalism still firmly in control of the Democrats, an eventual fall to fascists was inevitable. It just happened to be this election.
I voted for Bernie twice. But he couldn’t even come close to beating Hillary when she’s was handcuffed to an fbi investigation. Also, it’s hilarious you think he wouldn’t lose a second term in a similar fashion to Carter vs Reagan.
In 2016 Bernie we was running as an issue candidate. Nobody, including Bernie expected him to become a serious contender against the anointed one. He came far closer than expected, close enough for Hillary to never quit whining about it. There is also no such thing as “close” in a primary because once the media declared a winner, the remaining states all avalanche to the expected nominee.
It’s hilarious that you think Carter and Bernie are all that similar. Carter was the first of the neoliberal Democrats. He had integrity, unlike the Democrats to follow, and he was solidly non-interventionist, but that’s pretty much where the similarities end. Carter never had the popularity that Bernie has maintained for over a decade. No Democrat since FDR can match that.
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You seem well adjusted
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This marks a reversal of Biden’s policy aimed at curbing settler violence and supporting a two-state solution.
He’s gone, you don’t have to keep pandering to his fake ass policy that totally wasn’t full send arms to Israel for 15 months. Blinken clocked out as well.
Not to mention we were all here when these sanctions got announced, rescinded, and then reannounced, in case it wasn’t already clear a few settlers would likely never be traveling to the USA.
He’s gone, you don’t have to keep pandering to his fake ass policy that totally wasn’t full send arms to Israel for 15 months
At least it was something. Trump full on recognized the settlements, giving legitimacy and urging Netanyahu to escalate further. You don’t need to pretend like you havent completely fucked over every palestinian by not voting Harris.
So far Trump got a ceasefire. That is infinitely better for Palestine than anything that Biden did.
Biden got a ceasefire. The deal went through days before Trump got in. He did fuck all except win, thus creating favorable conditions for Bibi. Read a book
“Read a book” - sure, let’s read something. How about the fact that Trump’s envoy visited Gaza like 10 days before. How about the fact that Biden did fuckall for the entirety of the time about it. How about the fact that the deal is the exact same as the one that Israel rejected in November.
But sure, it was Biden (who literally called himself a zionist, who literally promised his daddy to support Israel no matter what), he just really wanted a few more months of genocide before Israel was kindly asked to cut the shit and decided to stop. And he did it on the very last few days of the presidency, just for the memes.
Do you have any arguments to show it was Biden or do you just go on what you think happened and ignore anything else? Address what I said in my post, otherwise I’ll just treat you as a weak troll. Hate Trump or not, the reality is he got a ceasefire, not Biden.
