- Johan Djourou
- Shkrodan Mustafu
- Sebastien Squillaci
- Pascal Cygan
- Phillipe Senderos
- Igors Stepanov
Mustafi can’t even get a club and he’s only 31
Djorou Squilacci Mustafi Senderos Cygan
Stepanov (don’t know him)
Actually torn between Senderos and Cygan. I believe Senderos would have matured under a different coaching unit. Like Arteta probably would have made him a serviceable CB. Always had a mistake in him. Cygan was tough. But again prone to mistakes. Never rated Djourou. Mustafi just regressed and regressed and very low intelligence guy. Squilacci was absolute disaster.
Mustafi without a doubt, dude clearly didn’t give a shit
Mustafi was a decent defender, and progressor of the ball. Probably the best defender on this list. He was on Germany’s 2014 WC wining squad.
But he always had a blunder up his sleeve. Usually in the closing minutes of the game. It was almost guaranteed, that he would miskick a ball, or completely whiff on a tackle, near the end of the game, to make up drop points.
So undoubtedly… Mustafi.
Mustafi, 100%. Zero confidence of a clean sheet with him in the starting 11.
Are you serious? Silvestre, senderos, almunia. Now those guys were fucking wildcards if there ever was any.
David luiz
Mustafi was so shit that I Gaslit myself into thinking that he could become good if given time. It’s Mustafi and it’s not even close
Silvestre ofc
That signing was the proof that Wenger wasn’t a serious coach anymore
When I see this post, first thing I thought to myself…where’s silvestre lol
Every time I saw his name on the team sheet I thought “Well that’s one goal gifted to the opposition then.”
And sure enough almost every time Silvestre would make an error that led directly to us conceding a goal.
In that era, I just can’t man. Why tf were we getting this outfit centre backs and moreover an yanited. Whyy
Because he cost 300k and the budget was stupidly low at the time.
I can just imagine how shite our academy defenders was for Wenger, a man who was great at developing and giving chances to young players, picked Silvestre over them.
When was the last time a Hale end CB made it to the first team?
It might even be Tony Adams.
Defense was always a weak point for wenger, when he arrived our back 4 was already established
Campbell was the only defender he bought in that we can all agree was world class and he was free
Messi playing 1-2-1 with Michael still bringing me nightmares
Wouldn’t that mean Messi passed back to Silvestre again.
Wouldn’t that mean Messi passed back to Silvestre again.
An elegant Maguire, if you will.
People saying Mustafi have recency bias
How? It’s literally a personal question. Which defender did YOU dread the most? People who answer different than you aren’t “wrong” they may be a newer fan or they may just legitimately have more trauma from watching mustafi lmao
Mustafi single handedly cost us CL qualification against Crystal Palace.
Have you forgotten him twerking on Aguero too?
I can stomach a player having flaws due to talent or age but being a complete idiot can’t is the worst offence possible.
Wasn’t he then voted the worst player in the Bundesliga by Bundesliga players.
The winner is Mustafi abeg.
Mustafi actually had some decent periods at least.
Problem is, everytine he had a good game in 17 and 18 he got a freaking fifa team of the weekcard.
Genuinely like Mustafi was nowhere near great by any means, but I put him alongside the likes of Holdinho as ‘alright’. I think a lot of people just take the few big errors and automatically think he was abysmal, when he was just mediocre
I think a Holding comparison is a bit of a disservice. Mustafi was one of the weird contradictions that was generally a very good defender that was confoundingly prone to errors in the premier league. Holding has been generally a consistent performer not prone to massive mental lapses but his ceiling is just not high enough and he gets bullied by better front lines.
Especially when David Luiz I feel was so much worse, he was a red waiting to happen most games
He was the player with the most consistent headers on the squad for a bit. Also lunged into too many mistakes.
Djouro and Senders as well.
I think Senderos yes, but in my memory Djourous best performances was him not being an absolute liability whereas I remember thinking Senderos actually had some solid matches.
Wasn’t Djouro quite good during the 10/11 season or possibly the one after?
Senderos did too, he started the fa cup final we won against united and also during the CL run to the final when we set a record for most consecutive clean sheets. He just had a few awful games getting bullied by Drogba in particular and his confidence completely went away.
His career arc was honestly closer to someone like Rob Holding than some of these other players who were terrible from match 1.
Drogba proper ended Senderos, just destroyed him
🔙🔛🔝
He had a great start, I remember a prominent figure on AFTV after we signed him and he looked promising. “That that is what you get when you spend some f-ing money?!”
Aged so well 😂
My problem with Mustafi is this. A lot of those others were either
- Young guys who werent really up to scratch
- Old guys who were past it
Both were in the team because of budget constraints
Mustafi…he wasnt hugely expensive, but he wasnt cheap. And he had international and big league pedigree, and was in the squad at a period where we SHOULD have done better than we were - he is essentially a part of a very underacheiving squad, and as one of the more senior players made so many unforgivable mistakes (that shit with Augero on the half way line in the FA cup final)
Mostly down to bad decision making. Knowing when to stand off and when to go into tackles. I think that’s what made mustafi
He also was seemingly a good fit for our system, most of his errors were inexplicable lapses in concentration
the rest were signed as depth, he was signed as a starter.
Cygan was 28 and had just won POTY in France the season before he joined us, hardly old and past it. He was just as bad as Mustafi if not worse - at least Mustafi could actually run.
Cygan was only 2m, and was largely a fringe player, barring a few odd games
Mustafi was our starting CB for like 5 years and played pretty much every game he wasn’t injured for
It’s really not. He’s been a part of two of the top 5 worst defences in the 21st century (Levante/Schalke)
What’s the opposite? Because I think you have that, Mustafi was a liability from day one. He had some ok performances, but all the players listed had.
Seriously. And he got more criticism than he deserved, which actually gave him more confidence issues and caused him to make more mistakes
honestly he was pretty good until he got hurt. squillaci and silvestre were…not
Mustafi had the hardest time as he was here when social media and more precisely memes became mainstream
Mustafi was so bad. When I see his face my mind jumps to all the red cards, PKs, and bad passes resulting in goals.
Only Wenger would ignore defensive stability and play these clowns.
Stepanovs
Senderos & Djourou were class for us in our run-up to the CL final in 2006 to be fair.
Squilchi by far. My dad had a djouro jersey. He loved that cunt lol. Never knew sendros was considered bad
Senderos was ok but got absolutely monstered by Drogba a few times and lost all his confidence and the faith of the crowd.
Not pictured: Rob Holding
- Justin Hoyte (sorry Justin, I know you’re a proper red!)