Russia has become the 5th biggest economy, has overtaken Germany
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.PP.CD?most_recent_value_desc=true
So this is based on a proposed 2% forecasted increase by a Russian official according to private Russian numbers.
Super legit
Aren’t you able to read? It’s for 2022 when there was a decline. This year there’s a growth.
Incorrect. This year there’s a theoretical forecasted growth by a Russian official using Russian numbers.
look at 2022 - already happened
Yes. The Russian economy went down last year, they think it will go up this year, and we’re basing that on reports from inside a propaganda-rich country that most recently regularly reports it’s winning a war it’s getting its ass kicked in.
Excuse the more practical-minded for not believing their self-indulgent economic propaganda at face value.
Many words, no single proof. You’ve just made propaganda yourself blaming Russia for it. Not?
Literally countering your propaganda.
What do you want proof of?
Are you providing proof of anything? Sounds like your quoting improbable Russian talking points.
Propaganda must be fought with proof. You haven’t provided any, but baseless, angry statements.
No proof for your words = you’re making propaganda youself.
What in the absolute propaganda fuck…
even bigger propaganda fuck than the Western one? Bigger than US one too? Noooooo, no one can’t bit them. Ever
You have nothing but whataboutism when confronted with reality.
You have nothing but whataboutism when confronted with reality.
Bullshit.
Worldbank is bullshit?
Problem #1: GDP measures nothing. Absolutely nothing. If I give you $10 today and you give me $10 tomorrow, we’ve increased the GDP by $20. It’s a useless number and no serious economist should be using it. It’s trivial to arrange a circle jerk that makes GDP shoot for the moon, and in authoritarian states it’s simple to arrange in a way that’s not even going to be spotted.
Problem #2: Self-reported numbers are worthless. That’s why China’s numbers (#1 as of 2022? Pull the other one, it plays Jingle Bells!) are highly suspect and it’s also why Russia’s numbers are highly suspect. (I mean Russia’s numbers are from the same people who say that Ukraine isn’t a charnel house that’s slaughtering Russia’s youth by the thousand monthly!)
Problem #3: This doesn’t even pass the giggle test. Boots on the ground (as in people I know who live there) in Russia say that things are going to shit there. Their aviation industry has resorted to straight-up theft to continue operations. Critical goods are starting to run low. The only people who haven’t been hit particularly badly yet are the oligarchs, and they’re starting to feel the pinch too, even.
#1) Since when not?
#2) US and Europe also self-report them. Why believe them?
#3) My boots on the ground claim precisely the opposite. And not only mine. Go - check it out and see for yourself.
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GDP is an easy number and because it can be so easily gamed it’s very popular with politicians. Press, too, are fucking lazy assholes and will just report whatever simple number they can cite instead of going into details. (We’ve known, incidentally, that GDP is useless and prone to abuse since 1937 at least. Possibly earlier, but it was in 1937 that Kuznets issued his blistering rebuke of it.) Replacing GDP with better metrics has been a constant thing since then, and even as early as the early '00s the WEF proposed a bunch of metrics to replace it. But GDP is a simple number which is easily gamed, so it’s favoured by politicians and journalists.
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The USA and Europe are far more open with their books which are independently analyzed by third parties. (Now admittedly those third parties are usually banks, so not particularly trustworthy themselves, but … read on.) Given that I’ve said from the start that it’s trivial to game, however, who says I trust their numbers? (Hint: I don’t. I just trust them slightly more than Russia’s or China’s because there’s independent review of them and the numbers’ sources are more open.)
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I’m going to guess you’re an expat living in an expat enclave and thus about as representative as, well, my life in China is to the average Chinese experience. My Russian boots on the ground, however, aren’t even in Moscow, not to mention an expat enclave. They’re in small towns and villages scattered in the western side of the Federation.
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Then you should apply the same reasoning to US and Europe and call them fucking liears. Will you?
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Give me proofs. And the same - for Russia. Then - compare them. Otherwise, you would’ve said gibberish.
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What information do you have about me to guess that? None. In other words, you’ve again made a baseless statement.
Sea lion spotted.
Where?
- What information do you have about me to guess that? None. In other words, you’ve again made a baseless statement.
Interesting that you didn’t try to contest what was said, only the way in which it was said.
Yeah, intersting, isn’t it? Perhaps I didn’t bother to?
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This says more about how poorly German leadership has run their country than it does any Russian gains
Or it says more about how professionally Russia has handled each and every issue. And how much of idiots the US and West are.
Since it is a fiction constructed for propaganda purposes, it says absolutely nothing but how gullible OP is.
Since Europe and US weatth is a fiction constructed for propaganda purposes, it says absolutely nothing but how gullible @yata@sh.itjust.works is.
