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    1 year ago

    Incorrect. This year there’s a theoretical forecasted growth by a Russian official using Russian numbers.

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        Yes. The Russian economy went down last year, they think it will go up this year, and we’re basing that on reports from inside a propaganda-rich country that most recently regularly reports it’s winning a war it’s getting its ass kicked in.

        Excuse the more practical-minded for not believing their self-indulgent economic propaganda at face value.

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          1 year ago

          Many words, no single proof. You’ve just made propaganda yourself blaming Russia for it. Not?

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            Literally countering your propaganda.

            What do you want proof of?

            Are you providing proof of anything? Sounds like your quoting improbable Russian talking points.

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              Propaganda must be fought with proof. You haven’t provided any, but baseless, angry statements.

              No proof for your words = you’re making propaganda youself.

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                  Any rational person can clearly see that you’re being angry and not arguing in good faith.

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                Baseless - I gave the example of Russia lying about how well its doing in their current war(this is proof against trusting their veracity).

                Russia had an entire shadow economy that was completely differently valued than its actually economy for over a generation while it was the USSR, and the reports of their economy they issued were fabricated for decades.

                They already fooled you once, and you’re telling everybody that Russia should be allowed to do it again.

                Angry? Nope. These are simple truths and you just don’t like them.

                You ignoring proof doesn’t mean it hasn’t been provided to you.

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                  If Russia was so weak, it would’ve already collapsed under 15k+ sactions and US with West wouldn’t have had nothing to worry about. Or they would’ve already defeated it militarily. Why haven’t they still?

                  How many times have predicted it to collapse, for the last 1.5 years? Dozens. Where’s defeat in Ukraine? 50 countries together that can’t even come close to match 1 country. Who’s winning?

                  Who then, Russia or West/US, make propaganda?