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    1 year ago

    If Russia was so weak, it would’ve already collapsed under 15k+ sactions and US with West wouldn’t have had nothing to worry about. Or they would’ve already defeated it militarily. Why haven’t they still?

    How many times have predicted it to collapse, for the last 1.5 years? Dozens. Where’s defeat in Ukraine? 50 countries together that can’t even come close to match 1 country. Who’s winning?

    Who then, Russia or West/US, make propaganda?

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      Again, I don’t know which words you need help with. You can just ask for help, you know.

      Do you mean that you don’t know about the fudged USSR shadow economy of the ussr or the current lies war going on?

      USSR shadow economy - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_economy_of_Russia

      Almost half of all the reported income of the USSR was coming from gambling, corruption and drugs, and the money was going to people at the top, not being used for what they claimed it was being used for.

      As for the war that it’s crazy you don’t know about, Russia invaded Ukraine at the beginning of last year, and have claimed all sorts of lies, like Ukrainian neo-Nazi ties with discredited evidence, that Ukraine is not a sovereign state (It is a sovereign state) and that the war was going well in the beginning and it would be wrapped up in a few weeks (spoiler alert, it’s almost 2 years later).

      Here’s a fact-based list of some lies you’re swallowing.

      https://www.international.gc.ca/world-monde/issues_development-enjeux_developpement/response_conflict-reponse_conflits/crisis-crises/ukraine-fact-fait.aspx?lang=eng

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        USSR

        We’re talking about a) 2022 and b) 2023 years. USSR doesn’t even exist. Wake up.

        You’re showing me US and CA sources. The sources of the rivals. Let alone “fact based”. Why should they be trusted when it comes to Russia? I can only see why they must be untrusted.

        By your logic, I could show your claims sources about US and CA written Russia and you would have to accept them. Right?

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          Wow, you’re a propagandist and you hate reading.

          Shocking.

          Those are reports and transcripts of first-hand Russian sources:

          “Теневая экономика в России официально оценена в 7 триллионов рублей”. NEWSru. 2011-04-01. Retrieved 2013-05-13. "Эксперт: 22

          миллиона россиян работают в “теневом” секторе". NEWSru. 2013-04-24. Retrieved 2013-05-13.

          “ЭКОНОМИКА РОССИИ - XXI ВЕК - Теневая экономика: как её считать”. Archived from the original on 2013-12-30. Retrieved 2013-05-07.

          “Теневую экономику России оценили в 46 % ВВП | Forbes.ru”. Archived from the original on 2013-05-19. Retrieved 2013-05-07.

          I know more books are going to frighten and confuse you, but it’s what you’re asking for.

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            11 months ago

            You’re mentally stuck in the world of 1990s or 2000s :) And even in the era of USSR

            You mentioned the sources of 2013. What year is now: 2013 or 2023?

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              11 months ago

              To your question of what year it is?

              I do, in fact have a response.

              2023

              You are welcome.

              How are you so unaware of the world around you?

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                11 months ago

                Where’s any trustworthy or neural source for 2022 or 2023? Show me a few. Then make claims

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                  11 months ago

                  If you:re talking about the websites I gave you, you can check them here:

                  https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

                  They are non-biased and credible sources.

                  As for the Russian sources, you said that you didn’t trust non-russian sources so I pointed out the four Russian sources I already provided.

                  You have credible, non-biased sources from inside and outside of Russia that confirm repeated Russian lies and propaganda.

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                    11 months ago
                    1. What does mediabiasfactcheck.com have to do with russian economy and my original post?

                    2. What makes it neutral and unbiased?

                    3. A website can feed you a lot of bullshit whilst pretending to be unbiased, hard-core, independent “fact checker”. It’s even easier. I’ve seen this during the little-flu c-19 virus: the “fact check” websites were the greatest source of bullshit


                    Go read some Brazilian, Indian sources, for instances, about Russian economy in 2022-2023. Or the ones from Malaysia, Indonesia. From the Middle East. Hungary, Serbia. These will be more or less neutral.

                    You can even go listen to Alexander Mercouris – he’s from the UK.