And less than 24 hours after Donald announced this “everlasting peace”, Palestinians were still being killed in Gaza, aid trucks stopped from going into Gaza and a row broke out about the failure of Hamas to return the bodies of dead Israeli hostages.

All of these grim, and sadly all too predictable factors, threaten to topple the whole ceasefire process.

Palestinian health officials reported that seven people inspecting their homes in east Gazawere killed by Israeli drones, violating the fragile ceasefire.

The Israeli military denied this, telling The Independent that the individuals had passed through a “yellow line” to which they had withdrawn. Israeli journalists, however, suggest that the military has invisible lines that Palestinians unknowingly cross.

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    DUH! That war is 80 years old. He thinks it’s been going on for only 2 years? He wants to blame 80 years of fighting on Biden. that orange bastard didn’t do anything revolutionary.

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    Why are serious journalists even calling this a cease-fire anymore? Just because Israel says it is? Even though they keep opening fire on people?

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      to get it written down that they did something ‘positive’ to try and manipulate history. that’s it… it’s lying to the future humans, or attempts at it.

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        Israel needs to force the opinion to sway their way or they would be the worst country since Hitler took over Germany. Horrible historical read if it hasn’t even been 100 years and the next Hitler is Jewish.

        Edit: Just because it’s a free run cage doesnt mean its any better.

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      You didn’t read? It was and I quote “historic” what Trump did! That’s what almost all news are saying, isn’t it?
      Like nothing was staged to look like Trump stoped an another war.
      What’s next for him, the Russia-Ukraine war? But how he will do it?

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        But how he will do it?

        Wait until Zelenskyy wins with European backing, then claim credit while shit-talking the actual participants. I mean, come on, he’s a fiddle with one string, and on that, he only knows how to play one tired tune.

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    Israel 100% knew that Hamas couldn’t return all the dead hostages that they “accidentally” killed when they indiscriminately carpet bombed everything. Where they would even store the bodies, in the non-existent non-refrigerated morgues? How they could even retrieve the dead bodies if it’s under tons of rubble and the iof kills everyone on sight?

    So now they’re playing the card “they’re not returning the dead hostages!!!11!” and then can restart the final solution genocide

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      What is astounding is how much support Israel is getting from the mainstream media right now to push their narrative.

      Media is framing it as if a few dead Israeli bodies are a valid excuse to starve 2 million Palestinians

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        The media is controlled by the same evils. Stop expecting more from them. It’s 2025 and being “astounded” by any of this shit should not be the reaction.

        It’s appalling, but it’s as predictable as the rising sun.

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    Show me a ceasefire agreement during this conflict which Israel has not immediately and blatantly disregarded?

    Israel is the biggest perpetrator of terrorism in the world. Genocidal freaks with far higher civilian kill rates than any other conflict. They aren’t going to stop this ethnic cleansing and land grab willingly, because they are demented terrorists.

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    People who know even a little bit of history, not much, just a little bit, knew this was doomed to failure. Like most of Trump’s accomplishments (triumphs?) this is more about style than substance.

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      Some people were stupid enough to think this was genuine? Netanyahu and his ilk were laying the groundwork to violate the agreement nearly immediately.

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    This was just a publicity stunt because the entire world is enraged at Netanyahu and Trumpler and they were starting to get scared. Zionists have been very clear about their “final solution” nothing has changed.

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    His peace has the same quality as all his other “products”: The tariffs that should save American workers’ jobs, his ruthless efforts to get prices for eggs down, etc, etc…

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    Anyone who didn’t see this as the pre-Nobel publicity stunt it was is an absolute nut sack of a human being.

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    Imagine being dumb enough to think some hostages being released means a much larger conflict is magically over.

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    As long as it depends on the will of Israel alone, there won’t be any safeguards against that. Only the presence of some third party, e.g. peacemaker troops from Europe, would prevent the hostilities. Just someone, anyone they would be afraid to outright bomb and, probably, one that can return fire if needed.

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      Europe which his major countries still side with the settler colonial power? Just look at the peacekeeper in lebanon they got attacked by both Israel and Hizbollah

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    Are you telling me that the turnip in chief didn’t end a forever war that’s been raging for thousands of years? Quelle surprise!

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      The Israeli/Palestinean issue isn’t even 100 years old, although your point is still valid!

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        I meant more the jewish peoples fighting the muslim peoples which to be fair is only like 1500 years old not a few thousand but I’m always a bit hyperbolic when I wake up.

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          I mean, there wasn’t a Jewish state for hundreds of years before Islam was founded, so I don’t think it is really comparable.

          Jews were alternately accepted or oppressed (up to and including torture and what we now call genocide) basically forever, basically everywhere. But the idea that Jews and Muslims have been at each other’s throats for thousands of years is not really true, IMHO.

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            Through the Middle Ages, Muslims discriminated against Jews (as they did against all non-Muslim monotheists). That meant they paid higher taxes but were exempt from military service (to really get fucked with under Muslim rule, try being polytheistic or an atheist). In that same era, Christians alternated between welcoming Jews (with various restrictions) and murdering them.

            On the other hand, there was a centuries-long series of conflicts between Christians and Muslims. That started with the collapse of the rotten edifice that was the Byzentine Empire, and continued with an extended period of Europe tring to overcome its factionalism in order to contain the Ottomans.

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              That meant they paid higher taxes

              In many western country Imigrants pays for things like education

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              The tax on non Muslims (jizyah) was in a way beneficial to creating a heterogenous environment. Anybody who tried to expel members of different faiths suffered an immediate loss of income and soon saw the err of their ways. And the more prosperous non-muslims are, the more tax they can pay, so it also gives a reason to take special care of them and help them to prosper.

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          Why are you putting muslims, arabs and palestinians in the same bag? Palestinians has nothing to do with a conflict between muslims and jews a thousand years ago . There was always conflicts between groups of people living close to each other. Also why don’t you mention the periods where there was no conflicts between muslims, christians and jews? Or something like the arab countries siding with the allies against Nazi germany?