I don’t know how exploding consoles didn’t make the list, but they would be a distant second to Rick Berman.
Apparently the knowledge of fuses was lost during the Eugenics Wars.
They don’t run on electricity, they run on plasma for some reason. Meant to replicate what happens on ships with steam in the pipes. But still, weird that they do that lol
I came here to say this. I get that they use fucking plasma in their electrical systems, but you’d think some step-down transformers and circuit breakers could be installed. And why the hell do the defense systems feed back into the main power grid? Why isn’t there a capacitor bank to dump feedback into for reuse in the weapons or something?
I saw someone say a good reason for the consoles exploding all the time is that they wouldn’t have I clouded breakers, because, in a red alert situation, the console staying on and responsive is more important than it not exploding
Pretty sure the real reason is because it looks spectacular on TV.
Definitely, but I’ll take the other explanation because it’s more fun
Ye, another vote for exploding console rocks!
Yeah. If they’re gonna explode, they should at least not be filled with rocks, for goodness sake.
Trick question. It’s polarity.
It’s not JJ Abrams?
Pretty sure that’s the lens flares.
I feel like that’s letting JJ off the hook
We can’t have that after what he did to both franchises can we? Maybe we can find out what he drives and hide a large dead fish in his hub cap? It’s about to be warmer weather in Hollywood and all!
I’ve always thought this take was unimaginably short sighted and just… Dumb.
I liked the sequels (generally) but see why people don’t like them. See why people say that they ruined Star Wars. Again, I don’t agree but I see the point. It was a continuation of the story and did whatever.
JJ made an alternate universe for Trek though. Literally the only bits of canon he added to Trek was that the Romulan star went Supernova and Spock prime was flung into the alt timeline in an attempt to help save the Romulans. That’s it.
People keep saying JJ ruined Trek but the dude did literally nothing other than make an alternate universe. Trek was still untouched. Spocks attempt to save Romulus is even super in line with Spocks character after Unification II as well.
JJ may have “ruined” Star Wars but the only thing he did to Trek was make a couple movies people didn’t like (that can be COMPLETELY ignored) and reinvigorate life back into a franchise that had been shelved.
I kinda like the Trek movies. The Star Wars stuff not so much tho.
I say we get cinematic and go with a horse’s head in his bed
What a great scene! You have impeccable taste in film!
Lucas, Spielberg, and Coppola were all boys in the 70s and 80s. I thought it’d be appropriate to use something from Francis’s film considering what JJ did to George’s baby and stealing and bastardizing Steven’s style
It’s always warm in Hollywood.
It’s best villain. Not most evil.
What if everything in the Star Trek universe was just one grand holodeck simulation and everything we’ve seen them go through in all the shows, all the movies, all the animations and all the books were just a runaway holodeck program that some junior officer made.
And it turns out the actual Star Trek universe is a lonely empty experience as their ships go wandering around nearby star systems and haven’t met any other species yet. It’s just a boring repetitive experience that leaves everyone feeling a deep sense of Galactic loneliness as it will take them many centuries of exploration before they eventually meet another species … and also a species that is not humanoid or familiar to us at all.
“From you Dante”
Oh, right!
Ah, so “realistic” space travel, where 100 years later, they’re still on their way to the first Star system and the most critical technology is how to pass the time
Inhales
Ok…wait, hear me out
Exhales
what if that’s how Discovery ends?
It wouldn’t be the worst story-ending on the show…
We’re still not sure if all of DS9 is in the shattered mind of an insane 1940’s writer or not.
I needed more existential dread so thanks for this. <3
Existential dread? … they are my favourite scifi thought experiments
Imagine being the first to travel far away from our star system to the point where you can no longer see our home sun … hopefully you are able to navigate back to our home star system. Hopefully the science and technology is accurate enough to return you home. Otherwise if anything is off by even a small amount, you’ll either become helplessly lost, or run out of fuel to make the return journey.
Time travelling? … any time you jump in time, it is either extremely complicated or more likely impossible to navigate back to an accurate reference point in the universe. You can go back six months in time but you’ll never be able to pinpoint where in the universe you will end up because the earth is moving through space, the solar system is moving and so is the galaxy constantly through time … so time travellers may be floating around in random space everywhere because they could never figure out where they would end up.
What if… Hear me out on this. What if the whole Star Trek Universe is actually a TV show made out of wishful thinking before any real space exploration beyond our solar system takes place?
Q is not a villain!
I always thought of him as a bored god annoying one specific creation. Like the book of job but sci-fi!
It’s not just one creation though. He wiped out Guinan’s people. He tortures other species for fun. He’s pretty hostile towards a lot of species. I guess they failed their trial. Picard must be one of the only defendants who won his case, and that’s why Q helps humanity, while dooming other races.
Weren’t Guinans people wiped out by the Borg?
They were.
They also make it very clear that if Q did anything remotely on the lines of wiping out an species, that he wouldn’t be there anymore to bother humans. And that she did know Q from around the time the Borg shows up.
Star Trek is not really consistent. But if there’s a backstory there, my guess would be that he watched and did nothing while bothering them all the time.
It has been a while since I’ve watched it, but I remember them being wiped out by Q, which is why she’s so hostile towards him.
I’ve thought more of a reality foil.
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What is “this motherfucker”?
That’s the barrel that paralyzed Worf
Lmao, oh, ok
Lol, I thought it was just a background with logo, that it represented Starfleet as the villain.
Also confused. Star Trek branded 55gal drum of lube?
Edit: for posterity, the blue barrel reminded me of an older meme around an Amazon listing for a 55gal drum of lube that was also just a generic blue barrel
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Yes that is what it was
Kai Winn with Gul dukat in a super close second.
“My child” came out of Rick Bermans mind before it came out Kai Winns mouth.
Far from his only sin in trek, and not his worst, but it is enough. The source of evil is clear.
Objection: Q is a hero, not a villain.
Q is chaotic neutral.
He’s a good-making troll.
He’s neither chaotic nor neutral.
the people writing the scripts for the show. they can stop all evil in the show, but they choose to create it instead. without them, all evil in the show wouldn’t exist. so they are the real evil mastermind behind it all!
What if God was one of us?
Just a slob like one of us.
(I hope you’re thinking of the same parody I am)
🎵 Drives a tie-dye microbus, and He subscribes to Rolling Stone 🎵
He would have created a much better world, for starters. All he would need to do was go to the hospital once and see what thousands of people are getting charged for a Tylenol and an overnight stay.
I am convinced that if there is a god, it’s mostly evil and it gives zero fucks.
Perhaps it’s more like the creator race from The Chase. Able to seed life all around the galaxy but they can’t know what becomes of them nor could they influence it really.
For context, I mean these guys:
Those dickheads!
They basically took handfulls of crabgrass seeds, tossed them into a ton of random people’s yards and thought they were doing a good service for the neighborhood.
I was basically saying the writers are God
Oh. Sorry. I guess it’s a song, too.
That it is!
spoiler for a Scalzi book
That’s literally the plot of Redshirts by John Scalzi
Yes! Exactly. It’s a great book btw
Q isn’t a villain.
The worst villain is most certainly Paramount and the writers on the new shows.
Depending on our definition of best, I’m going to vote Worf’s parenting, clearly the most devastating.
Once again, poor Jeremy Aster was forgotten about. lol Alexander isn’t the only kid Worf abandoned.
Jeremy who?
(This is both a joke and a genuine question)
He was a kid on the Enterprise whose lieutenant mom was killed on an away mission and orphaned. Worf basically adopted him via some Klingon “Big Brother Program” ritual. The kid was never mentioned again. lol
Berman is the worst lol
Gul Dukat, no question.
He’s one of the best villains in all of media.
Oh, my child…
Why doesn’t species 8472 get villain love?
I wouldn’t call them a villain, personally. They were a species trying to slap the Borg back home and became aware of our space. They saw us working with the Borg and started to prep for an invasion of Earth. But after diplomatic relations with Starfleet they realize that Earth may pose some threat but had ZERO interest in starting a war with any species, much less a species they’d never even heard of before.
Borg for me.
I wonder if there’s any psychology behind responses to this question… While I genuinely love the idea of becoming a cyborg, the thought of becoming part of a collective that thinks as one is kinda horrifying to me as someone who works in a creative field.
Who did the Borg assimilate before they met the humans? Every Borg looks like an assimilated human.
Every sentient species looks like a human into body modification.
And yeah, there is a storyline about all sentient species being related.
It’s something that really winds me up about scifi shows, and I know there are always budget restrictions… but it just feels really lazy to me, for aliens to be simply humans with plasticine on their foreheads.
I’m reading one of Iain M. Banks’ ‘Culture’ series of hard scifi books, the depth and variety of not just alien species but ‘post-human’ modification is breathtaking. ‘The Culture’ is a far-flung hyper-technological society, no money, all wants and needs provided for, there are no drugs because everyone has their own drug gland. If you decide you want to try changing sex, off you go, the nanosuite will take care of it within a matter of days. Sick of being a humaniform? No problem, now you’re the bush-like bundle of tendrils of your dreams. Bored with being a bush? Maybe you want to download your consciousness into a drone, or the solar sail drive of a starship? Again, no problemo!
Hyperion explored that a bit. An incredibly wealthy character in the book makes himself into a Satyr. We are Legion (We are Bob) also has some really fun stuff with android host machines. The Bobs can be anything they want to be. The movie Arrival did an amazing job depicting non-humanoid aliens. But yes, most sci-fi is very lazy with the aliens.
For some reason, I only got the alert for your reply today!
I adore the Hyperion Cantos, it’s one of my favourite scifi book series ever, and I hope one day it gets the TV treatment it deserves. Always felt it would make an amazing show.
Yeah man, some of the coolest concepts I’ve ever read were in that series. The crusader’s ship that fucking demolishes their bodies from hyper acceleration and then rebuilds them during flight, all without their knowledge, was wild! My biggest fear about it being a series is that idk if there’s a way to create the Shrike in a live action recreation without making it look cheesy. The Shrike definitely benefits from the fogginess in the theater of the mind.
Yeah they’d have to do a LOT of R&D to make sure the Shrike looks suitably terrifying. The speed of it wouldn’t be a problem, they could get all the people who worked on The Flash!
I’ve been pleasantly surprised with TV versions of late. I didn’t watch Foundation until S02 dropped, I just saw no way they could do a show set over aeons. They’ve taken a lot of artistic license and I’ve heard from many who loved the books saying they’re unhappy with that, but I really enjoyed it. Three Body Problem season one was also fantastic, so fingers crossed that gets a second season (apparently it was very expensive to make so S01 may be all we get unfortunately).
