Tensions between India and Pakistan have escalated further after a top Pakistani official claimed early Wednesday to have “credible intelligence” that New Delhi will carry out a military action against Islamabad within the next two days.

  • BenjiRenji@feddit.org
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    18 days ago

    Isn’t this just India posturing because of the Kashmir attack? The first threat about cutting off water was an empty one so now they are floating some military strike just to appear thst they care? I may eat my words here, but neither party is going to risk a full on war with an enemy with nukes over a place like Kashmir.

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      18 days ago

      They been doing it for decades, India and Pakistan have been at odds for a very long time. One of the reasons why Indian don’t trounce Pakistan, is nukes, which China has helped build during the Cold war. It’s most 3 way conflict in a sense. Kashmir, and the northern part of India which china claims and vice versa.

    • Agent641@lemmy.world
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      18 days ago

      Stop reading the news.

      If it happens it happens. When you see the flash, lay down prone on the ground with your head towards the detonation and your hands covering your face.

      • AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf
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        18 days ago

        I just skim stories and catch a general idea of what’s going on for this reason.

        ‘Is this something I can actionably do something about? No? Then don’t worry about it.’

        • LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee
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          18 days ago

          Organizing locally to resist ICE and protect your neighbors from being black bagged is ABSOLUTELY something you can do right now.

          This is assuming you are in America. PSL and DSA come to mind as organization in my area. In your area it might be a random anarchist group.

          You don’t need to agree with all their political ideas. But right now it’s the socialist, communist, and anarchist organizing to resist these fascist.

  • Liam Mayfair@lemmy.sdf.org
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    19 days ago

    ITT people claiming this could be a WW3 starter. Even if India engaged Pakistan militarily, I fail to see how that would lead to anything larger than a localised conflict.

    Like, neither country is geopolitically significant enough for any major players to care at that level. Sure, India getting bogged down in war could affect supply chains around the world, but would any of the heavyweights like US, China, Russia or a semi-relevant NATO country think that would be worth their involvement? If Russia being on year 11 of their military invasion of a NATO-bordering country hasn’t sparked a world war yet, I don’t see how this would either.

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        18 days ago

        They’ve had these border skirmishes and terrorist attacks about every 2-3 years for the last 50 years without resorting to nukes.

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      18 days ago

      Since when is India not a major player? Last I checked they were the world’s 4th biggest economy, have almost 20% of the population of the planet (more than four USes combined), 4th largest military spend and have nearly 200 nukes.

      Not to say that it would be part of a world war but it sounds weird to say that they’re not a heavyweight but Russia is, despite having double Russia’s economic output.

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      19 days ago

      Agree with everything you’ve said. They only thing is China has been contesting a North Western border with India for some time so they might take the opportunity for some shenanigans.

      Still don’t see it escalating beyond regional though as you said.

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        19 days ago

        On one hand I think you’re right but on the other, if they’re correct, I’d say they want India to know they’re in their systems or have spies.

        That kind of an opsec failure is going to be disconcerting at a minimum.

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          19 days ago

          Well, if Pakistan got it right this might just be disconcerting enough for India to abort this planned attack . Even if Pakistan didn’t get it right or are maybe even bluffing it might create an international reaction that could cause India pause before any future attacks.

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    19 days ago

    Always telling whenever terrorists attack non-white people and nobody seems to care or even notice.

    It’s like I have to find out on my own on a gore site that an attack even happened at all.

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      19 days ago

      Wtf are you on about, it was all over the Internet.

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        19 days ago

        Really? I found out about it by seeing videos on Kaotic, then when I checked youtube to see what’s up all of the reports had <1M views days after airing.

        Doesn’t really sound like “all over the internet to me,” but you seem like someone who doesn’t have a grasp on how massive the internet has become.

        • Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          18 days ago

          What type of response do you hope to elicit by discounting everyone’s experience but your own and insulting the intelligence of those who engage with you?

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          19 days ago

          It’s probably the Internet bubble thing, I saw news about it and the development of things afterwards, I’m hoping a war doesn’t break out but there is jack shit we can do about it.

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    19 days ago

    I only learned about hostilities between the two countries after about 28-30 years on the planet (thanks, US edumacation system) and I still don’t think I understand why they don’t get along…

    To any who are stuck in their countries as their governments choose the stupidest possible actions, you have my sympathies, and I wish you well in the coming days.

    • NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip
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      19 days ago

      Pakistan was created by Indian separatists (I’m oversimplifying, but that’s the crux). They’re divided by religious groups (e.g. Pakistan is majority Muslim, while India is mostly Hindu (~80%).

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      19 days ago

      Border disputes (mainly Kashmir) worsened by the friction between a Muslim-majority Pakistan and a Hindu-majority India when both are led by increasingly nationalist governments, basically.

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        19 days ago

        Ah yes, “my god(s) that I made up is better than your god(s) that you made up”

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          Hate to break it to you buddy, but the more you study religion, the more you’ll realize that they’re fighting to bring their gods to life and shape the world as they see fit.

          That’s how they could convince people to go to war over their religion. There would be no need for war if one side believed in the ‘right’ god, because all the other sides would be punished by that god. But the religious interpretation of ‘god’ means that the outcome of the war will determine which god is ‘right.’

          Gods being as real as we make them is a feature, not a bug.

    • RunawayFixer@lemmy.world
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      17 days ago

      My impression of the conflict: The partition of British India into independent India and independent Pakistan was very violent and traumatizing for lots of people, and also left some unsolved border disputes. The independence of Bangladesh from Pakistan was likewise very violent and saw India helping the Bangladeshi people gain independence. Both events are long enough in the past that people could have gotten over the hate by now, except that it gets refreshed with new violence every few years. In the last few decades there’s been several terror attacks in India that were sponsored by the Pakistani state. But now India too has a religious fundamentalist government, so maybe they’ll be trying to return the favor. Authoritarians love creating external enemies, it helps them stay in control of their own population.

    • Fat Tony@lemm.ee
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      19 days ago

      Before we all die in WW3 I’d just like to say: It’s “Oh for fuck’s sake.”

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          18 days ago

          Since the sake belongs to the fuck, the possessive apostrophe is appropriate. It’s not a contraction.

          • silasmariner@programming.dev
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            17 days ago

            Actually this is a common misconception. Fucks sake is a rice wine from the Fucks region of Giveashit. Nothing to do with Sir Reginald Fuck despite appearances