Tensions between India and Pakistan have escalated further after a top Pakistani official claimed early Wednesday to have “credible intelligence” that New Delhi will carry out a military action against Islamabad within the next two days.

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      Stop reading the news.

      If it happens it happens. When you see the flash, lay down prone on the ground with your head towards the detonation and your hands covering your face.

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        I just skim stories and catch a general idea of what’s going on for this reason.

        ‘Is this something I can actionably do something about? No? Then don’t worry about it.’

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          Organizing locally to resist ICE and protect your neighbors from being black bagged is ABSOLUTELY something you can do right now.

          This is assuming you are in America. PSL and DSA come to mind as organization in my area. In your area it might be a random anarchist group.

          You don’t need to agree with all their political ideas. But right now it’s the socialist, communist, and anarchist organizing to resist these fascist.

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    The British did a ‘divide and rule’. Religion was the tool used to do the division 75 years ago at the time of separation. Religion is the same tool used today to divide the country internally and manufacture hate and consent for war.

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      Anti British empire people:

      The Brits are horrible! Look how they divided the world in countries with straight line borders without care about the local population’s culture!

      Also anti British empire people:

      The Brits are horrible! They made 2 separated countries due to their culture being different!

      You can’t blame the British on this. Countries are supposed to be groups of people that are geographically connected and have similar cultures. Religion is a big part of culture.

      Of course leaving I think leaving Kashmir to decide their own fate was a mistake. In retrospect, they probably should have divided them in 2 and give part to Pakistan and part to india. Or alternatively force them to become a separate state with a constitution that doesn’t rule out the idea of separating in 2, and each part could decide independence or join their culturally-similar country.

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      The “everything is fault of the British” is such a cop out. India and the region had no trouble dividing themselves very publicly with caste systems, no?

      People just need education.

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        The British popularized the phrase, which gives away the playbook. The rich and powerful use this playbook time and again to divide the masses. Education should help, but siloed propaganda is really effective to counter even education because propaganda uses fear & hate to bring out the animal in you, and when you’re angry and scared you forget all reason and all education.

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          This playbook existed way before Britain did. Even in ancient India.

          We know for a fact that one things works against all of these playbooks - education.

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            Just to be technically correct, very little evidence suggests caste system was abused in ancient India, that maybe because figuring out ancient India is hard due to lack of archeological evidence. But most of the horrible abuses of caste system are documented around 900AD and later.

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    Isn’t this just India posturing because of the Kashmir attack? The first threat about cutting off water was an empty one so now they are floating some military strike just to appear thst they care? I may eat my words here, but neither party is going to risk a full on war with an enemy with nukes over a place like Kashmir.

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    Always telling whenever terrorists attack non-white people and nobody seems to care or even notice.

    It’s like I have to find out on my own on a gore site that an attack even happened at all.

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      Wtf are you on about, it was all over the Internet.

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        Really? I found out about it by seeing videos on Kaotic, then when I checked youtube to see what’s up all of the reports had <1M views days after airing.

        Doesn’t really sound like “all over the internet to me,” but you seem like someone who doesn’t have a grasp on how massive the internet has become.

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          What type of response do you hope to elicit by discounting everyone’s experience but your own and insulting the intelligence of those who engage with you?

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          It’s probably the Internet bubble thing, I saw news about it and the development of things afterwards, I’m hoping a war doesn’t break out but there is jack shit we can do about it.

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    ITT people claiming this could be a WW3 starter. Even if India engaged Pakistan militarily, I fail to see how that would lead to anything larger than a localised conflict.

    Like, neither country is geopolitically significant enough for any major players to care at that level. Sure, India getting bogged down in war could affect supply chains around the world, but would any of the heavyweights like US, China, Russia or a semi-relevant NATO country think that would be worth their involvement? If Russia being on year 11 of their military invasion of a NATO-bordering country hasn’t sparked a world war yet, I don’t see how this would either.

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      Agree with everything you’ve said. They only thing is China has been contesting a North Western border with India for some time so they might take the opportunity for some shenanigans.

      Still don’t see it escalating beyond regional though as you said.

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        They’ve had these border skirmishes and terrorist attacks about every 2-3 years for the last 50 years without resorting to nukes.

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      Since when is India not a major player? Last I checked they were the world’s 4th biggest economy, have almost 20% of the population of the planet (more than four USes combined), 4th largest military spend and have nearly 200 nukes.

      Not to say that it would be part of a world war but it sounds weird to say that they’re not a heavyweight but Russia is, despite having double Russia’s economic output.

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      They been doing it for decades, India and Pakistan have been at odds for a very long time. One of the reasons why Indian don’t trounce Pakistan, is nukes, which China has helped build during the Cold war. It’s most 3 way conflict in a sense. Kashmir, and the northern part of India which china claims and vice versa.

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      Before we all die in WW3 I’d just like to say: It’s “Oh for fuck’s sake.”

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          Since the sake belongs to the fuck, the possessive apostrophe is appropriate. It’s not a contraction.

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            Actually this is a common misconception. Fucks sake is a rice wine from the Fucks region of Giveashit. Nothing to do with Sir Reginald Fuck despite appearances

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        On one hand I think you’re right but on the other, if they’re correct, I’d say they want India to know they’re in their systems or have spies.

        That kind of an opsec failure is going to be disconcerting at a minimum.

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          Well, if Pakistan got it right this might just be disconcerting enough for India to abort this planned attack . Even if Pakistan didn’t get it right or are maybe even bluffing it might create an international reaction that could cause India pause before any future attacks.