• TragicNotCute@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    I’ve heard you can apparently buy a house with 10 silver coins, the original deed, 2 witnesses present and 2 secretaries present is this true?

    Yes, this is true. Provided the seller is a dumb dumb who will accept 10 silver coins (~$400 USD) for a house while 4 of their friends watch in awe.

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      It’s likely worse than that, even. “Silver coins” in sovcit often mean silver in color, i.e. quarters.

      Dude wants a house for $2.50.

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        There are silver content quarters, pre 1964 I think? These are the ones they use, or attempt to use because it’s all bullshit anyway.

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      I thought you were mathing wrong since I’ve rarely seen it above $25 (not that I’ve checked in a loooong time) so I looked up the current spot price. Damn, nearly at $40US/ozt.

      … I should sell some of these silver coins I inherited.

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      Only if those are coins of a full ounce of silver, even. Nothing is specified so they might as well be dimes instead.

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        I was gonna give this fake seller the benefit of the doubt. Surely he’d request American Eagles at least.

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    10 days ago

    already hired a common law attorney but looking to hire more attorneys

    need advice asap pronto

    Looks like you already know what you need to do brother.

    Hire even moar attorneys

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        They think that if you don’t use the word “driving”, then you don’t need a driver’s license. I assume desperately trying not to use the word car is some kind of mush brain attempt to not admit it is a vehicle.

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        I guess when you’re living in your van down by a river.

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    It’ll have to be pretty huge coins as you’ll need approximately 15K ounces of silver to buy the average house in the USA.

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    Is a common law attorney someone who legally becomes your lawyer after you’ve lived with them for a certain amount of time

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      Everyone thinks that’s how it works, but you have to call them your lawyer, and they have to call you their client. You both have to behave like you’re in that level of relationship. It’s not automatic or forced just because you live together and have sex.

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      I assume you know and are joking, but in case you (or someone else) doesn’t know - sovcits commonly argue that courts have to operate under Common Law or Admiralty Law. They frequently try to get cases thrown out because that’s not a thing so courts obviously refuse to call themselves either.

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    I kinda feel bad for this person. They’re either incompetent or delusional to the point that they basically have a disability.

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      I’ve got to be honest, I might feel bad for them if SovCits weren’t such massive pricks, but being a stupid piece of shit isn’t equivalent to insanity to me.

      Your Aunt is a lizard person? Insane. You think that you can increase your personal power and spiritual essence by consuming other living beings (insect-to-human cannibalism pipeline; I’m not joking this has been observed, codified and studied) to absorb their souls? Insane. Think that random family members, strangers and people on the TV are threatening you or compelling you to murder? Insane. Thinking that you don’t have to pay taxes, obtain or use a driver’s license for driving vehicles, etc. because you’re not a legal scholar or even lawyer, and base your whackadoodle dumb-fuck interpretations of antiquated legal statutes sourced from Youtubers & Facebook posts? Not insane - You deserve what’s coming to you, not because you’re a ‘bad person’, but because you’re too stupid to function in society and too arrogant to listen to anyone contradicting you for your own benefit.

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        This is like those people who argue about whether or not supernatural beliefs are insanity. You can be sane and believe all kinds of crazy shit as long as there’s a community of people who also believes in that crazy shit.

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          Bingo. If I’m not mistaken, it has as much to do with perceived social good as much as the size of the community supporting it. Established religions often have considerable resources at their disposal which they can put to use defending the legal rights of their adherents (or establish, depending on the point in the timeline). Small, siloed conspiracy communities don’t have that same centralized organization to coordinate efforts, let alone the financial means to challenge a country’s legal system in the larger sense.

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      I don’t. I know people like this. They’re stupid, stubborn, selfish, lazy, egomaniacal jerks.

      Just the worst Karens ever.

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      I don’t.

      IRS sending in letters about 21 years of scam back taxes I apparently owe them

      Taxes are supposed to exist as a way to provide upkeep for infrastructure, government services, and social safety nets. Refusing to pay them while also still benefitting from tax-funded infrastructure and services is just being a parasite on society.

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    Hocus-pocus, your foreclosure is now a bouquet of flowers and magical silver coins each worth 1/10th of literally any house.

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    I don’t hate the idea of buying a house in hard metals with witnesses, instead of wasting money on a lawyer. But surely this person isn’t so dumb as to think the price wouldn’t be set by the seller, rather than legal nonsense.

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      It does read like they think they can invoke some sort of ancient law that says if they can obtain a copy of the title deed (by fair means or foul), find ten silver coins, and get four friends to show up, they can just kick someone out of their own home and they own it now.

      If that reading is correct, then I don’t know what’s worse, that they’re dumb enough to believe it, or that they’re a horrible enough person that they’d actually go ahead and do that to someone.

      • LousyCornMuffins@lemmy.world
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        It’s a ritual spell, it takes five casters, and it consumes the silver thnickels. Most wizards get it at level 8, but if you take ritual casting or specialize in houseromancy you can get it as early as level 4.

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        I think they might be stupid enough to believe that the value of the house is less silver than was given to sell out a certain heretical carpenter. And that’s the kindest reading I can give it.

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      Legal nonsense is exactly what they believe in, that’s why they say “conveyance” instead of “car”.

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        Sadly no, but my first encounter with one who’s this far down the rabbit hole. Usually it’s just creative tax dodges and exploitation of every loophole that I run into - stuff like creating a 501 nonprofit corporation to buy a thing, voting yourself off the board, and declaring bankruptcy (I forget which chapter at the moment), so that basically the creditors get told (legally) to go jump in a lake.

        It’s madness, but it’s plausible. And it has worked at least once. That’s the level I usually see them at.

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          That has less of a sovcit texture and more of a sane, but dishonest and scummy person trying to get something for nothing.

          Sovereign Citizens are a special genus where beliefs tend to among other things fixate on a separation of a paper and “real” person, common citation of common law, common incorrect citation of Federal law in state matters, and fixation on treating all legal interactions as if they were contractual exchanges.

          I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything that’s normally considered sovcit nonsense win in a court. Very occasionally the sovcit wins in spite of themselves, but the actual arguments didn’t help.

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            Well, in a certain sideways sense, every legal interaction kinda is a matter of contract. The problem is that you don’t get the right to choose whether you’re a signatory or not, and the other party has the right to amend or update the contract at any time they choose. The problem is, unless you’re a signatory to at least one of those contracts (by birth or by immigration), you have no rights at all. Once you’re in, you really can’t get out safely.

            Basically your birth certificate is the checkbox on the EULA of lawdul society. Good Lord, I hate that I just thought of it that way, but it works so well as an analogy.

    • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.worldOPM
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      It was fun at the beginning a little bit. Nice to reconnect with people you went to high school with that you did like, etc. But fake news and conservatives ruined it all, as well as spam and bots and Nazis.

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      All of us on facebook when it was college only knew it was a mistake to make it public.

      It was amazing to meet people in my dorm before school started.

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        Yup. In 2005 I used it to find parties and even get laid a few times. By 2008 my aunt was sending me friend requests and I was done.