• DominusOfMegadeus@sh.itjust.works
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      10 months ago

      I’ve been trying to convince my parents that this is absofuckinglutely genocide. It has not gone well. They are convinced that Israel is simply defending themselves, and all the civilian casualties are just how war is.

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        You could make the comparison with Russia’s actions towards Ukraine. Is it “just war” when Russia intentionally bombs children’s schools and hospitals? Most countries are civilized enough to only target military targets during a war. It’s also worth pointing out that modern missiles do not “accidentally” hit the wrong target, that’s about as likely as shooting a gun and “accidentally” hitting your friend standing behind you.

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    10 months ago

    But Ukraine can’t even get enough AGTMs and shells. God forbid mentioning atacms, almost two fucking years!

    I can’t believe that Netanjahu is more trustworthy than Zaluzhny.

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        10 months ago

        Before we proceed to discuss this valuable political point, what is your opinion on JWBush’s 1990 speech in Verkhovna Rada? Or you are of that bunch who thought oatmeal cookies on Maidan in 2014 were how these ammies bought Ukraine’s independence?

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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          I’m of the opinion that US wanted political capture of as much of former USSR as it could get ever since USSR dissolved, and has succeeded in creating vassal states out of most former Soviet republics. Ukraine tried to maintain its neutrality between the west and Russia and largely succeeded until US ran a violent coup in 2014, at which point the legitimate elected government was overthrown.

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                Last time I checked, the birthplace of parents doesn’t qualify you for any domain specific knowledge.

                Just as you don’t know a thing about the chicken Kiev speech, you lack any deep, actual knowledge of what life in Ukraine is. Or rather was before 2013.

                And yeah, the whole quora post you link to is laughable - how much things does it get wrong.

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                  You’re right, it’s the time I’ve spent learning about the subject that qualifies me to speak on the subject and how I know you’re full of shit.

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      I can’t believe that Netanjahu is more trustworthy than Zaluzhny.[sic]

      Can you touch on this a little further please? I’m not sure I follow.

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        There was a lot of back and forth over the last two years whether UAF can be trusted. Either about applying the weapons as agreed (ie not using atacms against muscovite mainland), or with regards to safety of the provided assets (keeping weapons in Ukraine and not selling it further to baddies). Like, there’s a severe shortage of atgms, and as of lately majority of russian hardware is hit either with artillery or with FPV drones, or direct hit weapons such as RPGs.

        At the same time Netanjahu is a very risky political actor who has proven his, um, tendency to manipulate the political spectrum, who’s government absolutely fucked up the insurrection, and who governs a closest thing to an apartheid system since SA. Ffs his minister of internal security is so far right, he was expelled from IDF! And these people are promised unconstrained access to weapons.

        This makes me sad.

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    10 months ago

    This article is inaccurate or at least misleading in its title presentation. It’s reporting on something that happened on October 20th, as the second paragraph notes, and was never actually enacted. In fact, Biden moved back from this and has been instead moving to restrict all weaponry sales to Israel in the past few days.

    Biden has not been in any form of good light in my eyes in the past two months, but please don’t spread fake or misleading information like this.

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      It’s reporting on something that happened on October 20th, as the second paragraph notes, and was never actually enacted.

      It’s reporting on a budget request filed on October 20th. The requests pertain to fiscal year 2024. It’s still set before the Senate to be voted on.

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      Do you have a source for him moving to restrict sales? I see there was a House bill about that a couple weeks ago, but it didn’t involve Biden.

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      That doesn’t fit the us vs them narrative OP wants you to accept. How’s your down vote count looking?

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      Israel has something on every Western leader… the fact they’re the front line of defense against jihadism.

      There’s a reason why the west has lined up behind the only democracy in the region.

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        Israel is not a democracy if they have different laws for different classes of citizens.

        They are a far right fanatical zionist theocracy

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    There’s nothing genocide Joe loves more than bombing brown people. Reminder that this is the same piece of human garbage that voted for the invasion of Iraq in which US regime massacred over a million people.