If only she had a gun she could have protected herself!
Don’t give them ideas…
Oh they already have them!
And they suck and are stupid. Hate to sound crazy, but I’m tired of their fight fire with fire rhetoric. I just want them to realize how inept they sound.
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That’s what happens when people can do private sales without any checks 👍 FREEDOM MOTHERFUCKER!
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Thank goodness mentally incompetent people can still purchase and own firearms, wouldn’t feel like freedom any other way.
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But mentally incompetent people can hold guns? Wonderful
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Yeah but that makes it harder for people to actually address the fact that high rates of firearm ownership is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for high rates of homicide, which has consistently been correlated with a lack of socioeconomic mobility among young adult men across societies and times. But that’s hard, so instead we just sarcastically post “FREEDOM” and “now is not the time to address guns” while, ironically, never actually doing the difficult but necessary work of discussing the underlying structural economic conditions and caste dynamics which lead to this problem. Because that’s hard.
High rates of gun ownership is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition for high rates of homicide. “Necessary” would imply that high homicide rate is flat out impossible without high gun ownership, which is clearly not true.
Mentally incompetent Americans. Mentally incompetent people in civilized countries usually don’t even come close to guns.
EDIT: Looks like the ammosexuals don’t like my take. Yes, people lile you are left unarmed for good in civilized countries, if you like it or not.
Wouldn’t his status as being mentally incompetent come up somewhere? I’m not from the USA and hate guns so I don’t know all the details about these background checks.
In some of our states, a “background check” is when the examiner looks up from his desk. If you’re blocking the background, he checks the “good to own a firearm” box.
Yeah except the part where it is federal law that all FFL dealers have to run an FBI NICSs check on all gun sales in every state because that is a federal law.
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The alternative is that you have to do paperwork every time you buy or sell a gun, which is actually worse than innocent people dying
The only paperwork I need is the one written by a bunch of old white dudes who owned slaves and barely washed 😎
Looks like someone didn’t find that funny 😂
Freedom to kill innocent people, freedom to die randomly by flying bullets.
Can’t have one without the other (contrary to what ammosexuals believe)
How in the FUCK does that guy get access to guns? Is there literally no check and balances for buying a gun in the states? WTF
What a challenging character: He had a brain injury in infancy, functions at a kindergarten level, and can’t be tried due to incompetence, but he apparently drives and repeatedly pulls straps.
Thank God for American logic and lobbying, we avoided punishing our loyal gun owners
This is the kind of story you save for one of those 2A “shall not be infringed” absolutists. There is no way that a just set of laws would let this guy get a gun.
It’s pretty easy to buy a gun in this state. If he does get flagged by the system the black market is flooded with them. There’s an epidemic in Nashville (and probably many other places) of guns being stolen from vehicles. Almost no arrests are ever made, and yet people still leave firearms in their cars.
Does TN have licensing or permitting? I’m guessing no. Maybe they should, if there are that many irresponsible people leaving firearms unsecured.
They passed a law a couple years ago for open carry. Anyone able to purchase a gun can have a loaded handgun with them concealed or not. It’s basically the wild west out here.
Just commenting on checks and balances, there generally aren’t any. It’s a constitutional right to have guns in the USA, so most laws that would enforce any kind of restrictions on ownership or access to firearms, are usually deemed unconstitutional and thrown out.
There are entire groups actively working to ensure everyone has fair and unrestricted access to guns, most notably the NRA. Those groups are unapologetic about what they do and they’ve been very successful in maintaining the status quo for gun access.
IMO as long as the right to bear arms stays enshrined in the US Constitution, this will not change.
I’m not an American and I’m very thankful for that because of things like this, however, my life is very affected by what happens there. As a result, I’m pretty well versed on their country. At times, I know the US laws better than my own countries laws.
Unfortunately it has recently changed …. For the worst.
Previously there were restrictions on carrying and ownership in many states. Those laws were deemed legal because they weren’t bans but limited restrictions . It was enough to make a difference and most such states gad had noticeably lower firearm violence. So we even proved within the US that such laws worked.
Then the Trump Supreme Court struck down most of them
no there are not. we have more guns than people, and americans literally have guns just lying around their houses. because we allow it. because 'merica.
so yeah, when we cut all our public mental healthcare in the 80s, and put all those crazy people back on the streets, yes they have access to weapons.
“Stray Bullet” makes it sound like the bullet got off leash. This was a reckless and irresponsible use of firearms and we should start calling it that.
Irresponsible use of firearms in an irresponsible gun culture. Toxic combo.
Sounds like you’re conflating gangbangers who post tiktok videos of themselves blasting the air with the 1/3-1/2 of normal humans in American households who own guns.
The real problem here seems to have been the court confusing a gangbanger for a human who can integrate into society.
Yeah, fuck that NRA apologist bullshit
small price to pay for freedom
Then do us a favour and pay up.
Death is the price you pay to buy freedoms, it’s not a fucking subscription service.
As a matter of fact, it is a subscription, and it’s exactly how the right to privacy, right to not self-incriminate, due process in general, and “beyond a reasonable doubt” work: on the principle that it’s better that some evil people will get off and reoffend than it is for innocent people to be incarcerated for failing to prove their innocence. Not how it always works when prosecutors and judges have a different personal philosophy, but that’s the idea and the trade-off taken.
No, it’s not. Suffering death is the cost of not having the rights to live. Death is the cost of winning those rights. You believe it’s a subscription service because you haven’t won those rights yet and you’re still paying the cost of not having the right to live.
I’m not sure you fully understand the words you’re saying, “right to live” would necessarily demand compelling people to act in the furtherance of everyone else’s lives. You could be held criminally liable for eating too much for example, because you’re taking away resources needed to keep others alive, and your unhealthy lifestyle taxing the health system actively hurts those who need it more.
You’re looking for a different kind of government altogether.
Agreed completely
They’re even admitting they won’t take the responsibility to attempt tracking it down!
The cost of freedom i guess
Being found incompetent generally removes your right to have a gun. Why did he have a gun? Why wasn’t it taken away?
If the laws we have aren’t enforced, then passing more laws isn’t going to help.
Most guns used in crimes are stolen, bought on the street, taken from a relative, etc.
So it’s probably pretty easy to get a gun in the circles this guy moved in.
That’s usually the case. Which means passing yet more laws without enforcement is not going to have an effect on a group that overall ignores the law.
TL;DR - gun owners are creating the very problem they claim to need firearms to defend themselves against, but resist any possible regulation between themselves and their toys and are quite happy to let society pay for their unfettered right.
I’ve had guns my entire life. The only laws that will make any sense are requirements to secure firearms and making gun owners responsible for crimes committed with said firearms should they not be secured. A somewhat distant third would be capacity limits on magazines…seriously, I’ve had shit tons of fun shooting with 3 round mags or 5 round stripper clips. Nobody needs 15, 25+ round mags. At that point it’s a toy the owner is accessorizing. I’ve done more than one deep dive into the statistics regarding firearm use in crimes, and as I previously mentioned, the vast majority of firearms used are taken/stolen. Grabbed from a relative’s closet. People leave guns under car seats, glove boxes, truck door pockets, countertops, closets, wherever they either left them out of laziness or some fear they make up to justify them accessible in an instant. Theft is a fact of life. There’s never been a civilization without it. Homes and cars will be broken in to and guns stolen. Those guns directly used or sold on the street to be used in crimes. Now the gun owner washes their hands of the gun on the street and goes and buys more to defend against the criminals that stole their stuff. Rinse and repeat.
If people can afford hundreds or thousands of dollars worth of firearms, they can afford a safe. They can afford to not be dumbasses and not leave unsecured firearms where little Johnny can find it and shoot himself, where Tyler doesn’t have the safe code to grab a couple handguns and shoot up his school, where some dude doesn’t steal the guns out of the pickup and then go shoot a store clerk for $ or the other drug dealer on his turf. Failure to secure said firearm gets a nasty charge, like accessory to deadly assault or something. I’m tired of gun owners’ who think gun control stops as soon a a they leave the range and that leave the rest of society to pay the deadly price for their toys.
Lots of Canada’s laws are a little extreme to me, but they cover a lot that you said. Restricted firearms need an extra permit that requires personal references, and must be double locked(like a locked case in a locked safe, or trigger lock plus locked case) during storage and transportation, and we limit magazine sizes. Lots of our gun crime involves firearms purchased legally in the US that make their way here on the black market, so I’m in favour of the US tightening up their gun control.
“Freedom”
There is so much that is unfortunate about this. First off, another person dead because of guns. Second, there is so much news and uproar because she was a young white woman. This is undeniable. Third, in looking for statistics on stray bullet incidences, I found that there is no official tracking in the US.
I found a study of 2008 stray bullet incidents, including deaths from combining news reports. In the year, they found 284 of 501 unique reports of different incidences that met criteria injuring 317 ppl (almost one a day). Of these, about 20% died, and most injured were at home, not aware of any gun violence. Suffice to say, each statistic is a person just like her, and their deaths are all needless tragedies brought on by gun culture.
Source: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/201323
See, guns don’t kill people, bullets do!
Chris Rock had a great bit on this a long time ago. Bullet Control
One could argue “Shaquille Taylor” does as he arguably played a key role by pulling the trigger.
If it wasn’t for that pesky gravity meddling, this wouldn’t have happened!
Bruh why you gotta be a bullet blamer like that. If the car hadn’t been there non of this happens.
Child in Gunsville, Alabama, dressed as gun holding a gun at a local gun appreciation day parade gets shot in the gun by a group of gun-shooting friends called the “fun guns gun group” who’s group motto is “let’s gun for fun!”. Now is not the time to discuss guns.
Well this is america, you have to expect stray bullets.
True, but the inaction on this issue is unacceptable.
A society where you have to expect stray bullets has a problem. When you have a problem, you take action to correct that problem. The US does not take any action to correct the problem. The problem continues.
How sad. What a waste.
This wasn’t just a stray bullet. This was a madman who had terrorized people with guns in the past, and was set free because he isn’t fit to stand trial, which somehow means he’s fit to be free and have guns.
I don’t give a fuck about the shooters backstory or why he’s messed up in the head, he should never been allowed out in society of he’s not fit, yet dangerous.
USA! USA! USA!
The only strays found in parks should be dogs. Not freaking bullets!!! What the heck is a ‘stray bullet’ anyway, they move in straight lines and can only be set off by someone pulling a trigger.
we shouldn’t be finding strays anywhere. please adopt dogs and bullets from your local shelter.
I imagine some “stray bullet” injuries/deaths are caused by firing into the air causing an arc. Don’t mean to “actually” you but it likely isn’t always a shot fired horizontally.
I agree with you by the way. And gun control could start would rigorous training requirements (like checking backstops, education on safety) – it wouldn’t have to be “they’re taking our guns!”.
Tbf neither are actually “allowed” to be in parks.
Guns don’t kill stray bullets do…
Bullets don’t kill, kinetic energy does.
This article has some bullshit in it. I don’t doubt the reporting; I doubt the authorities. Per actual Federal law, a finding of being mentally incompetent to stand trial means the defendant is incarcerated indefinitely, not released. Why the hell was this guy on the streets?
I don’t doubt what you’re saying, but I’m gonna go out on a limb and say the article probably did some handwaving on the actual circumstances.
