I stupidly changed over from IPhone over a year ago when I saw their CEO sucking Trump’s dick. I was ignorant, I thought Samsung was better. I thought it was still somewhat expandable but holy shit was I in for a rude awakening. I got in a 2 year contract for the Galaxy s25 and have regretted it ever since. The company isn’t more ethical than Apple and what a horrible product compared to the iPhone. I have a long list of everything that’s shitty about this phone but I’m just wondering… Does anyone actually like them or do people just buy them out of ignorance like me, the price difference or what? I had the iPhone Xs before this and although older, was a much superior product.
Oh well… Live and learn. 6 months to go of this Android bullshit. 😂 What a shit phone.
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Nope, none of us do. We’re all just being fooled like you were and we’re all dying to get back to our precious iPhones. You figured out the ruse, congratulations! Guys, they did it, we can finally go home!
You could try sharing your list of issues, there’s a good chance a lot of your issues are fixable, because unlike on iOS you can make your own decisions on Android. Even on Samsungs, they have the good lock app they made which you can use to customize many things they didn’t expose by default. I’ve customized how many apps fit on a screen, how far the volume changes per button press, I customized the keyboard when I was using Samsung’s keyboard…
Oh that’s right, you can change the keyboard app if you don’t like the one you’re using. You can change basically anything on Android if you don’t like it.
I certainly do, as someone who likes open source stuff, self hosting, ham radio and general tinkering, iOS is unbelievably limited and you can’t really do much with it outside ‘use the apps’, and the app store is missing so much too.
That said Samsung is kinda eh. Lots of annoying things about them.
Anything apple is on the top of my shit list since I tried copying mp3s from my friends ipod to my pc sometine in the early 2000s and the names were scrambled for no good reason.
That’s how they make it impossible to buy anything that isn’t Apple.
So, you’re actually comparing iPhone and Samsung, not iOS and Android.
Also I’m sure my 200$ Android phone does nothing less from 1000$ iPhone, so there is that. Unless you use an open custom ROM for your phone, most of the pre-installed Android suck too.
Well, I’m sure there are many things iOS does that your Android can’t:
- Lock you into a proprietary garden where they control everything
- Force you to buy an App, watch dozen of ads inside a free App or just install Spyware in order to do any task not strictly being “Open TikTok”, “Write 50 lines of Text” or “Ask a shitty LLM to accomplish nothing for you”
- Automatically send all your data to any government you’re either currently in, mainly reside in or that is interested in you
All those “features” are coming to Android. Just wait.
Not to custom ROMs.
Obviously
You said those “features” would come to Android at some point.
However, there are obviously already many ROMs with them, and have been for years. Samsung, Huawei, etc. So if, with “to Android”, you’d mean any custom ROM, you’d be wrong, because it already happened. So the only logical conclusion is that you mean to all Android ROMs. Which also is wrong, because there will be ones without. And specifically those are the ones we’re actually talking about.So no, those features will not come to the Android meant in this comment chain.
I wish this was true still, but all these are things that Android does. Unless you go to like Graphene, which I highly recommend. Degoogle people, google does all this and so many more nefarious things.
That’s why I said “your” Android.
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
I do. I have my launcher set up just like I want it. Tons of gestures are configured to make my life easy.
I have some self written apps and ab decent amount of side loaded apps that aren’t available in the regular play store.
Can you share your gesture setup? I would like to improve my android experience.
Samsung is the iPhoniest of the Androids, too, especially with regard to vendor lock in. The joy of Android is that it’s a (philosophically) open OS, which Samsung does everything it can to make proprietary.
That said, if you’re worried about Trump, associating with Google–who makes Android–is probably the very worst choice you could make. No doubt Google is a key part of the coming surveillance state in the future Fascists States of America.
I’m using graphene OS, a modded and secure version of android, only available on Google Pixels (ironically) (soon available on Motorola), but the way things are going, I think it’s time to start figuring out Linux phones.
Man I would love a Linux OS as an alternative to android that’s workable day-to-day on my phone.
Yes, by a wide margin (and I do regularly use both due to being an app developer). Mainly because Android is infinitely more customizable, but also because it supports stuff like browsers with proper adblocking. iOS is more stable and easier to figure out I guess, but that makes it feel boring, limiting and oversimplified to me.
I tried downloading and opening a file once on ios, and the phone fought me so much.
Also, if an app isn’t in the ios app store, you just… Can’t install it?? And people choose to live like this???
It’s really hard to discuss your percieved faults in either android phones writ large, google-connected Android phones in general, or Samsung in particular if you don’t ennumerate said faults.
That being said : yes, I vastly prefer Android to iPhone. The latter comes with vendor lock-in and user infantilization that made the platform untenable for me more than a decade ago, and nothing I’ve heard since has given me reason to reconsider.
If you’re all-in with an iPhone, Mac, apple watch, and the rest, I’m sure that swapping out the iPhone for a Samsung had any number of aggrivations. But faulting Samsung for that lock-in would be like blaming Valve when the LibreOffice on your steam-cube doesnt seamless connect to iCloud.
iPhones are great for teenagers and the elderly.
But, if you actually know how to use your phone, Android is the way to go.
I don’t believe in official Android anymore since all the phone makers are putting it behind a walled garden (you cannot install another ROM on Samsungs, and Google prevents people from installing their own applications).
My “way to go” would be GrapheneOS with a soon to be released Motorola, LineageOS, or that Sailfish OS. But “Android” itself is dead to me as much as iOS.
I’m on Lineage OS and it’s pretty good minus I can’t fully utilize my cameras as much, but it functions.
I love having 4-5 day battery life though. I charged up Sunday and am at 68%still, no lie! Not having Google everything run in the background is awesome!
- Buying locked phones is a BAD BAD idea
- Getting something as close to stock android as possible is a good idea. The further something goes away from stock android, the more I personally hate it.
Don’t be an idiot. Do your research before making a big purchase. There is no such thing as Android vs iOS. There’s Samsung vs Motorola vs Xiaomi vs Apple and so on.
Brands to avoid in my opinion:
- Samsung. So much bloat on their phones ugh. I don’t like one ui (their android skin). Also, as someone mentioned, they’re the Applest of non Apple brands.
- Xiaomi. Same problems that Samsung has, except their UI is eeeeven shitter. The cluttered ui (which seems to be quite present in Asian origin software) gives me a headache.
Now I don’t want to endorse any given brand cuz fuck corporations. BUT, if you’re looking for Android, I’d recommend going for brands with stock/almost stock android on their phones.
Don’t fall in the “Xiaomi just has better hardware” trap. It is true that Xiaomi tends to pack their phones with more capable hardware. BUT holy moly is their software so so so bad. If your phone isn’t your main computational device, then “not the best hardware for the price” is not going to hurt, trust me.
IF you want to flash custom ROMs then Xiaomi phones could be a good deal. But again, you’re kinda inviting some headache. If you unlock the bootloader, you void warranty and all that. I used to do that when I had a Xiaomi device. But couldn’t keep up and just got a stock android device when the Xiaomi one broke down.
I hate Android with a bloodcurdling passion but yes.
Apple has the most condescending design philosophy I know of and I will never tolerate the degree of suffocation Apple imposes on devices you have purchased and own.
Also Android has F-Droid which makes Android categorically superior to iOS.
Get all of your core basic apps like flashlight apps, image gallery apps, file browser apps etc… from F-Droid.
Samsung? I hate samsung and yet I have an older used flagship samsung phone and ultimately that is what I recommend doing with Android, always buy near top of the line phones (samsung or otherwise), just go used and older until you hit a price point you are comfortable with. This reduces the headaches you will run into with Android a lot since you are always getting the experience Android was meant to give and that designers focused on especially when it comes to the hardware and camera + camera app.
I recommend Swappa for buying used electronics/phones since the website is dedicated to only those kinds of sales and provides a lot of confidence and comfort vs. buying off a random ebay seller.
edit ALSO on Android you can change your launcher/homescreen, the idea that you can’t do this on iOS blows my mind even though it doesn’t surprise me…
I recommend Swappa
I second this. Every phone I’ve bought in the past 3-4 years has come from Swappa.
Coming from someone who worked at a cell phone store for nearly 10 years: Buying your phone from the network provider is probably the dumbest way to do it.
Unfun fact: Google will soon force all developers to identify themselves to Google before running their app; this applies to f-droid.
I think modded android will be able to get around it, at least for now.
Hopefully the more Google tightens its grasp, the more users will slip between their fingers.
I feel like they will run into some issues in the EU with that.
Oh yeah, I am livid about that ughh.
The future is inevitably FOSS. Governments & corporations like to keep their secrets too much to let US-centric companies keep backdoors into their every system.
Yes but part of the selling point a lot of the time does perversely come back to US-centric companies providing the leaders of Governments and Corporations a Backdoor-As-A-Service product to force upon those lower down in the pecking order.
There’s a story about President GW Bush trying to endear himself to Angela Merkel by showing her he knew she talked to on her personal phone the night before. It did not go over well.
The only possible way Google can block installing apps from F-Droid (and other app stores) is to have software on the phone that scans apps as they are being installed.
I doubt if modded OSs will ever have that software. If the devs of custom roms are too lazy to remove the junk they will not have many users.
I imagine there are all sorts of ways they can try to tighten their grip; I’m not going to feel really safe until I’m on an open source OS.
Name one that can work on a degoogled OS.
My first modern smartphone was a HTC hero (the one with the chin), and I’ve never strayed from the Android path. I have an iPhone for work and I hate it with a burning passion. None of the so-called gestures are intuitive or make any sense, I barely touch the thing.
Although I don’t like the way Google is heading and I am considering e/os as my next step.
Yes, absolutely. Android isnt the best ever or anything, but its WAY better than the ‘walled garden’ of iOS.
Apple can fuck all the way off
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