Ecce homo will always make me laugh. Check the mugshot pic of the lady author. Hilarious!
Beat up old guitar in need of refurbishment:
There’s an entire section of the article titled “maintenance”, he apparently does get it regularly repaired
The lead singer from Cake has one of the worst sounding guitar tones you’ll ever hear, but it’s perfect in the context of their songs. ‘Fixing’ it to make it sound good would ruin it. https://youtu.be/tEvcj6Nns_Y
Any tone in existence can be achieved with repaired and properly functioning equipment by a competent musician, avoiding repair because they don’t know how to do that is embarassing
The obsession I have with Trigger…
I love that Willie, a very rich man, still plays THIS guitar and only this guitar. Like, you go to concerts and there’s a guitar tech grabbing different instruments off stage, swapping them out. But ol’ Willie just up there with bus up Trigger looking like she’s about to collapse into splinters. But she produces such a unique sound that no other guitar can match.
This guitar has lived a full life. It even has its own wikipedia page.
There’s a video of it getting “repaired” out there somewhere.
The key is “he loves it. I take from him without him knowing”, whyyyy?
So many arguments in this thread with so little information. Ah, the internet.
He probably just thought it didn’t sound the same any more, and he probably preferred the old ‘crappy’ sound. “They say she’s the same [Becky], but she’s not the same [Becky].”
It’s the Internet so I’d say 1) this definitely didn’t happen and 2) it was written this way specifically to bait engagement.
Is Anon George Lucas?
Reading the comments…is there one actual guitar player here? Does anyone know what the fuck actually goes into setting the intonation and adjusting the action of the strings?
And people talking about permanent changes they could have made…what possible changes are getting done for 200…the proper parts alone would cost at least half of that and no one is doing work in a shop for free.
So presumably she had it set up which means strings were changed, intonation was properly setup and the action was adjusted with a truss rod check and some feet polishing.
If he’s pissed the intonation is correct hes just a shitty player.
Or he liked that it was his guitar that he salvaged with his own hands.
He didn’t “salvage” jack shit he was dumpster diving in high school
Tell me you’ve never played with out telling me you’ve never played
Tell me you’re missing the point without telling me you’re missing the point
The point is stupid
I have a friend with guitars he uses for specific songs. This isn’t even weird for musicians, let alone artists in general.
If someone took my guitar and had it adjusted by someone else to meet standard industry sound specs I’d be pissed. It’s not just a guitar, it’s my hobby and something I have put a lot of time into to get the specific tone, tension, and sound that I’m looking for. Especially if they paid 200 bucks to have it done, you could pick up a beater guitar, an amp, a synth, or even a used drum kit for that much.
It also just crosses a certain line of respect for someone’s art and personal space. It’d be like if someone was working on a painting and you snuck it away to have it finished by a commissioned artist. That’d be shitty and disrespectful.
Exactly what I was thinking. It’s like grabbing your unpainted warhammer figures and having them professionally painted. Yeah, they look better, but that’s not the point.
I’d kill someone if they dared to paint my precious grey Blood Angels.
Foreal, its clear some folks around here have never loved something for a memory
Unpainted or poorly painted plastic figurines function exactly as well as professionally painted ones. This is not how guitar repairs work.
It’s your hobby that you put so much time into but you can’t figure out how to readjust your guitar to get the sound you want after basic repairs? Skill issue
You don’t play an instrument, you don’t make music, you’re just a useless fuck of a cunt.
You don’t have a clue what I do and you don’t actually care, you just want an excuse to pretend I’m not 100% right
You’re 100% a troll.
I don’t argue with brain worms.
I think it’s an overall change. I have a very solid latitude laptop I recovered when work upgraded our systems. It’s beat to hell, but it’s very reliable and I use the hell out of it. I’m not afraid of it getting scratched or dropped, it’s worn in and I love it. Wouldn’t trade it or get it “repaired” for anything.
Don’t fuck with people’s shit without asking wtf. Life isn’t like TV, not every surprise is going to be appreciated.
Asshole: no.
Misguided: yes.
His reaction isn’t unreasonable. Misplaced well intentioned actions likely will not end as intended. Ultimately, she didn’t get it. She misunderstood what he loved about the guitar.
His reaction seems to be to pout and not explain what his problem is. If he could communicate, OP might not have to turn to the internet to find out what they did wrong
The whole idea of “surprises” is complete bullshit. Social media has really over romanticised this to an extreme (big surprise! Big reaction video! Completely staged. Isn’t that soooo romantic and adorable). When my wife gets a present, it costs quite a lot. I’m not going to take a chance of judging her taste, pick a brand I know nothing about and try to guess what she would like. We’ve got an agreement that we pick our own presents and make our plans together. No surprises bullshit. Might be boring by social media standards, but it’s the best I can do.
The modern western version of “gifts” is really about pushing over-consumption. If marketers cannot convince you to buy something yourself, they can try to convince someone else to buy it for you.
I’ve always felt that gifts should be tokens. Symbols of good will, reminders of the relationship. Consumable gifts are great, especially when shared with the giver. Alcohol is great for this, but there’s plenty more you can do. Small, inexpensive art prints or figurines.
I don’t want someone else to buy me something I woukd want to research myself. My parents gave me a “snow thrower” for Christmas a couple years ago. Its a relatively cheap, Ryobi 40v thing- I do not own anything else that uses that battery ecosystem. My step-dad loves his, and I am it is great for their 2-car driveway, but my driveway can probably fit like 10 cars in it, and I would have rather saved up for something nicer myself. Now i’m in this weird limbo where I feel socially obligated to use it for several years at least before I replace it with something I actually want.
I’m a school bus driver and I get tips from the kids (really, the parents) at Christmas and the end of the school year, usually in the form of gift cards. It’s still such a weird concept to me, but the thing I truly appreciate is hand-written (by the kids themselves) cards that express their appreciation and affection. It also saves me from having to go to Target (the most common gift card) and find something there that I actually want.
My bets friend gifted me a few different bottles of mead to try. We tried them together. One bottle was drained by the end, with him drinking about as much as I did.
And it was a great evening, spent with a friend I rarely have the chance to. The mead was good (and what’s left of it still is; pacing myself here), but the quality time was something I can’t order online.
If it came with batteries they make a Ryobi 40v inverter that’s not a bad, but I have a few other things that use those batteries.
The way I do gifts with my Mom is I have a wishlist of things I’ve researched, and she picks from it.
That way what I’m getting is still a surprise, but it’ll be something I actually want.
The way I do gifts with my wife is she either gets me concert lawn seat tickets, or something fun to wear for me.
My sentiment exactly. Every Christmas I get more junk I don’t need, or stuff that I do need, but would have rather researched myself. I hate having a bunch of random knick-knacks and novelty items cluttering up my house, but I also feel guilty getting rid of gifts.
Don’t buy me gifts, don’t bring me souvenirs, I don’t need more novelty t-shirts.
My fiance literally sent me the ring she wanted for our engagement.
Surprises suck, communication rocks!
Talk with her about it.
If she paid for the fucking thing, though, that might be a win!
There are plenty of kinds of surprise that can be wonderful in the right context. Perhaps easiest is when someone tells you they want/would like something, you keep an eye out for opportunities, and surprise them when it comes around. (My wife wanted to see a comedian. I subscribed to their newsletter, and then got (refundable) tickets when they were performing near us, years later.) There can also be things that you are confident someone else will like, which they don’t know exist. (I bought a friend a battery operated pruner after seeing him struggle to keep up with bushes.) Or small things that someone likes (flowers, chocolate, breakfast in bed, depends a lot on what they are into).
The guitar repair was the worst kind of surprise: something irreversible, which the surprisee clearly knew about, and has chosen not to do at every single opportunity - while the surpriser doesn’t know why they are choosing not to. That’s not respectful, which is the absolute minimum requirement for a surprise to work.
For $200 dollars it’s extremely unlikely that anything extensive or irreversible was done, definitely not by an actual professional
I don’t understand this insane fixation that society has with gifts being “surprises”, I find to so annoying, sometimes it even ends up being worse than not giving anything at all the gift is genuinely useless.
One particularly bad case in experience of a surprise gift for me, was when my mom decided to surprise me with a computer as gift, specially since this is a significal finnancial burden, one of which could have been partially relifed by letting me choose and pick parts, but even though we had an agreement to let me pick the parts she just decided randomly to buy a prebuilt instead without notifying me at all, when I was extremely angry at her for this and when I questioned her horrible decision, she said: “I just wanted you to have a happy surprise” and tried to make emotionally guilty trip me when I didn’t show any thankfulness for the gift with: “Why don’t you love me? I do everyrhing for you”
Why? do people assume that I want a surprise? why is this idea so ingrained into people’s brain that when I ask to simply give tge money one would have spent instead in buying the gift, that is seen somehow as rude, what is so rude about trying make the most out of the money would’ve been spent into a worthless sock I didn’t ask nor need?
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I kind of have a hard time imagining such a thing being done with sincerely good intentions, how many people would really do that? Easy to imagine it as a way to exercise power over someone with a plausible pretense though.
This is projection
Yeah, you don’t fuck with shit a person is that attached to because you think it “looks rough”
Clearly a professional agreed that it didn’t just look rough, the shit was damaged
Firstly, they’ll repair and/or make any guitar look better. It’s their job so they’ll do it. Secondly and more importantly, it isn’t about if the guitar is damaged or not. It was clearly loved for what it was, it was probably more about the history of it than anything else.
It’s really not hard to not fuck with other peoples stuff without their consent. And it’s real sad that people like you exist that don’t seem to understand that..ml in a nutshell
Lol cope
I don’t need to, I have a good life and I’m happy. I hope yours gets better.
You do and are
It absolutely is about whether the guitar was damaged or not, that’s extremely relevant information and you’re trying to disregard it because that’s the only way you have any chance of not sounding like a complete fucking moron
I’ve got a guitar with a damaged mid pickup, I picked it up for a song, it roughs up the sound something bad, but the thing is that for what I use it to play that roughness helps give me the tone I’m looking for. I have an old Crate amp that inches closer to the end with every session, and its garbled death rattles add precisely what I want to the sound.
Standardization is for hacks. You don’t get to decide what other people are looking for out of their art.
And just for posterity, what do you play?
I haven’t played an actual instrument in decades, got a lot of musician friends though and I do still play with audio software. You can get any tone in existence with fully repaired and properly functioning equipment if you’re halfway competent, this is cope. Get good and fix your shit.
“My friends play music, so I know better than you.”
Douche.
I’m right and you know it, get good and fix your shit clown
There’s not enough context here to say that with any certainty. If husband was playing it and enjoying it, then it’s doing the job it needs to. Even if it was actually broken and actually fixed, it still changes the relationship between player and instrument and could’ve easily taken away earned character as a way to make it look “nice”
I don’t have a lot of sympathy for the idea of damage as character or lack of maintenance for a musical instrument as an aesthetic decision rather than just a bad decision, but you’re right about there not being enough information
So you think Willie Nelson should replace the top on Trigger?
I think they will ask you if it was damaged…
Willie did try taking it to a repair shop one time when his regular luthier was unavailable. They refused to touch it, because they were afraid of fixing something that shouldn’t be fixed.
Sure, why not
Because it’s more valuable as is
I don’t even mean monetary value (though that’s also true, you don’t refinish a vintage guitar because you halve the selling price), but the historical value and sentimental value and enjoyment value. It’s a record of the time he’s put in on it and the dedication to this instrument. That means something, more than “fixing” it ever could.
He has it repaired regularly dumbass, says so in the wiki article you idiots keep posting
fake: 4chan poster has a husband
Gay: 4chan poster has a husband
Oof, this is a rough one. While I appreciate the gesture, that’s a personal thing. That’s like taking someone’s favorite pair of jeans and getting them hemmed because they’d frayed at the heel. Sometimes the wear and tear is what we value.
I for one don’t like people touching my shit. Especially shot that I’ve already put effort into myself. Ask first before you do something like that.
A worn appearance is often desired on old guitars. In some cases, it can even increase its value.
That, and the OP probably did what would be considered finishing someone’s puzzle for them.
Currently in the market for a vintage and, while I agree with your sentiment, unless the guitar’s name is Trigger I’ve only seen prices drop with wear and tear.
It’s very situational. Cracks and dings? No good. Natural checkering from age on an old acoustic? Higher value.
Doesn’t Fender sell pre-worn guitars for a premium?
God damn, yeah, you are unfortunately.
Depends how it was “fixed” If the pro tuned it to make it sound perfect that’s great. But probably anon got the damage repaired, taking away its charm and character. Of course anon doesn’t even know the difference between these two things.
For $200 they probably didn’t change much
Do you play?
You’re all over this thread and you’re a jackass.
Yeah I play. Yeah I had the shittiest beat up guitar when I was in my youth. I took it all over the world because I didn’t care what happened to it. Loved it while I had it and if someone had “fixed it”, that would have destroyed what it was to me, jackass.
And yeah now I have “better” guitars and I don’t have that 25$ guitar anymore.
Bassist here, I want my bass to sound fucking dirty, fuck the pro fix up. I do it myself and I have since high school. get. fucked.
If you’ve been doing it yourself since high school and still haven’t figured out how to do it reliably with fully repaired and properly functioning equipment then you’re a fucking moron
You don’t play string instruments, do you? There’s a lot that goes into any instrument’s sound, and some of it isn’t a matter of tuning. Especially when we talk about electric instruments. Maybe a pickup you installed on your bass has a small defect that introduces some noise into signal and you like the unique sound signature, for instance.
More goes into the sound of an instrument than just tuning and the body being in good shape, so your repetition of this claim that if you can’t reproduce any given sound character on your instrument with some tuning you’re a “moron” is either reductionist for the sake of trolling or is deeply ignorant.
You could have just said “no I don’t have a clue what makes a tone or how to replicate it” and saved yourself some typing. Skill issue.
Hahahaha you’re cute kid
I know
