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Hey guys I have just discovered a mechanical device with two wheels that you can use to get anywhere petrol free!
xD
tech bros have entered the classical era
Please don’t mention anything even remotely related to Civ on this site for the next few days. I have too much to do.
Thankfully for me I find the game too confusing and boring to be enjoyable, because liking it seems like a really bad idea if you have an addictive personality.
Truly. When playing Civ I lose all sense of time, and even when in the mindset of ‘I’m gonna save and quit’ there’s always one more quick thing to do first. I have to police myself hard because I will lose at least a week if I get into a campaign. I’m not even really a gamer. Games I enjoy I have a difficult time playing for more than a twenty minute spurt. But Civ… Civ is like fucking hypnotoad, it overrides all other feelings and desires. If you find it confusing and boring just go with that and you’ll be much better off.
Stellaris is the same way. When I got hooked I played 40 hours by Thursday. And I was in college, so I realized then I needed to be careful
That’s funny. Stellaris is the one game I have specifically forbidden myself from playing, so it’s good to get confirmation that it would ruin my life!
But I really wanna try that Star Trek mod.
It’s definitely an enjoyable experience though, I have somehow managed to keep it at 220 hours. I will say after the first couple of games I started adding a titan (an endgame ship that you can build a handful of) to my new save files because I’m here for fun.
Might have to try some of the mods, and lose even more of my life to it!
There are a lot of neat mods that really amp it up.
I don’t think I’ve ever used a mod with any of them. Do you have any recommendations, for when I’m less busy?
You sure you don’t want one more turn at this?
😥
My apologies, I’ve accidentally seen the sun rise a few times while playing civ
Silly… the concerpt of a underground fridge probably predates the word cellar.
It might even predate words
The smart apes know.
Put some hot coals, a bucket of water, and birch whisks in there and baby, you got a sauna going!
Underground? That’s fun way to suffocate sure.
Keep in mind that the stick and cardboard houses those people live in usually have a “crawlspace”, nothing more.
Meanwhile in Europe, in some places you can literally get a castle for free!*
*Just as long as you can pay the titanic maintenance bill to maintain it to historical standards.
In an era of rapidly evolving technology, there ultimately isn’t much point to construct buildings, especially individual homes, that will last for centuries. Yes, the house may still be there two hundred years from now, but will anyone actually want to live in it? Or will it require so much updating that you would be better off just building something new?
If we hit a wall on rapid technological progress, then things will be different. If you can be reasonably certain that human beings will be living much as we do now in 500 years, than building a house to last that long will make sense to me. Until then, why waste the resources?
I definitely want to see houses be made of materials that can be recycled. But raw durability is not itself a virtue. Remember the ultimate truth here. Buildings serve people. That’s why they exist. And most people in 2026 do not want to live in a home built for the lifestyle of a 16th century peasant. How many people today know how to tend and cook on an open hearth wood burning stove? Yes, some homes that age do survive. But if anyone is still living in them, they have been heavily renovated and modified, many times over the generations. Old buildings like that are very much Ships of Theseus.
The wisdom of the American style of home construction is precisely in its impermanence. It’s an admission that we don’t have all the answers for all time, and that many of our choices today will seem foolish to our grandchildren. Yes, American homes can be quickly built and quickly torn down. But that is the entire point.
I am Ozymandius, King of Kings. Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair.
There’s no wisdom there, dumbass. They build it that way because it’s cheap.
Reminds me of the Grand Strategy mirage of history, wherein people ascribe some overarching, long-term vision to some sequence of ad-hoc decisions
A friend of ours bought a farm with land for 10k€. The land alone would have been worth that many times over, but the farm house, barn, and all the other buildings are somewhere in the range of 400 years old. And, of course, listed.
So they spent every weekend for over ten years and a fortune into renovating this and making it inhabitable. And the department responsible for historical buildings made the renovation process hell.
It’s a real hard problem for localities to get right. On the one hand, you want to preserve old buildings. On the other hand, buildings are expensive as hell. And when those ancient buildings were constructed, they were built by modest people. They were never meant to be super expensive to maintain. But over the ages, techniques that were commonly known then became rare specialties now. Every Medieval peasant could thatch their own roof. Now you’ll pay a fortune to bring in an expert in historical construction techniques to do it.
Yes, it would be ideal to require everything be maintained to historical standards and methods, but at some point, people just stop trying. People only have so much time, money, and resources. If you make it too difficult to renovate properties, they can’t be updated for regular use. And if they can’t be used, then who will put in the money to maintain them? The properties just end up being abandoned and slowly succumbing to the elements.
Some historical artifacts are easy to preserve. Give me a 300 year old violin and ask me to take care of it, and I can do so for almost no cost to me. Just keep it somewhere safe and dry, and it will be preserved just fine. But buildings require constant maintenance, and they are built assuming the easy availability of certain maintenance techniques. Requiring excessive adherence to historical standards does not result in more preserved homes; it just results in old homes being left to rot.
They live in what now? You mean like, in a slum?
They’re referring to wood-framed houses that have a layer of what’s essentially cardboard between the frame and the plastic vapor barrier that adds rigidity to the framing.
It looks flimsy as hell, but is actually good engineering. Think of it like Ikea furniture that racks until you put the cardboard backing on it, but then is remarkably stable. It also doesn’t crack as the house settles or the ground moves, is easy to patch and repair, can be effectively environmentally sealed with tape when you run plumbing or electrical to it, and can be cut to whatever shape it needs to be with a knife.
American houses are… different
Is that “cellar” built on the beach? I’m no structural engineer, but that don’t sound right.
Maybe he needs further education with the story of the 3 little pigs.
B-b-but it’s apocalypse proof!
" This baby can withstand seawater and nuclear explosions" -OceanDoor salesman, probably
If it does not survive a nuclear explosion 100% money back guarantee. You just need to personally turn up at the office in order to claim your money.
Better keep that original packaging.
“It’s built with a 100% carbon fiber hull!” -OceanDoor salesman (or CEO)
It’s the material of the future.
Depends on the kind of apocalypse we’re talking I think!
Asteroid impact? Probably not.
Supervolcano eruption? Nope.
AI developing sentience and craving human flesh to satisfy its murderous urges? Not likely.
Once you add the underwater airlock in preparation for rising sea levels, it’ll no longer be an issue.
Once the underwater airlock becomes a full-time essential feature, you’ll get to test whether you properly installed explosive decompression preventions at high tide.
After that, you only have to worry about how much of your sand and bedrock the currents wash away.
bad photoshop in both idea and execution
Its real, just a stupid idea
its an artisanal cellar.
Well you have to build your apocalypse bunker compound in a scenic area with a beautiful view, otherwise what’s the point?
They are trying to sell a Shell out of Plastic which you burry in the ground
There are some shells you can get that you bury to make a cellar like this. Sand would be very easy to do this with. It would also be less efficient, pretty sure heavy soils make better cellars.
That’s not cold enough to preserve food.
Below 40F is needed to preserve food. Ideally, just above freezing, if you don’t want to freeze it. I keep my fridge at 35F.
If only there was a commonly accepted temperature scale that makes it easier to see what’s just above freezing and what isn’t.
4.44°C and 1.67°C
Before refrigeration, they used to store big blocks of ice in similar conditions and the ice would last up to 10 months in there.
Today’s geo engineered ice will last half an afternoon and it won’t even burn like normal ice.
Building the cellar on a beach might affect how well it insulates. Loose mini-rocks vs dense soil.
I dug a hole on a beach once. I wonder if it’s still there. I think about that hole sometimes.
Damn, I should call her.
I saw your hole last week. It’s moved on.
But it’s perfect for storing root vegetables like onions and garlic
I keep my fridge at 35.6 F myself, not sure there’s any point in going down to 33.8 though I’ve considered it
Tech bros invent cellars but worse.
This guy mustn’t be rich enough to reinvent trains but worse like the others.
I see Adam Something appear over the horizon at the mention of tech bros trying to reinvent trains :D
I hope they design their own fortresses and bunkers the same way.
Only $19.95 a month after setup fees.
I mean, additional insulation is good.
Not sure what else is “tech bro” here
Everybody already knows that food lasts longer if not stored in direct sunlight. Tech bros are the only idiots that would try and pull something like this off.
We can only be thankful that it isn’t another train. They love to invent trains.
Wait. Trains are great. Please invent more trains.
No we need to make more trains. You only invent them once.
But the tech bros like to talk about self-driving cars, that drive on special self-driving car roads, that are only for self-driving cars. Yeah that’s a train.
Let’s build self driving cars that go on special self driving roads that handle all the steering. To minimize fuel losses from friction while being long lasting, the wheels should be made of some kind of metal, and have a specialized shape to stay centered on the self driving road.
Heck, we could market this to trucking companies, with the low rolling resistance, they could hook a bunch of trailers together! Make some sort of a linked-cargo-hauler, that goes to special depots specifically for these extra long contraptions.
I’m so glad I alone thought of this breakthrough in transportation!
I’m the consumer. Therefore I am always right. And I require more trains to be invented. Do you not want my money, or what?
Those aren’t trains. I don’t give a shit if they want to use the word “invented” if it means we actually get trains.
Sure techbros. Be revolutionary. Invent the subway.
You’re missing the “but worse” part of the equation.
Yeah, I’m not counting Elon’s shit.
“apocalypse-proof” is pretty tech bro coded.
You people have lost all sense of reality.
You’re getting pretty worked up over a lighthearted and frivolous conversation.
I have them tagged as “Dumb ass AI Defender” so they must act like this all the time
What frontend do you use? I want to be able to tag dumbasses too!
I use Voyager. Its pretty nice, I never have any issues with it
Oh yeah, pointing out apocalypse and tech bro coded associations and writing a sentence is worked up 🤣👌👍🤡
Lmao apocalypse proof, except he built it on the beach so even a little bit of global warming would flood it right away. Apocalypse proof, except for that one actual apocalypse we have confirmed is in progress right now.
I just dug myself a whole palace beneath the ground, in the sand right at the shoreline.
This has to be a photoshop. The water table at the beach is the same level as the surface of the ocean, so usually somewhere between a few centimeters to a meter.
Yeah obviously this is fake as fuck. It’s the perfect tech bro invention in that it’s dumb and flawed in every way and also already exists but better for a very long time.
It isn’t even good photoshop, the angles are all wrong. Like is it in the side of a hill? But it looks like it’s on flat ground? It makes no sense.
I love when capitalism loops back like that and rediscovers something it already was before they started adding shit to it to make it better and simpler and then just invent the original all over again and be like- I’m a genius.
Sand dunes at beaches are often above the high tide line.
Its still fake, and sand is the worst soil to build something like this in. But it is possible it wouldn’t flood at high tide.
but how deep could the not-cellar be before hitting high tide?
Depends on the beach. Certainly seen some that could be a few metres above the high tide line.
Yeah this thing would be floating with all that buoyancy
How are you supposed to add AI to it without electricity?
The idea was made by chatGPT, of course
With the recent heat waves we’ve been having it’s nice to visit the cellar for a few minutes of cooling down. Of course I can’t stay too long because of the radon.
at least radon is still affordable unlike nvida
Of course I can’t stay too long because of the radon.
Go diy a radon remover, 3in PVC and a centrifugal fan. Just get it as low as you can to the floor. No reason to get a real system unless you are gonna live there. Any abatement helps.
Edit: If its a dirt floor then it might not help.
I was slightly exaggerating for comic effect. I do have an extractor fan on a timer which stops build ups. It’s definitely not rated for human habitation but the servers are quite happy there 😉
That reminds me: I un-vented my crawlspace not too long ago, so now I ought to check it for radon.
My grandparents used to have an air raid shelter in their garden, you could use it to freeze water in the height of summer.
Although I wouldn’t recommend storing food down there because it was always damp, and full of spiders. I don’t particularly mind spiders but I don’t want to accidentally eat them.
Surprised it isn’t called a Ground Pod.
Only if they rent it for $900 per month and list it as a single bedroom with access to subway
Negative Altitude Produce Storage Facility
NAPSF?
needs work.
Hmmmmm…
Cool Enclosed Longterm Lettuce And Root Preserver, Organic Dimension
CELLARPOD
still needs work.
NAPH-THA.
Negative Altitude Produce Housing - Themally Held Atmosphere
Get in and take a big whiff!
50º? holy shit cellar in hell?
10 °C for us normal people.
A 50 °C hot cellar would be so deep, one should be careful not to awake the Balrog.I don’t think a 10C cellar is possible year round in the USA. In Canada where snow is covering the ground half the year and there is a little bit of remaining permafrost, 10C is vaguely possible.
https://nrc-publications.canada.ca/eng/view/ft/?id=386ddf88-fe8d-45dd-aabb-0a55be826f3f
Its in Fahrenheit because any idea this stupid could only be marketed to Americans.
It’s Icelandic.
Wouldn’t mind a cool cellar to retreat to at this point tbh. Diggy diggy hole!
But doing it reasonably safely probably costs a fair bit for materials to reinforce the soil.
No diggety.
Do yuppies even exist anymore? They were just boomers when I was a kid.
According to UK punk music yes, but they don’t seem to know what it meant originally and it means more just like “wealthy, educated, sheltered and white” the young adult professional part seems to be irrelevant
