I discovered this after upgrading our instance yesterday, which also upgraded all frontends to their latest versions as well. After I did, our Tesseract frontend stopped working and I noticed immediately as it’s been my primary for a while. Initially I thought it was an API version mismatch, but no, it was much worse.
Someone pointed out that the developer of the frontend added an explicit hidden and unmodifiably blacklist which includes any and all instances to the left of Kissinger. There’s a commit which also explains their specious reasoning about our instance specifically, as it seems we’ve been on their shit list for a bit longer than that.
This instance and its admin staff encourages identity politics, groupthink, mob mentality, and extremist solutions to societal problems. Users who advocate violence are not moderated so long as the admins agree with the target. Caution and critical thinking are advised when interacting with this instance or its users.
When you use tesseract to connect to one blacklisted such instance , you just get a message informing you that Tesseract is “incompatible with that instance” which leads one to think of a technical issue, like an API mismatch, rather than the dev being an opinionated coward.
Isn’t it funny how all the software developed by turbolibs, like Piefed and Tesseract, end up with hidden control mechanisms from developers who think they know better than everyone else? That they don’t just think they deserve to tell you what you should think, but they should manipulate you to think it? Isn’t it funny how libs go on about how bad it is to support lemmy due to the ideology of the devs behind it, and yet lemmy has 0 opinions as a software? It does make one think…
Anyway, I forked - it as one does - and disabled the blacklist, but since this is a massively ideologically compromised software, I’ll doubt I’ll keep this frontend up after Lemmy 1.0. I think we’ll bring up mlmym again now that someone’s maintaining it again.
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Lmao they blocked thelemmy.club for a few weeks for seemingly no reason. Unhinged stuff.
What’s wrong with piefed dev? Genuine question. Edit: found it, https://lemmy.ml/post/47306551
You don’t understand! Freedom of speech is only good when it’s freedom of their speech!
But seriously, this recent shift of project leads deciding what users should and shouldn’t see is concerning. And honestly, I could give them the benefit of the doubt if they added it as some sort of opt-in list. But no.
They will force their narrative down the users’ throats.
I might not always agree with db0, the Anarchist Flotilla, or the “Tankie Triad”. But whatever shakes Lemmy right now, consider me an ally. Whatever these egocentric folks attempt to create, it is everything Lemmy was created to replace.
Also, that’s a lovely list they made of places to follow.
Devs like this do not belong with open source projects.
I agree. People who do this are emotionally compromised and in my opinion can’t be trusted when writing code. There was a different developer who through similar political convictions made his software wipe PCs that were in Russia or Belarus. Maybe that seems more extreme but it comes from the same politically charged and emotionally compromised place.
wipe PCs that were in Russia or Belarus.
What a no-effort adult* tantrum. Were they hoping to somehow strike it lucky and wipe govt rigs? Nevermind the innumerable civie casualties along the way? Fuckin’ chud. 🤮
*being generous, I know.
Unfortunately that piece of shit didn’t even get fired or cast out of the open source community, let alone get sent to prison for that. And yes as an American he could get sent to prison for that because he also effected American military systems in the region.
Fascist bootlickers you mean?
Neo Nazis
Only the derpiest of wannabes need apply. 🤢
Can you imagine what we’d be dealing with if they were actually competent? 🙆🏼♂️
I would appear asimon04 changed their name to paulo-roger. It appears they are trying to remove some of their repo from public view. But git doesn’t remove data just because it’s orphaned.
Here are some updated links, these might be good for another week before git does GC.
link in title: https://github.com/paulo-roger/tesseract/blob/e70e3a3cef739c59288ec78f0bbb4f0e1b4fa194/src/lib/blacklists.ts#L2270
Commit Explaining Specious reasoning: https://github.com/paulo-roger/tesseract/commit/2b53f17a5506b7c4b3ad1d5c26af49662f03a478
Old Main before they rolled it back 3 years: https://github.com/paulo-roger/tesseract/blob/e70e3a3cef739c59288ec78f0bbb4f0e1b4fa194/
Users who advocate violence are not moderated so long as the admins agree with the target
are they wrong though?
Not wrong, but the target of violence being fascists is not a bad thing. The Dev is hiding that fact and pretending all violence is inherently equal. It’s the same logic Zionists use to demonize Palestinian resistance groups.
Yeah, actually, this is a huge problem I have with the larger Fediverse. Not just one instance.
The dev still approached it the wrong way though. It’s no excuse.
I want my Fediverse like Reddit, where you get banned for saying Hitler should have been killed but white supremacism is allowed.
On lemmy we get comments saying people with camera glasses (or whatever you call them) should be physically assaulted instead.
Like, the bar for calling for violence on lemmy is horrifically low.
It’s not that low. Just don’t be a disgusting billionaire fascist apologist, or wear state surveillance cameras on your face, and we’ll get along just fine. Next you’ll be complaining about flock cameras being vandalised? Allowing secret surveillance of citizens is a hallmark of authoritarianism that all of us as human beings have a duty to resist.
Hitler is dead. Of course Reddit sucks.
But I don’t think we should explicitly advocate for the death of living people.
Where is there any political group or faction today that doesn’t advocate for and celebrate violence? I honestly don’t see any. It’s just a question of against who and what justification is used.
And the people in charge? They are slowly killing us, the whole world. But oh do not advocate for violence while we fund and support these wars.
Where is there any political group or faction today that doesn’t advocate for and celebrate violence?
Yeah… That is not how the vast majority of the population thinks. Even if it seems that way online.
I can’t believe I’m debating “well every political faction advocates for murder, explicitly, so why shouldn’t we?” I don’t even know where to begin, there.
Do you not think a vote for Trump is not just advocating for violence, but a real action supporting violence? What about the liberals who support Israel’s genocide? Is that not advocating for violence? Those who deny climate change? Antivaxxers who refuse to mask up or obstruct medical policy? Those who who celebrate the Ukrainian strikes into Russia and deny diplomatic solutions?
If it helps, I do agree with you, that alone is no justification. The only justification for murder is to save an innocent life. For example if violence was the only practically viable solution to topple a murderous regime, and would actually be able to succeed. If there are other non violent ways, you have to take those. But they made sure there are none.
Don’t attribute wholesale to malice what can be perfectly explained by either stupidity or self-interest. Besides, I don’t think that the average American is concerned overmuch with US external affairs - unless it affects the price of gas.
Haha, Hanlon’s razor, very true. But I’m more of a utilitarian concerned with the consequences the older I get. I don’t blame people for being lied to or brainwashed or being stupid, but the result is still support for violence.
Cops, landlords, and (x)illionaires have withheld their humanity to “make a living” and so the same sentiment should be expressed towards them.
When the state protects genociders, there is nothing wrong with using violence against them. I would love for every member of the state of Israel to stand trial and be punished legally and appropriately, but there is no state right now that has the power or inclination to do that, so in the meantime I will not condemn Palestinians for using violence to protect themselves and to make it so that Israelis cannot continue to perpetrate genocide.
I would love it if health insurance CEOs were made to stand trial for denying coverage to dying people, but there is no court in America that will hear that case, so in the meantime I will not condemn the Luigis of this world for taking justice into their own hands.
Give me a state that actually delivers justice for everyday people instead of the rich, and I will advocate for non-violence.
So brave very adult.
We’re not pacifists, no
Fuck me…
ugggggghhhhhh
Our ‘liberals’ aren’t liberal.
That comment you highlighted just reads like a jordanlund modlog defending genocide by way of banning someone who says ‘genociders should die instead, actually’.
They can’t help themselves from being elitists.
Its like they’re hardwired, they’re so incredibly insecure that they front this moral superiority god complex, and anything that challenges the actual logic of that morality is fundamentally evil… because they can’t be wrong.
These people are confused… they’re reactionary conservatives, they’re wannabe politicos/consultants… literal thought police, frame keepers of the overton window.
I don’t really know who Jordan Lund is or what he’s about, my first thought was Jordan Peterson who I think is a pretty unhinged UofT professor, someone cut together this rant about “rat desire” from that guy, it’s quite funny with or without context. I just looked up if that was the same Jordan, and the only rat related Lund is a Zoe Lund, https://www.zoelund.com/lund/rats/rats.html
Anyway I keep seeing their names pop up and I have no real context for what they are about, and looking at Google results it’s just some whitewashed stuff about J Lund doing Shakespeare.
So what is up with that guy?
… go search through the power tripping bastards comm.
Or lemmy.world support comm or their main lemmyworld(sp) comm
Ah I thought he was a normie not a fediverse person
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0526185/
Literally this guy? I know his face
No, not the actor. Just same name
Yeah that’s not… the same guy, no.
I am genuienly amused that you are this curious about him. Sorry I was a bit grumpy earlier.
Because I care about you…
... be warned, he literally is the perfect visual stereotype of a neckbeard
https://www.opb.org/news/series/racenw/race-northwest-united-states-jordan-lund-portland/
Hilary stan, actively worked against Bernie when it could have helped him, then decided Bernie was neat after there was no realistic chance he could be Presidenr.
Cares more about his neighborhood being quiet than the lives of black people, thinks protests should only be held in areas designated and pre planned by the authorities.
Is seemingly unaware that … the reason Portland doesn’t have much black population these days is because I5 got built directly through the neighborhood they lived in, and everywhere else in Portland was redlined, so they had to leave, they weren’t welcome anymore.
But that doesn’t matter to him, because he works in tech, and that’s all ancient history.
What he notices… is anti-male bias. Surely its simply because he kept incorrectly calling his trillby a fedora, for a while.
On that note… If I can websearch this in 2 seconds… whatever, mods remove this if this is too much:
https://www.stackforce.co/talent/6a5dfa305b4c16902e24eed9
Yeah he ran a betting website for a while…
Then went to work for Adobe Marketo, for a decade.
You know… advertisements. Social Media. How to convince people they should subscribe to something, maybe even how to moderate something like a Reddit community, maybe. Who knows!
Now he’s retired and owns a book store, aw, how Portland.
In summary, he’s got 10+ years of corporate social media management under his belt, is painfully white, thus ridden with misplaced white guilt, and a Hilary Clinton style Zionist.
There. Because you asked.
be warned, he literally is the perfect visual stereotype of a neckbeard
He’s the WoW guy from South Park?
If his thing was unique and not a widely-applicable trope, I wouldn’t be surprised. Fun fact, the guy @ Emerald City Comics in Eugene, OR is the comic book guy from The Simpson’s —that, I can attest personally. It’s uncanny, from the look to the voice to the demeanor. It was like walking onto the set. 🤓😵💫
edit: I just tried to look it up, and it’s apparently gone. It’s been ~20yrs since I visited, so that tracks. Maybe Nostalgia Comics is the new face, but I’ve no idea if he still runs/works it.
Just realised I didn’t thank you, so thank you
No prob!
Think of your stereotypical power-tripping Reddit mod, in both behaviour and appearance. That’s Jordan. He is a moderator of several lemmy.world communities and never faces any consequences for being a PTB since he has the backing of LW’s admin team.
cough
Pretty sure he is the LW ‘admin team’
cough
He at the very least has full access to the LW bot that can do most of the functions of an admin.
Everything is coming together thank you
Their paternalistic elitism is exactly what makes them such willing foot soldiers for capital.
What is the issue with PieFed?
I’m also curious and hoping @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com could expand or point to something for background.
I searched and found this. Not sure if it is what db0 referred to.
Ye basically. Piefed was also very opinionated on what to silently drop and avoid showing. It didn’t go as far as tesseract, but it did rub a lot of people the wrong way
I recently found out Admiral Patrick made a response to this situation where he doesn’t address any of the concerns related to censoring leftists and just points to the spam he included in the list.
Here’s his post:
https://lemmy.world/post/49817942Looks like they’ve deleted their repo for tesseract.
Probably for the best given their credibility as a FOSS dev is shot now anyway. But at least nobody else will unwittingly walk into their
curatedenforced bubble.Nah, they just renamed their account https://github.com/paulo-roger/tesseract
It looks like they transferred ownership of the repo?
🤷♂️
More likely they privated their repo. Your fork is way ahead with this devs commits. I’d guess the dev made a fork of the paulo-roger repo when they stopped the development.
Mine is ahead because that repo was at my level when I forked
Well yeah. The guy made a bunch of commits, you forked, they privated the repo. The repo you forked “no longer exists” so parent fork is reported. Nobody renamed their account, nobody transferred the repo.
I’m pretty sure his wasn’t a fork. He hard forked from photon, so there’s nobody he forked from calling it tesseract. This doesn’t make sense
So the last commit on the apparent “original” paulo-roger/tesseract repo states abandonment of the project in 2023. However this commit, like every other in this repo, is authored by asimons04.
$ git log | grep asimons | wc -l 651 $ git log | grep roger | wc -l 0That seems pretty weird to me. I guess if they were added as a contributor at some point they could’ve force-pushed a rewritten history? Still doesn’t make a lot of sense.
Edit: Maybe it’s just paulo-roger who checked out asimons04’s repo after they abandoned it and uploaded it to his profile as a fresh repo instead of forking, and somehow GitHub mistook it for the parent repo after as04 made their repo private/whatever happened?
My theory was something like:
- Repo
A(paulo-roger) abandoned at 2023 - Repo
B(asimons04) forked and worked from there - Repo
C(OP)
Now what happens if repo
Bis removed (privated)? We still have all the commit history form repoB, but no upstream to link to that history. We also have all the commit history form repoA, however the upstream is still public so it gets linked properly.The fork chain is still the same
A -> b -> Cwe just no longer see repoBon github. It doesn’t mean that anything got moved, deleted or overwritten, just hidden.- Repo
Ye that’s my suspicion as well. I think I got redirected to a random fork
I love the still have the commited developer part in Readme after their development halted message
Fair enough. I noticed that one from the fork you made. I just assumed that’s where Patrick forked it from originally.
Isn’t it still there? (I mean, here: https://github.com/asimons04/tesseract/)
I’m not on it, unfortunately.
Yeah looks like its back up. I’m guessing they made it private and had a change of heart. When I checked earlier, it would 404, and db0’s fork now references the earlier fork in the chain rather than this one.
There wasn’t an earlier fork. Either ap isn’t telling the whole story of what they did with their repo (they also lost all their stars), or github is bugged somehow
There’s a commit which also explains their specious reasoning about our instance specifically, as it seems we’ve been on their shit list for a bit longer than that.
As of that commit (April 29) the instance blacklist didn’t even include lemmy.ml !
… but i see a month later they added us in this commit, while removing a large list of specific users and communities which they were also previously hiding content from.
Well well well
export let CONTENT_WARNING_INSTANCES = [ { domain: "lemmy.dbzer0.com", reason: `This instance and its admin staff encourages identity politics, groupthink, mob mentality, and extremist solutions to societal problems. Users who advocate violence are not moderated so long as the admins agree with the target. Caution and critical thinking are advised when interacting with this instance or its users.` }, ]identity politics
GODDAMMIT I HAVE TO FIGHT THE WOKE WITH MY CODE!!!
I consider it a badge of honor that we were the OG “identity politics, groupthink, mob mentality, and extremist solutions to societal problems” instance before it was cool.
Solidarity brother
uhhhh you sure about that
The only decider that counts (Admiral Patric ofc ofc) didn’t give you that specific flair so, QED
Damn, missed the hall of fame club.
wow, i expected you’d make the cut, but i guess you just weren’t posting hard enough.
meanwhile @CARCOSA@hexbear.net is not only on the list but was honored with a personal regex and a comment line!
Honestly surprised, considering how much reactionaries hate me. Still, shout out to @CARCOSA@hexbear.net !
I fucking made world melt down for a week and I’m not on there.
The injustice!
Honestly I’m kind of offended, and baffled you aren’t on there either.
Ridiculous, non of my alts are either.
Geneva_convenience is on there. What the fuck.
My self image is shattered
What’s funniest is that I seem to be mentioned by name but not actually added, lol
Edit: I’m not actually mentioned, I misunderstood a terminal search.
Sucks to suck.
It really does.
I guess I’ll retVrn to posting PETA protests till someone starts a slap fight.
There is a good reason to have crowdsourced filters for spammers and chuds, but this shit ain’t the way.
As someone who scripts shit for work, it’s so damn frustrating seeing things that could be legitimately useful tools/features if they were done correctly and transparently ending up as this poorly designed shit that is intentionally misleading to end users.
For fucks sake, go ahead and go off with your personal opinions in like, the example template for an “auto-collapse/hide” feature. Just don’t make it a hard coded default.
There is nothing wrong about adding default filters to the software(whenever they are acceptable by others or not). The problem is that this should be done via a separate data file from which code extracts strings and not be hardcoded, as it is against the programming etiquette. Also, this file with filter data shouldn’t be hidden or obscured, so that others can modify it as they want.
Etiquette aside, this is just functionally bad. It took db0 months to notice because the frontend didn’t get updated until an instance upgrade. Seems like that would be pretty common and vary widely between instances, making updating the list a slow, unreliable process. Even if they wanted to censor sites themselves, it would’ve made more sense to have the list itself remotely hosted so it could be updated without waiting for full instance upgrades some months later.
this stuff should never ever be hardcoded.
but muh authoritarians
lmao
Call me crazy but I don’t think that maga.place is a lefty instance
NOOOO!!
That’s clearly just the Mutual Aid of Greater Atlanta’s lemmy page! 🤣
Do a tally how many leftist and how many right wing instances are in that list.
Haha, what a small pathetic man.
He absolutely is. I have no clue why anyone would defend him at this point.
