I discovered this after upgrading our instance yesterday, which also upgraded all frontends to their latest versions as well. After I did, our Tesseract frontend stopped working and I noticed immediately as it’s been my primary for a while. Initially I thought it was an API version mismatch, but no, it was much worse.
Someone pointed out that the developer of the frontend added an explicit hidden and unmodifiably blacklist which includes any and all instances to the left of Kissinger. There’s a commit which also explains their specious reasoning about our instance specifically, as it seems we’ve been on their shit list for a bit longer than that.
This instance and its admin staff encourages identity politics, groupthink, mob mentality, and extremist solutions to societal problems. Users who advocate violence are not moderated so long as the admins agree with the target. Caution and critical thinking are advised when interacting with this instance or its users.
When you use tesseract to connect to one blacklisted such instance , you just get a message informing you that Tesseract is “incompatible with that instance” which leads one to think of a technical issue, like an API mismatch, rather than the dev being an opinionated coward.
Isn’t it funny how all the software developed by turbolibs, like Piefed and Tesseract, end up with hidden control mechanisms from developers who think they know better than everyone else? That they don’t just think they deserve to tell you what you should think, but they should manipulate you to think it? Isn’t it funny how libs go on about how bad it is to support lemmy due to the ideology of the devs behind it, and yet lemmy has 0 opinions as a software? It does make one think…
Anyway, I forked - it as one does - and disabled the blacklist, but since this is a massively ideologically compromised software, I’ll doubt I’ll keep this frontend up after Lemmy 1.0. I think we’ll bring up mlmym again now that someone’s maintaining it again.
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Lmao they blocked thelemmy.club for a few weeks for seemingly no reason. Unhinged stuff.
If they could hid a blacklist I wonder if they also could hide a coin miner or a backdoor.
With this, the author has forever ruined their own credibility.
Calling a “blacklists.rs” directly in the top level rust source tree hidden is an overstatement. The blacklist is not obfuscated or compressed. It is just a blacklist.
There’s a worse one here
I really hope you don’t get rid of tesseract completely. It’s a very useful tool when moderating and I haven’t found anything with a similar feature set. This dev sucks as a person for doing something this stupid and reactive.
Edit: Apparenly he’s also blocking trans friendly instances too. What a transphobic piece of shit!
What’s wrong with piefed dev? Genuine question. Edit: found it, https://lemmy.ml/post/47306551
Well shit, it was my favourite interface.
That said, not too surprised the dev turned out to be leaning that way.
Tesseract bitches will never know the great Dead by Daylight O.C. they missed
Not to be confused with https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/tesseract.
Most of the instances appear to be tankie instances. I couldn’t find any leftist instances in the list.
yeah it’s all scary boogeyman instances
“I’m not transphobic, trans people are just scary and weird okay” -The Tesseract devs, apparently
Wtf did trans-friendly instances do to them??
I blocked a lot of them because I’m not a fan of seeing the same shit page after page. For instance the flood of selfies recently.
But deciding what a user does and doesn’t want on their feed should be the user’s decision, not some sneaky hidden bullshit pulled by the world’s lamest dev.
Call me crazy but I don’t think that maga.place is a lefty instance
Do a tally how many leftist and how many right wing instances are in that list.
NOOOO!!
That’s clearly just the Mutual Aid of Greater Atlanta’s lemmy page! 🤣
Users who advocate violence are not moderated so long as the admins agree with the target
are they wrong though?
We’re not pacifists, no
Yeah, actually, this is a huge problem I have with the larger Fediverse. Not just one instance.
The dev still approached it the wrong way though. It’s no excuse.
Hitler is dead. Of course Reddit sucks.
But I don’t think we should explicitly advocate for the death of living people.
When the state protects genociders, there is nothing wrong with using violence against them. I would love for every member of the state of Israel to stand trial and be punished legally and appropriately, but there is no state right now that has the power or inclination to do that, so in the meantime I will not condemn Palestinians for using violence to protect themselves and to make it so that Israelis cannot continue to perpetrate genocide.
I would love it if health insurance CEOs were made to stand trial for denying coverage to dying people, but there is no court in America that will hear that case, so in the meantime I will not condemn the Luigis of this world for taking justice into their own hands.
Give me a state that actually delivers justice for everyday people instead of the rich, and I will advocate for non-violence.
Where is there any political group or faction today that doesn’t advocate for and celebrate violence? I honestly don’t see any. It’s just a question of against who and what justification is used.
And the people in charge? They are slowly killing us, the whole world. But oh do not advocate for violence while we fund and support these wars.
Where is there any political group or faction today that doesn’t advocate for and celebrate violence?
Yeah… That is not how the vast majority of the population thinks. Even if it seems that way online.
I can’t believe I’m debating “well every political faction advocates for murder, explicitly, so why shouldn’t we?” I don’t even know where to begin, there.
Do you not think a vote for Trump is not just advocating for violence, but a real action supporting violence? What about the liberals who support Israel’s genocide? Is that not advocating for violence? Those who deny climate change? Antivaxxers who refuse to mask up or obstruct medical policy? Those who who celebrate the Ukrainian strikes into Russia and deny diplomatic solutions?
If it helps, I do agree with you, that alone is no justification. The only justification for murder is to save an innocent life. For example if violence was the only practically viable solution to topple a murderous regime, and would actually be able to succeed. If there are other non violent ways, you have to take those. But they made sure there are none.
Don’t attribute wholesale to malice what can be perfectly explained by either stupidity or self-interest. Besides, I don’t think that the average American is concerned overmuch with US external affairs - unless it affects the price of gas.
Haha, Hanlon’s razor, very true. But I’m more of a utilitarian concerned with the consequences the older I get. I don’t blame people for being lied to or brainwashed or being stupid, but the result is still support for violence.
So brave very adult.
Cops, landlords, and (x)illionaires have withheld their humanity to “make a living” and so the same sentiment should be expressed towards them.
I want my Fediverse like Reddit, where you get banned for saying Hitler should have been killed but white supremacism is allowed.
On lemmy we get comments saying people with camera glasses (or whatever you call them) should be physically assaulted instead.
Like, the bar for calling for violence on lemmy is horrifically low.
It’s not that low. Just don’t be a disgusting billionaire fascist apologist, or wear state surveillance cameras on your face, and we’ll get along just fine. Next you’ll be complaining about flock cameras being vandalised? Allowing secret surveillance of citizens is a hallmark of authoritarianism that all of us as human beings have a duty to resist.
Not wrong, but the target of violence being fascists is not a bad thing. The Dev is hiding that fact and pretending all violence is inherently equal. It’s the same logic Zionists use to demonize Palestinian resistance groups.
You don’t understand! Freedom of speech is only good when it’s freedom of their speech!
But seriously, this recent shift of project leads deciding what users should and shouldn’t see is concerning. And honestly, I could give them the benefit of the doubt if they added it as some sort of opt-in list. But no.
They will force their narrative down the users’ throats.
I might not always agree with db0, the Anarchist Flotilla, or the “Tankie Triad”. But whatever shakes Lemmy right now, consider me an ally. Whatever these egocentric folks attempt to create, it is everything Lemmy was created to replace.
Also, that’s a lovely list they made of places to follow.
Devs like this do not belong with open source projects.
I agree. People who do this are emotionally compromised and in my opinion can’t be trusted when writing code. There was a different developer who through similar political convictions made his software wipe PCs that were in Russia or Belarus. Maybe that seems more extreme but it comes from the same politically charged and emotionally compromised place.
Fascist bootlickers you mean?
Neo Nazis
Fuck me…
ugggggghhhhhh
Our ‘liberals’ aren’t liberal.
That comment you highlighted just reads like a jordanlund modlog defending genocide by way of banning someone who says ‘genociders should die instead, actually’.
They can’t help themselves from being elitists.
Its like they’re hardwired, they’re so incredibly insecure that they front this moral superiority god complex, and anything that challenges the actual logic of that morality is fundamentally evil… because they can’t be wrong.
These people are confused… they’re reactionary conservatives, they’re wannabe politicos/consultants… literal thought police, frame keepers of the overton window.
I don’t really know who Jordan Lund is or what he’s about, my first thought was Jordan Peterson who I think is a pretty unhinged UofT professor, someone cut together this rant about “rat desire” from that guy, it’s quite funny with or without context. I just looked up if that was the same Jordan, and the only rat related Lund is a Zoe Lund, https://www.zoelund.com/lund/rats/rats.html
Anyway I keep seeing their names pop up and I have no real context for what they are about, and looking at Google results it’s just some whitewashed stuff about J Lund doing Shakespeare.
So what is up with that guy?
… go search through the power tripping bastards comm.
Or lemmy.world support comm or their main lemmyworld(sp) comm
Ah I thought he was a normie not a fediverse person
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0526185/
Literally this guy? I know his face
Yeah that’s not… the same guy, no.
I am genuienly amused that you are this curious about him. Sorry I was a bit grumpy earlier.
Because I care about you…
... be warned, he literally is the perfect visual stereotype of a neckbeard
https://www.opb.org/news/series/racenw/race-northwest-united-states-jordan-lund-portland/
Hilary stan, actively worked against Bernie when it could have helped him, then decided Bernie was neat after there was no realistic chance he could be Presidenr.
Cares more about his neighborhood being quiet than the lives of black people, thinks protests should only be held in areas designated and pre planned by the authorities.
Is seemingly unaware that … the reason Portland doesn’t have much black population these days is because I5 got built directly through the neighborhood they lived in, and everywhere else in Portland was redlined, so they had to leave, they weren’t welcome anymore.
But that doesn’t matter to him, because he works in tech, and that’s all ancient history.
What he notices… is anti-male bias. Surely its simply because he kept incorrectly calling his trillby a fedora, for a while.
On that note… If I can websearch this in 2 seconds… whatever, mods remove this if this is too much:
https://www.stackforce.co/talent/6a5dfa305b4c16902e24eed9
Yeah he ran a betting website for a while…
Then went to work for Adobe Marketo, for a decade.
You know… advertisements. Social Media. How to convince people they should subscribe to something, maybe even how to moderate something like a Reddit community, maybe. Who knows!
Now he’s retired and owns a book store, aw, how Portland.
In summary, he’s got 10+ years of corporate social media management under his belt, is painfully white, thus ridden with misplaced white guilt, and a Hilary Clinton style Zionist.
There. Because you asked.
be warned, he literally is the perfect visual stereotype of a neckbeard
He’s the WoW guy from South Park?
No, not the actor. Just same name
Think of your stereotypical power-tripping Reddit mod, in both behaviour and appearance. That’s Jordan. He is a moderator of several lemmy.world communities and never faces any consequences for being a PTB since he has the backing of LW’s admin team.
cough
Pretty sure he is the LW ‘admin team’
cough
He at the very least has full access to the LW bot that can do most of the functions of an admin.
Everything is coming together thank you
There’s a commit which also explains their specious reasoning about our instance specifically, as it seems we’ve been on their shit list for a bit longer than that.
As of that commit (April 29) the instance blacklist didn’t even include lemmy.ml !
… but i see a month later they added us in this commit, while removing a large list of specific users and communities which they were also previously hiding content from.
Damn, missed the hall of fame club.
I fucking made world melt down for a week and I’m not on there.
The injustice!
Honestly I’m kind of offended, and baffled you aren’t on there either.
Ridiculous, non of my alts are either.
Geneva_convenience is on there. What the fuck.
My self image is shattered
What’s funniest is that I seem to be mentioned by name but not actually added, lol
Edit: I’m not actually mentioned, I misunderstood a terminal search.
Sucks to suck.
It really does.
I guess I’ll retVrn to posting PETA protests till someone starts a slap fight.
wow, i expected you’d make the cut, but i guess you just weren’t posting hard enough.
meanwhile @CARCOSA@hexbear.net is not only on the list but was honored with a personal regex and a comment line!
Honestly surprised, considering how much reactionaries hate me. Still, shout out to @CARCOSA@hexbear.net !
Well well well
export let CONTENT_WARNING_INSTANCES = [ { domain: "lemmy.dbzer0.com", reason: `This instance and its admin staff encourages identity politics, groupthink, mob mentality, and extremist solutions to societal problems. Users who advocate violence are not moderated so long as the admins agree with the target. Caution and critical thinking are advised when interacting with this instance or its users.` }, ]identity politics
GODDAMMIT I HAVE TO FIGHT THE WOKE WITH MY CODE!!!
I consider it a badge of honor that we were the OG “identity politics, groupthink, mob mentality, and extremist solutions to societal problems” instance before it was cool.
Solidarity brother
There is a good reason to have crowdsourced filters for spammers and chuds, but this shit ain’t the way.
