Summary
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez denied claims that she is secretly wealthy, stating she is worth less than $500,000 and doesn’t trade stocks or take corporate money.
Her financial disclosures show modest savings and student debt.
Some conservatives on X, despite opposing her politics, praised her perceived integrity.
Accusations of political corruption have surged online, partly fueled by Elon Musk.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the internet manifest:
1- blame her for having millions due to kickbacks
2- when she proves that her net worth is less than 500K make fun of her for having too little money
There’s many things that expose the Right Wing Grift.
When AOC was first elected they mocked her for being a Bartender who “rose above her station”
What more proof do you need that the American Dream is bullshit
They call at that because you’d have to be asleep to believe it.
When it’s a teacher - she reminds me of that mean lady who failed me
When it’s a doctor - they’re pushing a vaxxer agenda
When it’s an engineer - he’ll be a bad negotiator
When it’s a scientist - we’ve gotta do what? No thanks.
When it’s a lawyer - ah perfect they make everything better
I mean if you take the internet as a monolith, you’ll find contradictions every where. Some people will hate A because of B, some people will hate A because of C, but either way A is getting hate for both B and C.
So either there are millions of people online with different opinions but the crowd looks the same, or there is one very, very busy troll who is running all the accounts.
~help I’m so tired they won’t give me a break to pee~
One busy troll? What makes you think it is just one person? Maybe if it was the 1990’s you might have had a single troll per social platform but we are way past that point. A real troll would even be considered high quality with so many bot accounts nowadays.
The trolls are the people who watch cable news
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Because it’s ONE SIDED around here, just like Reddit… if a Republican said this EXACT same thing, they’d be crucified.
Median property value in DC is $705,000.
She’s likely living paycheck to paycheck as a sitting member of Congress. I like it.
Finally, some actual representation.
Shes so goddamn normal it’s jarring
I love AOC. I’d vote for her in a heartbeat in primary and general elections. Now, whether she makes it to the general depends on the DNC, and I have no faith that the political consultant/establishment class will let anything remotely progressive through. No money to be made.
I guess the only way forward would be to vote for her in the primaries to such a degree that the Dems have not choice but to confirm her through.
Dems have no choice but to confirm her through.
That was the Bernie plan in 2016 & 2020 during the primaries. Clinton had the support of the established Democratic party and with superdelegates Clinton took a commanding lead. Similar situation with Biden, most dropped out before Super Tuesday and endorsed him.
Now both of these instances could be considered “smart politics”. If you’ve got the political maneuvering to win the primary, then maybe you’ve got the same maneuvering to win the general.
It didn’t work out for Clinton. It did work out for Biden.
When we look at our most recent election, it’s clear there was a little bit more of a rift, but Harris was chosen and there was no primary.
Now, some of this is simplified and there is plenty to argue. But suffice to say we can’t just vote for AOC “so much” that she’ll win. I don’t see the Democratic party supporting her.
Now it’s too early to talk about 2028 realistically and a lot can change between now and then, but if she were running today she’d have my vote.
Or, get so much grassroots activism going that you can start a new party for her.
You might go a round of everyone flaming, “nooo! You have to support Dems or Repbs will win!!1!” But if enough people try a vote for your new party, next time it might have a chance.
She doesn’t have to start a new party. The left side of the dems should just use The Tea Party and MAGA playbook. They co-opted the GOP by pushing out Republican incumbents in local elections first. A shitton of money from the far-right went to these smaller elections. Then they moved on up and replaced Republican state senators. They created enough momentum that Trump became a viable candidate.
Push enough incumbents out and the Democrats have to take the left seriously. Plus it will normalize left wing rhetoric and policies among the populace. Screaming “cOmmUniSm” won’t work anymore when the people have seen these policies being implemented in their own communities.
Maybe my experience is biased but I don’t think shouting communism works as well as it used to anyways. Plenty of young people will hear “Communist? Then I’ll vote for her!” And the old people are getting exhausted with political hyperbole - “Communist? Yeah like every liberal what else is new.”
So, how many decades will this take, and where are we gonna get this shitton of money?
The tea party did it in two Obama terms. And the money has to come from the public. Starting a viable third party isn’t going to be easier or cheaper.
Taking over an existing party would probably be easier.
The green party is currently a shell designed to launder foreign influence in US elections. But there ain’t a lot of green party members, and fewer still vote in their party’s primaries. Compared to getting the Democratic party to move in a direction other than right or starting an entire new party from scratch, stealing the green party might be doable. Time it right and you can even make russia waste time, money, and effort trying to keep it.
And it’s not like Democrats are ever going to hold honest primaries again.
You could steal the green party but it’s not going to get you anything. You’d have to do the exact same thing of building up the party from local, to state, to federal offices. And you don’t get to drag along the people who are lifelong Democrats. You’d have to build up the green party and then take on both the Democrats and Republicans.
You could steal the green party but it’s not going to get you anything. You’d have to do the exact same thing of building up the party from local, to state, to federal offices.
Without the full might of the Democratic Party stopping you from winning primaries.
You’d have to build up the green party and then take on both the Democrats and Republicans.
As opposed to having no party and having to take on both Democrats and Republicans.
Democrats can’t put their putrid ancient mummy thumbs on the scale for general elections, unlike primaries, if we ever have any of those ever again.
She needs to win a senate seat first. I think schumer should retire, and she should run for the seat. If she can win, we can see how many red districts went for her.
There is one group of people who both share the ire of most people and deserve it: The ultra rich.
I’ve had rednecks tell me they disagreed with Bernie on a lot but they liked how he hated billionaires. Ben Shapiro’s gaggle of yes-men gave him grief for criticizing Luigi.
If votes count for anything anymore a smart, effective political party would be able to capitalize on this universal hatred.
Sadly, we have the Democrats.
That’s because she’s actually trying to help people, and you don’t get rich helping people.
Well obviously you do. Or she isnt trying to help people. She admitted to having hundreds of thousands of dollars
You have no idea what you’re talking about. 500k in assets is like a decent house that you’re still making payments on, a couple cars, and some 401k savings. People like that are not the problem. That lifestyle should be the base level for every single American, imo.
Ikr? My mom is worth that probably but we barely making it.
It should be, but it isn’t. You’re out of touch with what most people have.
It seems like you may be conflating having ~$500k net worth with being rich, which may not have been your intent, but it seemed that way based on context. I think what the other responder is getting at is that AOC is not rich. She may have a house, a car, and some retirement saved up. All of those are assets, but they do not translate into the kind of liquidity that many other American politicians have.
She was working class before she entered into politics, and some would argue that she still is based on her work and advocacy. I don’t want to sound like I’m accusing your of anything, or putting words in your mouth, because that’s not my intent; I just want to point out a common belief held by a lot of Americans. Lumping someone in with the rich and then holding them in contempt merely because that person is richer than you is exactly the kind of us-versus-them mentality the ruling class wants us to have.
She is rich. There is nothing inherently wrong with being rich. There is something wrong with being a lawmaker who is so out of touch with poor people that you dont realize your own privileges
There is something wrong with being a lawmaker who is so out of touch with poor people that you dont realize your own privileges
What are you basing this on? Did you personally speak with AOC?
In the article she said she has hundreds of thousands of dollars and also said she’s not rich
Edit: she didn’t say she’s not rich. She said she’s not a millionaire
Can you explain why you think she is out of touch with poor people? I’m genuinely curious, because you may know something about her that I don’t, and if she’s as secretly two-faced as Sinema and Manchin, or has done something to actively denigrate or undermine the working class, I want to be informed.
I understand that most poor people feel overlooked, ignored, and exploited by the rich, and that’s because that is exactly what they do–but their greatest trick is to make us think that it’s not their fault that we are poor. Please look again to the last sentence of my reply: Holding someone in contempt merely because they are richer than you is exactly what the billionaires want you to do, because it distracts and redirects anger away from them, and is just another tool they use to make the working class fight amongst themselves.
She isnt richer than me. I have more money than she does.
I dont care if someone has money. That doesn’t make you a bad person. The issue is that she isnt aware how rich she is. That’s out of touch with reality.
Sure, but your claim rests on a specific definition of what rich is. The notion that her gross assets, not liquidity, are such that she is in not of the working class (her assets produce enough wealth to live upon) glosses over the obscene wealth, corruption, and hoarding that the purpose of the conversation is trying to convey. “Yeah, but other Americans are poorer” is whataboutism in the face of someone interested in adresssing wealth disparity.
If you’re surrounded by people who are millionaires and that becomes your definition of “rich” then you’ve become so out of touch with reality.
There is a difference between someone with hundreds of thousands of dollars of net worth and someone with billions. Both are fucking rich.
The middle class is so far gone in the US that people like you have difficulty remembering what it looks like.
Your idea of a middle class is about as fictional as the idea of the American Dream.
If you can get bankrupted by an illness, you’re not rich.
Yup and I can say by experience that even making 180K at a fortune 500 company, that makes you still not rich when medical shit goes south.
By that definition, nobody is rich. You can spend 200 billion dollars trying to fight cancer and still die.
There was a study a while back asking Republican House members how they defined “middle class”.
$450,000.
https://www.newsweek.com/tax-cuts-republicans-middle-class-trump-701094
Keep that in mind when you hear people throwing around “middle class tax cuts”.
Where are you from that you think hundreds of thousands of dollars in the US is “wealth”?
Do you know that 500k in the US doesn’t even get you a nice house? You need literally around 2 mil saved up JUST TO RETIRE BEFORE 70.
She is helping people in that she serves her constituency, she is a representative, nobody expects her to donate her money to anyone, but she does raise money in fundraisers all the time. She helps more people than most of her peers in congress. These fundraisers do NOT make you money, you may have some very backwards ideas about how money works in politics. Even the right respects AOC to an unusual degree, like they do Bernie Sanders. At least about policy and messaging. They care more about people than party.
It’s clear he didn’t read the article, but it’s necessary to point out she doesn’t even 500k- it is assets, which means she’s as far down the hole as the rest of us.
I mean… 200K-300K-ish can get you a
livablesurvivable place in an okay part of Philly… like there is no “drug dealers” in my area, its not lile “the wire”, its not Baltimore, it just… “Okay” not good, not bad.(15 years ago it was like 100K to 200K). I’ve never heard a gunshot in 15 years living here (or maybe I did and though it was fireworks, who knows). My mom got robbed once. That’s it. Its not a terrible place to live. I mean, I haven’t died, so… 🤷♂️But yea, there are places (like NYC) that’s unlivable, housing in NYC is just insane, its why we had to move out of NYC. (Brooklyn btw)
With that amount of money she could not stop working now and live comfortably off of her funds for the rest of her life in the US. She is not rich.
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Damn man, learn to read an article.
Americans are obligated to save individually for retirement and tax-incentivized to stockpile appreciating assets in personal trusts, in anticipation of becoming too old to work.
It is not that unusual at all for a 30-something professional earning a six-figure salary to set aside 10-20% of that in savings. I suppose you can argue Congresscritters are overpaid and therefore anyone in a federally elected office is de facto not trying to help people. But then you’ve got a problem with how we handle retirement, not with how AOC handles her politics.
Obligated? Most people have to wipe out their retirement funds when they get sick or have to bury their parents
Yes, that’s what they meant by “obligated.”
Our system as it currently exists forces, or “obligates,” people to have large rainy day funds.
Man I miss when we had pensions. Wish we had more unions.
The trick is taking them away slowly enough that every new generation of workers doesn’t even know what they’re missing.
Line must go up, after all.
What’s that, we’re being outpaced on a global scale such that our under-educated workers will soon no longer be able to rely on “We speak English without an accent?”
That’s a problem for after I’m dead, so I’m not worried about it!
Yeah, I really hope the younger generation gets their shit together and do what my generation couldn’t.
Man tried once at my software/engineering place, did not get very far at all unfortunately.
Very few people have this
Right, so you’re just confrontationally agreeing with UnderpantsWeevil and me.
Too bad she doesn’t have hundreds of thousands of MILLIONS of dollars or she could really help the little guy like Musk and his administration.
Honestly this is comedy gold,
The politician you are most interested in talking about in this moment, right now with this future quickly unfolding, with respect to scamming the american people… is AOC???
ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha I hope I choke on my popcorn while laughing bitterly so I don’t have to live through the stupidest possible future for my country
This is an article about AOC. Dont play whataboutism
Why do you hate women?
wow bro, just because you think women are objects doesn’t mean you hate them.
like by that logic are you saying I hate my car?
(i mean I do hate owning a car, seperate discussion tho)
I objectify women because I love them why can’t all the women making fun of me respect that.
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oh look there is a tiny little violin in here for jd too!
The pot accuses a bottle of milk of looking black
AOC is a prodigious fundraiser with a significant national following. She might only have a half-million in the bank, but her name and her reputation are worth orders of magnitude more.
Conservatives have a hard time believing someone like that isn’t getting rich quick on $AOCCoin or LeftyBear merch offerings.
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Conservatives have a hard time believing someone like that isn’t getting rich quick on $AOCCoin or LeftyBear merch offerings.
Being dishonest you have a bigger selection of instruments to gain power. So politicians are more likely to be dishonest than the average person. And then a dishonest person would use the opportunity.
Anyway, cool for AOC to be honest, but unfortunately her views (specifically support of MMT) are a certain way to nuke the economy of the USA.
If we detach ourselves from the emotional part (suicides, hunger deaths), it may even be liberating, if USD as a currency takes a 10000x inflation in a year or so, while big businesses reliant on American system of connections grown by decades of stability die. US main capital is still human capital, competent people and their knowledge. No hyperinflation will kill that, if recovery is quick enough.
Except that’s not the way people like AOC promise.
Anyway, cool for AOC to be honest, but unfortunately her views (specifically support of MMT) are a certain way to nuke the economy of the USA.
The US economy gets nuked every 8-12 years thanks to private equity and boom-bust capital trends. MMT just moves the ball out of the hands of a cartel of hedge funds and into the hands of the US Treasury. I’ll happily agree that its not sufficient to solving the problem of malinvestment and industrial waste. But that’s precisely because its an extension of Keynesian-cum-Friedmanite monetary theory of economics. At some point, you have to take account of real assets, not just float around fictitious capital.
if USD as a currency takes a 10000x inflation in a year
You don’t get inflation like that under Eisenhower/Carter era tax laws. MMT, in practice, is still predicated on some degree of currency recapture. You’re just replacing credit elasticity through private lenders with spending elasticity through public spenders. “Here’s a $500k loan, build a house and pay me back at 6% APY” isn’t meaningfully different than “Here’s a $500k grant, built a house and your builders are going to pay me back 6% VAT”.
Except that’s not the way people like AOC promise.
AOC promises a large public investment in value-adding infrastructure. She’s just proposing direct payment rather than tax-incentivized private investment.
She’s just proposing
direct paymentactually investing in Americans rather thantax-incentivized private investmenttaking bribes to give all the public coffers to corpo goons.ftfy
The US economy gets nuked every 8-12 years
Reminds me of that Hashek quote about “sir, you’ve taken the pollen of my innocence” from a girl whose shoulder a boy touched.
Anyway, maybe you’re right.
Anyway, cool for AOC to be honest, but unfortunately her views (specifically support of MMT) are a certain way to nuke the economy of the USA.
I didn’t realize it was that part of the circus where conservative centrists clowns do a bit for us to laugh at them for.
Neither did I, turns out that yes and you are the clown. Why - because you’ve used a long comment for the sole purpose of “friend-or-foe” determination. I dunno how to call people doing that. If all this was incomprehensible for you - I’m not a conservative.
Im not the clown wasting their breath attacking one of the only politicians who is actually resisting the fascist takeover and destruction of the US government literally happening as you rant emptily about “inveitable” eventualities of AOC’s policies.
You could not pick a better moment to demonstrate how fundamentally unserious your politics are in this context.
Wake the fuck up and realize who your actual enemies are, you dangerous fool.
It feels like all the people here criticizing her for fantastical or illogical reasons (usually a mixture of both) are just envious of her.
They would all also get hilariously demolished by her on a debate about policy and political strategy.
…which honestly it never gets old for me watching progressive leaders like her dress down people like this to their face.
The economy is getting nuked right now. The tariff dump and pump is just the beginning.
Trump coin is already a thing, and his minions now run the SEC. By the time Trump leaves office, the monetary theory we’re operating under won’t even be in President AOC’s hands anymore. The full faith and credit of the US government will be gone.
I’m optimistic about US economy and pessimistic about what Trump foreign policy does to ongoing wars.
So then if the economy does get worse for the average person over the next 3.5 years, would you reconsider voting for AOC?
I’m not a US resident or citizen. Haven’t even been on the North American continent.
3.5 years is a lot of time.
Just typical. No matter what I say, you won’t vote for AOC. 😜
I hope that AOC has a security detail, a go bag and plan, and an ideal state to reside in. It is my expectation for Yarvin’s Cabel to try to capture or assasinate her at some point, since she is one of the few major lightning rods to be the president of a Free America. We will need great people to organize the defense of our people against the fascist agenda.
Bernie, AOC, others, stay safe and strong. 🖖
I’m not in the know. What is “Yarvin’s Cabel”?
That is the name that I have given to the authors of Project 2025. It is basically a playbook on how to take over America and to dismantle democracy. Curtis Yarvin is likely the leader of the bunch in a ideological sense. If Trump and Elon is disposed, it would be problematic if Yarvin and his friends didn’t get caught in the net. We have to make a point that America’s takeover was a planned group effort.
Project 2025 - Mandate for Leadership, PDF at the Internet Archive
Thank you, kind Internet stranger!
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Accusations of political corruption have surged online, partly fueled by Elon Musk.
Lol, says the guy who’s currently at the top of corrupting world-politics…
AKA, every accusation is a confession
Wait… Muskrat is accusing her of being rich?
It’s pretty absurd that y’all qaeda bitch about all the money that (insert lib politician) makes while throwing money or votes at billionaires who then turn around and accuse lib politicians like AOC or Sanders of being rich.
Can we all please notice how under capitalism, you can refer to people being ‘worth’ a dollar amount? Money is something you have, it says nothing about who you are. I’m fine with having an amount of wealth, but your worth is not measured in dollars, that’s fucked
I get what you’re saying. But the term is generally used to clarify that the amount quoted reflects the person’s assets and their value, and not just their liquid cash. Which a lot of people in this thread seem to not understand. I agree we should probably use a different term for that, but for now it works as easy short hand for “this is is how much this person owns in assets and liquid cash combined.”
I might be wrong on this, but I think the term also includes income into the account, like how much someone brings in per year. And it might also subtract debt, though I’m not sure of either of those.
Just in case anyone is curious- It’s assets minus liabilities, so income is not directly included, but debt does get subtracted.
I can agree with both comments here. It can be a useful to talk about, but the name of it is icky, especially if you’re tying your worth as a person to it (which definitely happens).
I agree we should probably use a different term for that,
That’s literally all I said. I know what it means
They’re so concerned about profittering they support a guy that was giving millions directly from China, took millions in goverment funds by making secret service stay in his hotels and charging them 1000x the rate of any other guest. This guy’s will pay their life down for the biggest kleptocrat in US history, but yeah AOC needs to be monitored.
That’s still 450k more than me
Look at Oysters Rockefeller over here showing off their 50g’s
About 500k more than me
Comfortable but not extravagantly wealthy from
bribeslobbying. I’m okay with this.Honestly 500k net in the DC area is low if anything.
It’s probably low in any metro area in 2025, sadly.
That’s a crazy amount of money. I’ve never had even 10% of that
