Wouldn’t Windows 11 be the worst app on your Windows 11 PC? 🤔
It’s probably just teams, right?
It’s all sharepoint under the hood.
Only for some file storage. The Teams app is a memory hog and hot garbage all on its own.
I was joking for sure. Most of M365 is a hodgepodge of Exchange and Sharepoint, including Teams. But that’s all server side, so doesn’t matter to the client. They could make a the clients not terrible even if the server is hot garbage.
bitlocker and the encrypt without permission resulting in loss of all files still takes the cake for me
windows update boot loop is a close second
I once read a story about a Teams team in microslop Teams, was hilarious.
Technically… Yes.
Oh it’s doing plenty. Just not for you.
Not too sure about the ‘doing nothing’ part.
True.
People using Meta’s products are masochists.
“Yes, daddy, please violate my privacy even more and manipulate me into hating myself and making me addicted to your shit.”
Well most people dont have any other option since 100% of your friends and families are exclusively on WhatsApp , whatsapp had early mover advantage it was free and easy to use so now everyone just uses it
so did my-space
Social media and chat applications are different, better comparison would be Skype or MSN Messenger or AIM.
And how long did it stay around even though there was a better option? And how much more penetration into everyday life does WhatsApp have today? Right.
If your friends can not be arsed to install an app on their phone for you, I got some bad news.
Actually it’s not just friends ( we did shifted to telegram a while back ) most people where I am from use WhatsApp grand parents to grand parents to even some college official group ( yeah Ik )
My government and employers would not move away from WhatsApp, so, short of lobbying, I am forced to remain.
Anything owned by facebook is already the worst app on whatever device it’s installed on.
My Windows 11 PC? Where?
My Linux PC doesn’t have WhatsApp installed. Someone tell me where this Windows 11 PC is so I can retrieve it and install Linux on that too.
No, the worst app is Windows 11. My parents have some all-in-one HP PC. It has some Intel laptop processor from about 8 years ago, 16GB of ram, (upgraded from 8), and a wheezy 256GB spinning drive, running Win10 adequately.
After being bombarded with “upgrade to Windows 11! It’s easy and fun!!” notifications, they did so, and of course their PC is woefully underpowered for the job.
I log in remotely and check what’s running and the OS is paging to the swap file constantly. [Edit: and I mean, to the point where opening an application takes 60 seconds of disk thrashing for a window to appear]
I had to get a de-bloat script and turn off about 50 Microsoft “essential services”. The biggest hog out of them all was copilot, which was using about 4GB while sitting there idle.
I have no doubt that I’m going to have to run that script every month as everything gets “repaired”, until I can get back to their place and put a SSD in and maybe install some flavour of Linux.
I had to get a de-bloat script and turn off about 50 Microsoft “essential services”
And then a Windows Update comes along…
Install Linux, Problem Solved.
My MILs computer has 8 GB of RAM… I have not yet convinced her she needs a new computer, but I did just install windows 10 iot ltsc on it so it will at least get security patches.
put that script in task scheduler on repeat. let it run every day
If you put in an ssd, Windows should run just fine.
Yeah, it’s on the to-do list. I still don’t like it endlessly paging though. I also hate Microsoft’s push to get everyone on win11 even if their PC’s will run like asthmatic slugs.
I have found every single PC of mine has benefitted from running Win11. Even those that don’t meet the criteria. It’s a solid OS.
If they were happy with 10 give them Mint, they won’t even notice if you skin it.
This person fundamentally misunderstands RAM on Windows…
Apps reserve a portion of the total available memory. That memory is not necessarily in use. Memory not in use will still be available to other applications as soon as the system reallocates it when a given application needs more. Usually of you have more RAM, applications will reserve more of it. You can check a better explanation of your current memory usage in the windows resource monitor. You’ll see memory allocated, memory in use, and memory being used to cache data (which windows does to reduce disk reads and writes), as well as memory completely unallocated. Chrome can easily allocate 1/3 of your total available memory by the third tab, but that doesn’t mean chrome is actually using that much.
I mean it’s an electron app. Maybe the number is inflated, but it’s still a ton. The previous number he compared to (100mb) would be equally inflated, so it’s fair
I’m shocked to learn that a dedicated browser always running in the background for a chat app uses 100x the memory and resources
I’m not using it nor the Facebook Messenger app, but rather their messenger in the browser. Meta is an evil necessity in my country because the businesses I deal with are mostly active on Facebook, and almost all people are tethered to it, and I have to use a facade where I don’t have to give Zuck anything about myself.
I don’t know who is doing the testing, but they don’t know what they’re doing. 313MB
Look at mr moneybags over here
The screenshot is from my $300 HP Elite Desk 4. It doesn’t support Win11, but I installed it anyway.
Oh, you meant Claude. I use the free version to help me write automations and dashboards for Home Assistant. I have never given Anthropic a dime.
You cannot fish in lemmy as it’s a website. Thank you for your understanding.
Can I at least get my bait back?
Your setup, with Win11 and Claude is the bait.
Fable is so expensive. I made a Blinko notes desktop app on Opencode last night using Minimax M3 and it would have cost me 3000usd if I was using Fable.
Why Edge? (Still Chrome)
Why Claude?
WhatsApp depends on how much TEAM your PC has and what other software is running in order to change its cache. Maybe the tester/author has a lot of RAM and saw this “huge” usage.
Personally, if I bought 64GB of RAM, by god I’m going to use it!! Why buy lots of RAM and be stingy??
Just because you have RAM to give, doesn’t mean an app should use it. An app that is using way more than it typically uses often means the app has lost control in some way (a memory leak). An app that has lost control will usually have performance or other issues.
Well, fine, right, I’m not saying I want something to use all 64GB, but I’m not going to be upset if something used a few GB. Chrome OS that way where it’ll eat up all avail RAM, hence why so many memes. A lot of applications are written poorly and yes, RAM utilization will grow, but again, if I’ve got it, in many cases might as well use it.
Apps can reserve RAM without using it. It is totally normal for apps to do this on every modern OS. Linux included. The amount of RAM reserved is not the same as the amount of RAM that app is using. And apps don’t have a strangle hold on R being reserved unless that RAM is actually in use. Windows will automatically take reserved RAM away from one app and give it to another app that is out of its reserve space. This is all very normal.
It’s something I’ve always done. I pick an app. ie: Firefox but then at some point I’ll go to the alternative to see if it has something I might have missed. This way I can evaluate it myself rather than rely on someone else’s bias. I’ve been using Edge for about 3 months now, and it really isn’t that bad. I’m going to try Brave next.
As I mentioned earlier, I use the free version of Claude to help me with automations and dashboards in Home Assistant. It really is an incredible tool.
I don’t know what that means. How much TEAM my PC has? You saw what Edge was using. This PC, which basically is a boy doing a man’s job, has 32GB of RAM. It runs all of my ‘ARR’ apps.
I just don’t see the issue with Whatsapp. It runs perfectly fine of my crappy HP I7 7700 PC.
Ohhh my bad, stupid swipe text corrected ram to team I guess…
Edge isn’t a bad browser as far as functionality goes, but far from secure. But it’s gotta I discovered vertical tabs while at work, so I added that extension in Firefox and now that’s native too.
Btw, my PC has 32gb of ram where WhatsApp is using 320MB.
Oh. OK well that’s good! Idk, maybe the tester left the PC running really long or just ran a bunch of convos to rack up RAM usage for the article
When I reported my Whatsapp was using 320MB it had been running for a week. The writer is just not that good when it comes to analyzing technology. He wants to trigger outrage, which it seems he has done.
Preferred by scammers
What Windows 11 pc exactly? 😎
That one.
Ew. Why not use the browser version
There is no other version. An electron app is a browser app.
You can still just open it in the browser
How will that help?
Pah, only 1.2GB? How can it even move a mouse pointer or accept keyboard input?!?
