I’ve been seeing more and more tradies respond to customer enquiries with llm generated emails. AFAIC that instantly means you get shitlisted.
If you can’t even write a fucking email you are not working on my house. This is supposed to be your field of expertise and you outsourced even talking about it to something using fucking reddit and facebook as sources
As far as some costumers are concerned talking to them is all we should do. As though they are our only costumers.
No! We have shit to do! Being on the phone holding your hand all day doesn’t get us paid.
“There’s no way you could write a 10 page paper without ChatGPT”
Pulls out a novel
Pulls out medical journal
Pulls out documentation for home insurance
chatgpt please summarize all 3 of these
This novel is about a vampire who found love
This medical journal suggests Cancer is bad
This home insurance covers fire damage
i just read 3 whole books in a hour everyone, its so easy
Yup. This applies to every technology post-enlightenment technology. We didn’t need cars, we didn’t need the internet, we didn’t need phones, we didn’t need TV, we didn’t need X-rays, we didn’t need pharmaceuticals, we didn’t need automated production and we certainly don’t need anything to think for us.
As people here might notice over time, I write long comments on Lemmy without even noticing, all without AI. I feel like a mutant, though not so much in a good way.
People used to call me the dictionary for having a ton of useless information, but now they call me chatgpt :(
I genuinely worked hard on learning an encyclopedia worth of knowledge and fun facts and I get compared to a hallucinating predictive text model. SMHOAT
That’s crazy—It seems implausible to do that. As far as it goes for me—I can’t imagine writing comments without AI—There’s just so many words—No one has time for that.
The longer comments I write get the fewest upvotes.
Maybe you should turn your comments to tiktok dances?
Maybe people just don’t like your opinions
The Feeling of Power by Isaac Asimov: https://archive.org/download/TheFeelingOfPower/The Feeling of Power.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feeling_of_Power
Back then, you’d find usable info on the web. Now everything is buried under centuries worth of AI slop read. Plus it was more accepted to have blind spots on your knowledge. Now everyone using AI raises some bars and the only sucker not using AI gets a worse grade.
Also most professors try offsetting the cheaters by increasing exam weights, meanwhile people using chatbots finish all their homeworks in like 5 minutes and spend rest of their time studying for the test specifically.
Things were already pretty bad under ‘clickbait’ slop, AI has certainly exacerbated the issue.
What they mean is “I couldn’t write a 10-page paper without ChatGPT.” And because they have very limited imaginations, they can’t imagine other people being able to do something they can’t.
And because they have very limited imaginations, they can’t imagine other people being able to do something they can’t.
Right wing “thought” in a nutshell right here too
“If I have not experienced [Insert thing here] it doesn’t exist and is just a myth”
Unironically, this. 👆
Too many people can’t see beyond their own little bubble, and have a difficult time if someone challenges their myopic world view. e.g. I see this all too often in software development where developers will make their software “opinionated” (read: it does what they want it to do, and not what’s necessarily good for their users).
I digress. 😅
I agree on software to a point. You need some opinions. “everyone will use a mouse and keyboard, fuck controller users” is bad. But you need some direction to get things done “what system will this run on? Everything! So I’m expected to make a rts game similar to statcraft 2 able to be played on the switch? Yes! And controllable with dpad, joystick, mouse, keyboard, touchpad and a paraplegic wheelchair? Yes! Ok, I’ll need 20 years to write this, and I’ll quit in 4”
Im exaggerating but there does need to limits. “this will be playable on Playstation 5” or “this will require a 2080 or better, we are not supporting a voodoo2 vfx card…”
I like opinionated software with very few exceptions like Apple killing save as
In other words: you like opinionated software so long as they share your opinion. That’s an important distinction.
It’s hard to imagine not being opinionated, it’s all just whether the opinion agrees with yours or not.
Drop down or radio button? It’s an opinion about which is better. Braces and semicolons or spaces and newlines? It’s an opinion about how to best format machine parsed stuff. Science fiction or fantasy being a better setting for your game, another opinion.
To the extent something might pusue being “unopinionated”, I frequently find it tends to erode value. Refusing to pick a lane or even a default means the user has to do so much that the user might as well have done it themselves from scratch. Even in the attempt, they end up with opinionated implementation and documentation, as it’s just unavoidable.
Drop down or radio button? It’s an opinion about which is better.
If there’s only 2 or 3 options to select between, radio button. Drop down would be absurd; radio button requires fewer clicks to adjust.
If there’s 4 or 5, you could go either way, probably more influenced by whatever is more consistent with the rest of the widgets in that menu.
If there’s more than 5 options, drop down. Radio buttons would be absurd because it would just take up too much space in the menu to list all the options.
Correct and in open source there is a lot of choices that do the same thing so I have a plethora of options.
I mean, ruff is an opnionated code formatter. I don’t always agree with it but I’m very happy I can shut down other people whining with “that’s just how ruff does it”.
Same with black
If more software would focus on it’s corr function rather than trying to fit every relevant or irrelevant use case, we’d have a lot less problems with very large rats nests filled with problems
That’s actually an option you can revert.
How?
I combine two tricks:
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Go to System Preferences > General and enable Ask to keep changes when closing documents
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Option + Shift + Command + S or hold Option in the File menu and Duplicate will switch to Save As
Thank you, I’ll give it a try when I get home.
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What they mean is “I couldn’t write a 10-page paper without ChatGPT.”
We used to have a tradition in this country. A tradition of looking up some other shit people wrote and dumping it into our own lazy, English 101 term papers with the hopes that the graders wouldn’t notice.
Are we really so fucking lazy, as a society, that we can’t even do plagarism properly anymore?
Unironically, if you aren’t capable of restructuring and consolidating other people’s ideas into your own format, how many modern office jobs are you even qualified for?
That’s okay. Chatgpt is taking those jobs too.
I suggest we all get into plumbing. The potential for water damage makes robots less appealing there for the near future.
The potential for water damage makes robots less appealing there for the near future.
Waterproofing electronics and robotics is pretty much already a solved problem. And, really, any general purpose labor robot would already have to be waterproofed because, you know, what if it rains?
That said, plumbing repair is indeed likely to be one of the most automation-resistant jobs out there, along with most other renovation and repair jobs on existing buildings. Constructing new buildings could be automated much more easily, because you can control the environment the robots are working in and design the building around what the robots can and can’t do.
A new construction plumbing robot, for example, can be guaranteed to easily traverse the construction site because the construction site was built for it, and it only needs the tools and skills to deal with one or two types of piping systems – the types used in new construction.
A plumbing repair robot, though, would be much more challenging:
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It needs to be able to access all kinds of places in all kinds of buildings – cluttered basements, crawlspaces, attics, inside walls, underground, etc. And to get into those places, it will have to traverse every kind of obstacle imaginable … and quite a few that the engineers never imagined. (“What do you mean the only way into and out of the basement is by climbing a rope ladder?”)
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It needs to have the tools and skills to deal with every type of pluming system – PVC, copper, steel, PEX, etc, etc. (Including systems that use a combination of any and all of those.)
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It needs to be able to diagnose and address problems, not just assemble things. Unclogging a drain, finding where a leak is coming from, diagnosing a malfunctioning toilet… It needs to be able to figure out all those kinds of jobs in addition to being able to assemble and install things.
They’ll probably get there eventually … but I’m betting that’s one of the last sorts of jobs that robots will take over. Not that being a plumber will save you, though. Not at all. As many other jobs are lost, more and more people will be looking for and competing for the few jobs that are left. Being already in the job, already an incumbent with experience, will be to your advantage, but it won’t completely insulate you from your employer laying you off and replacing you with cheap, desperate workers who are willing to do it for minimum wage as long as it keeps them off the streets. And then, to continue working, you’ll also need to lower your standards and become one of the desperate, willing to work at minimum wage … because once we get into a situation where there are far more workers than there are jobs, every job becomes a minimum wage job.
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For the most part the way the average user is… well using chatbots and shit is basically just automated plagiarism on one level or another
It’s strawman rage bait. You can say the same thing about sailing vs combustion engine shipping, programming via C on notepad vs modern development environments and languages, etc.
The missing context is the time required when you know what you’re doing. And yeah sometimes walking is still faster than driving a car. But let’s not pretend we’re not seeing a major shift like industrialization or the internet. Both of which have fucked up society and the world in countless ways as much as it has benefited us.
I can write a solid 10 page well-researched paper out of a library in two weeks. With the internet, I can write that same paper with even better research in one week. With AI tools, I can write that same paper with better readability, conciseness, and overall editing in a couple days.
What’s the cost? Probably not pretty, but the deadline is a lot shorter than it used to be now. And that’s the reality most people will find themselves in now.
I’m not gonna feel any kind of sorry for an idiot that cannot imagine not needing a machine to do all of their thinking for them.
That’s a literal real world NPC right there.
And shit, that’s an insult to a fair number of NPCs, who have better writing, voice acting, and potentially GOAP driven tactics.
Fuck, sometimes even better facial animations.
Watching so many functioning adults and people alike just lobotomize themselves immediately when AI became a thing is just so fucking tragic
It is the prophecy foretold by our entire 20th/21st century concept of Zombies.
Its just that the vector for mind obliteration is primarily digital, not biological or supernatural.
It is the endpoint result of our laziness and preference for convenience.
When the rat in the skinner box gets a button wired to its brain that releases dopamine, the rat just hits the button untill it dehydrates/starves to death.
I read Death by Ecstasy by Larry Niven when I was a kid. The idea of “wire head” has stuck with me. It does look a lot like people staring at their phones, I’ve noticed.
Higher cognitive skills are a nightmare from which they managed to awake.
The CEO of one of my companies clients literally said they couldn’t do their job without Claude when we told him his PC was slowing down to the point of being unusable due to the desktop app and suggested he not use it
They’re probably voting though…
I’m about halfway through my degree and haven’t used AI for any of it 🤷♂️ Including at least two 10 page papers and I don’t even know how many 3-5 page ones, lol. I have no intention of changing that either, why would I want to dilute my writing voice or my line of reasoning throughout the paper? Writing is thinking, there are so many things you think you understand well until you sit down and try to explain it. That’s the point, that’s the process of learning.
If it was up to me I would accept a student doing a presentation instead of a final paper if they really struggled with writing, because I’ve seen professors do that and I think it teaches just as much (also it’s fun to watch people give presentations they’re enthusiastic about). But it has to be equivalent to the amount of writing you’d be doing, like 20 minutes to present 3-4 pages. But either way, AI isn’t going to teach you anything for either of those compared to doing the work yourself.
I’m in a field that decidedly does not value the written word beyond the minimum they need to understand and write emails, but I had to take a couple of writing classes in college.
I had to write several 10+ page papers, including research papers (like actual research, not “do your own research” research) before LLMs existed and I’m so fucking thankful for it. Nearly every single day I have to read the shit my colleagues write, and it’s like they’ve never read a book in their entire lives. It’s honestly tragic.
And this is a field full of ostensibly intelligent people.
Some would say the fact that your colleagues clearly didn’t need to take those classes means you shouldn’t have either.
I would not say that, I love writing.
Oh man, I asked Claude to summarize my commits and changes today, using the voice and structure of my usual daily updates.
It was fucking awful.
Claude spent 5 minutes on this then I had to review and edit anyway. I ended up spending 10 minutes writing down the what+why in a bullet list from scratch and it’s 100x clearer and better.
The AI neither did a better job nor saved me time.
I think you’re doing the right thing.
I suspect in five years or so final exams will be a 1 on 1, face to face meeting with the teacher where they ask you some softball questions you should be able to answer easily if you did even some of the homework.
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I love this take. One suggestion I would make is also rake your knowledge and try to help someone earlier in their journey. Writing is great but you get no feedback immediately(you may get some later).
When you explain something which you only have a surface knowledge of and the other person asks why… That’s teaches both of you alot.
Have they ever heard of books? Whole volume with up to several thousand pages written by people.
I’ve written two books, both well over 100,000 words. While writing the books, I had to read, and re-read them several times, of course. I also spent quite a bit of time researching things, reading parts of other people’s books.
The first one I wrote before ChatGPT existed. I finished the second one last year, but I have no idea how to use ChatGPT to write a book, so I didn’t try. Besides, writing is fun, why let a stupid machine do it?
why let a stupid machine do it?
From what I’ve seen, it’s to make a knock off of established work and hope people buy it on Amazon thinking they are getting something from an actually good series.
Tbf, I’m old enough to have known the world before the world wide web, let alone ChatGPT, and I really don’t understand how the hell anyone could write an internally consistent 1000+ page book/series.
Writers are witches.
Back before the internet became so addictive, I could write and write and write for long periods. Nowadays I have a really short attention span.
I do try to write hand-written letters every year, but work and chores and everything keeps getting in the way.
I never learned to bullshit much, and my default behaviour when i don’t know shit is doing nothing. Can anyone explain why i didn’t get a degree?
Really? This shit made front page twice?
You people do realize this is likely made-up ragebait, right? You really got energy for this?
You people do realize this is likely made-up ragebait, right?
As someone currently in college (soon not to be as I am dumb), I believe it. This indeed is how many do assignments, and also study, thus fully trusting the correctness of the information.
But it’s coming from both sides.
Lecturer on programming class told us we can ask questions if we have some. Cool, I did.
So I asked, got “That’s a good question, let’s find out.”, he typed out my question to Gemini, and read back the answer.
This was an introductory class to C, and my question was if you can find how much memory was allocated with malloc. His answer was Gemini’s answer which was a concrete no.
Stackoverflow however provided me with better information on the matter: https://stackoverflow.com/a/1281720 (possibly yes)Also, I’ve seen him ask and copy paste a number from Gemini. I think it was what a max value is for
uint32_t.
Putting 232-1 into a calculator? Nah, let’s use an inefficient non-deterministic calculator instead.
Lastly, he added “AI is your most patient teacher”.He did the speaking part of lectures above average, but holy information sources…
I watched a TA (teaching assistant) pull up their chatbot history when I challenged my DSA exam grades. I got about 17 points back. My grade went from high 60s to middle 80s.
Also anectode: I personally know of 2 people that sit in the back during 60+ people exams and simply use their phones.
You can pick nits that OP’s specific quote didn’t happen if you want to bother checking. I don’t care.
UC San Diego freshmen not prepared for college-level math, writing classes: Report
According to the report, the number of freshmen at UC San Diego who did not meet middle-school proficiency standards in mathematics increased nearly 30 times between 2020 and 2025, despite students having taken the required high school math classes.
The report goes on to say that in 2024, two out of five students who needed to take remedial math classes also had to take remedial writing classes.
Student prompted ChatGPT to write about “homeliness” and not “homelessness.”
not that it can’t be done,just you specifically couldn’t do it 😂 (j/k)
Nah your lying. People back than had AI programmed directly inside there head. Nowadays kids have to use external AI models.
AI in this case meant “Actual Intelligence.”
