One question, does LBRY (The protocol powering Odysee) count as something Federated ?
it’s all fascists and cryptobros
Does Odysee even use LBRY anymore? They abandoned the desktop app a while ago and I’m not sure how else you can use the protocol
(if so, then assuming everything is on Odysee then it’s about as federated as Bluesky)
Looks really cool, just discovered something liket his existed.
Kick ass! I’m all for more Fediverse stuff getting popular, and if this has any competition, just means more features will be added across all of them.
I was curious what the other apps were, found the list: https://fedidb.org/software
Is this the fediverse’s answer to Instagram?
Yes.
-Instagram has pixelfed. -Reddit has lemmy -X has Mastodon/Misskey/Pleroma (&forks…) -Tiktok has loops (app still super rough around the edges and sadly on limited to one instance rather than having its own software from what i understand) -Youtube has peertube (so far the least used i think)
I can’t wait for peertube to take off. I think of all of the social medias, youtube has the most enduring monopoly, because hosting is such a huge barrier it’s got even more of a natural monopoly than regular social media.
I think once peertube can start ascending that might be the ballgame for decentralised social media in general.
I dont understand how to join or post on peertube, its the most confusing, do you host your own, is there a feed of all the servers?
Does this help?
Where does Honk fit into this? https://humungus.tedunangst.com/r/honk
My feed on Pixelfed is way better the second week, now that I’ve followed a couple dozen folks and put some posts out there.
And pro tip: Post and tag a cute picture of your pet and people will see your account.
They need some starter packs like BlueSky because all I’m seeing are some art photography highly likely ai generated - and I have no idea where to find content that has any value. On searching the hashtags I’m getting mastodon posts containing links that can’t be clicked.
Does anyone have recommendations who to follow on pixelfed?
Yesterday I revived my old Pixelfed account, and I have set myself a challenge, upload one photo every day for a month.
I have plenty of photos from the last decade to pick from
I don’t know if this will mean that my account will be active in the long run, but I’ll give it an honest try.
I posted this earlier in the thread:
https://pxlmo.com/p/stoy/787786012092436062
@stoy@pxlmo.com
Yeah dude me obviously. @mayur@pixelfed.social
When a fediverse app wins, the whole fediverse wins. A rising tide lifts all ships or however it goes.
fuck it, I tried mastodon, I’ll give pixelfed a try too.
Thanks to Fedilab, I can’t tell the difference!
Is there any integration with Lemmy? Cross promotion would be awesome, and something big tech can’t actually do.
I am but a humble end user using the web interface, but I do know mastodon comments can somehow show up on Lemmy.
yeah I also want some clarity around how that works and if it’s functional rnow.
Hello from Mastodon.
All of these “talk” ActivityPub so Pixelfed should already integrate in some form with Lemmy.
How are you responding from masto without the @ ?
I’ve never seen that before
The @ is only required for making posts on Lemmy from Mastodon, not replies AFAIK.
Moderately certain this is already happening, as evidenced by loops showing up so often in my “all” tab. If I understand correctly (and for the love of all that is good, someone please correct me if I’m wrong), Loops is “hosted” via pixelfed.
I think you are just seeing people repost loops to Lemmy as Loops isn’t federated yet
Oh, is loops going to be run as a totally separate service?
I’m not well educated on their project (nor on activity pub beyond a surface level understanding), but it was my understanding that is was going to be run as a sub-service of pixelfed. Don’t suppose you can point to any resources on that topic?
Loops is made by the same developer as Pixelfed but I have no idea what he intends for loops
It’s just in early development and hasn’t federated yet.
It’s a separate thing from Pixelfed though. Just developed by the same guy.
Interesting to hear.
I’m super pumped for the project, but am largely waiting to get properly set up with it until there’s a good app and I can on-board the friends and family all in one go. Really hoping to get them all off TikTok/YT Shorts/Reels/whatever corporate and nation run projects the kids are using these days.
Have you tried it? It’s in open beta. The app is already really good. I don’t think it’s ready for the friends and fam yet but it’s worth checking out.
I’m liking it but they need to work on navigation, mostly the scrolling animations. What makes Tiktok/IG Reels great imo was the quickish navigation from post to post.
People like looking at photos of food and cats more than being railed for having "incorrect* political viewpoints? (/s for anyone not picking up on that btw:-P)
I literally just got called a snowflake in another thread for saying people should stop posting US politics in general communities. People still wonder why Lemmy has a bad reputation even in the entire Fediverse… Sometimes I wonder why I still bother here.
i just hate the way most people here assume everyone is coming from US smh
I don’t disagree it’s an issue, but what should be allowed in general communities? If any other nation’s politics are allowed, then you can’t really just not allow US politics (unless you make that a rule for the community and part of its purpose, which is fine).
There are just more Americans here than any particular other nationality, so you get more US content on average. You’ll need specific non-US communities if you want to avoid it. Expecting general communities to not reflect the general audience is a little absurd.
!politics@lemmy.world isn’t about any country politics, it’s exclusively about US politics (see the sidebar)
!youshouldknow@lemmy.world should be useful information for everyone, not only US citizens
Yeah, that’s definitely a shame. Let’s see how it goes, but I’m about to create a !usdefaultism somewhere just to list those occurrences
I’ve seen it, but seems abandoned, and not a fan of yet another community on LW
2024
Would you have such stats for LW? Really curious as it feels more balanced here
That’s reddit, not Lemmy?
Less than half, that actually surprises me. I honestly assume most people I meet online are Yanks.
Nowadays, other countries also have Internet and can speak English
I could see the numbers being a little different for Lemmy, but I don’t expect that they’re wildly different.
Yoink
Grabbing that for future reference. That’s the stats from 2024? Is there like a link to the actual source? Significantly more US-centered then I thought, especially since one would assume the numbers were even more skewed 5-10 years ago.
Lemmy is much more weighted towards an international userbase in my experience, which can be frustrating for the American audience at times, but also has its benefits.
Doesn’t seem like a super reliable source. I just grabbed the first result I googled.
I got it from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1bg323c/oc_reddit_traffic_by_country_2024/
It lists worldpopulationreview.com on the image.
There this statista link which has similar numbers and sounds more detailed, but still doesn’t have sources available. Google’s AI points to statista.
So nothing definitive. But I certainly expect that most users are from the US.
You inspired me to do a bit more digging. I found the page on world population review.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/reddit-users-by-country
Which lists this site as the true source. Looks pretty legit to me. Seems to be a paid service.
https://www.semrush.com/website/reddit.com/overview/
They’ve got US traffic listed around 51% for December 2024, so it’s actually gone up significantly compared to the March 2023 figures cited by world population review
https://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/reddit-traffic-report-march-2023pdf/257621808
Went from 2.32 billion US visits in March 23 to 3.17 billion in December 24, while Indian visitors actually declined significantly in the same period.
Someone called you a snowflake? Ok…uh, I’ll call you a carrot.
But also, I don’t understand the rules for this game. It’s a snowman game, right?
It’s what’s turned me off this entire time. Everything is replied to with someone virtue signaling.
I guess I am a snowflake too then, bc to me consent should matter. And while the USA is a part of the world, and also has an oversized effect upon it due to the size of the economy and trade deals and the like, it also can be overwhelming for some, who feel ostracized and left out as if only the big guys (and guns) matter.
But on the other hand, it is known that moderation sucks across the vast majority of Lemmy - it’s somewhat baked right into the tools themselves, e.g. removing whole posts rather than merely taking them out of the community lists but allowing people to continue their discussions already begun, as Reddit does.
So you may want to take it upon yourself to either start blocking by keywords (maybe find an app that allows that - I’m not sure which ones), or user accounts that do that, or even find a better community to engage with.
Though I agree with your conclusion: I no longer recommend Lemmy to people irl by virtue of having been burned by that far too many times before. We’re toxic AF in this Alt-Left (rather than Alt-Right) “Nazi bar” space, and a lot of the people here are legit those banned from Reddit for exactly that behavior.
moderation sucks across the vast majority of Lemmy
Moderation isn’t ideal, but absent moderators aren’t going to moderate even with the best tools
I mean, PieFed has some really cool thoughts about doing exactly that… I’m hoping for a lot there.
As it is, Lemmy is simply a more authoritarian version of Reddit - at the low level I mean, next to the users, who e.g. have no modmail recourse to discuss anything, nor even receive a notification that their content has been removed. Even while it is also open source so allows instance admins greater freedom to implement whatever policies they choose - disabling downvotes for example.
Anyway the more the technology can do the less reliance upon human efforts to moderate. e.g. to facilitate automated community discovery, so that there is lowered barriers to getting away from bad moderators.
PieFed is highly promising, but I wish you didn’t feel the need to go overboard with criticizing Lemmy. Calling Lemmy a more authoritarian version of reddit… that’s a pretty wild take.
That’s like calling tribal societies more authoritarian than Stalinist or fascist states. There’s no such thing as low-level authoritarianism, that doesn’t make any sense. The users can message the mods directly, and they can go as they wish and do as they please. It’s like calling the nuclear family unit authoritarian, it becomes a nonsensical concept when applied to human-scale social organization. It refers to large scale social units such as nations and political parties, not small groups of freely associated individuals like Lemmy.
You’re still stuck in the reddit mindset where there isn’t anywhere else to go, everything is contained in one closed box controlled by spez. On Lemmy you can go and build your own box, and there are already dozens to choose from that are free and open to join.
The users can message the mods directly
The lack of modmail and notifications when content is removed is still an issue. Not authoritarian, that seems much, but a better moderation experience from both sides would make the platform better for everyone.
I use a bridge to matrix for private messages to the bot accounts, reports for posts for which there are multiple bot accounts on different instances because federation is broken for reports, and new posts to the communities (where the last one was merged just few hours ago). We are also contemplating getting ourselves the functionality to automatically message users when we take action on their post/comment.
It’s crazy how far we have to go to make moderating stuff easier/more pleasant to do. I hope lemmy improves in that by a lot at some point.
My another gripe is no ability to detect image reposts because in image heavy communities they’re very common and remembering what was posted and when is a massive pita. That would fall under a bot category and not integrated feature (but would be cool if it was deeply integrated into lemmy so situations where it would tell you if it’s a repost BEFORE you even post it could be possible) but it’s still something that makes it harder to moderate. Same goes for posting to other communities because you need to check if it was posted recently or not if you aren’t chronically online to know that already.
For the image issue, if it is a link then wouldn’t Lemmy detect that already? Links to news articles and such at least work that way but I don’t know about images.
I’m also a snowflake, cause it’s also annoying that people assume you’re from USA.
What state are you from?
That did make some sense… at one time, on Reddit or Facebook, but damn times have changed since then. Though teenagers have not :-).
I just got called a rapist! For asking wtf she was wearing, fashion wise. (On a non rape story just to be clear). I also wonder why I’m still here. Y’all need to be better.
Looking at the comments, I can see how your comment got misinterpreted. I do believe you had no such intention, but the way it was worded (especially the last word, ‘anyway’) makes it sound out of context as if you were victim blaming. And from the number of votes, it’s obvious many see it that way. Rather than get mad at randos on the internet, why not just reflect that you might have written that in a somewhat confusing way, and clarify it? Without escalating.
I can see. But if people have a choice to interpret something as 1) that a question about fashion is in fact an innocuous question about fashion, or 2) that he’s obviously a rapist and victim blaming and I’m going to call him a rapist (when the entire tone of the thread and community is not serious), the problem that I see is that Lemmy is quick to misinterpret in the worst way possible.
And oddly enough, he was the person to escalate with that accusation, and I was the one to explain it.
Where did someone call you a rapist? Was it removed?
if people have a choice to interpret something as 1) that a question about fashion is in fact an innocuous question about fashion, or 2) that he’s obviously a rapist and victim blaming and I’m going to call him a rapist (when the entire tone of the thread and community is not serious)
That’s on the assumption that the reader sees both possible meanings, though. Most people don’t do that, the first meaning that comes to mind is the one we go with. It’s a very rare person that will, without external prompting, go ‘I wonder if he meant something else?’.
And oddly enough, he was the person to escalate with that explanation, and I was the one to explain it.
From his POV, you had already escalated. Yeah it was due to his misunderstanding. But at that point you were the one with a choice as to whether to nicely explain your actual original meaning, (and maybe edit the confusing line?) or just rage about everybody on Lemmy being quick to assume the worst. Nobody’s the asshole here, it was a misunderstanding, but you could have chosen to make it better :)
If someone can’t see what the literal words say then… there are bigger problems. Which may actually explain things.
It’s odd that you think I raged. I observed.
Yeah as expected I went and checked the comment in question and you are definitely misrepresenting it. You are omitting the context of the post, which is like…the entire fucking problem.
The amount of times I see people go “I was banned for literally no reason!” and the like only to discover they’re not being exactly truthful is staggering.
TbF I’ve seen plenty of wildly inappropriate bans on Lemmy too.
No one said they never happen 🤷♂️
The context of the post: 196 which is essentially a shit posting and take nothing serious community. Yeah that context. And that it was a straight question about what she was wearing, fashion wise since you really need to hear it. So thank you for demonstrating the exact problem!
You know I just read an interesting piece about how Musk deploys plausible deniability - or rather attempts to. He thinks he’s clever and he isn’t.
I know what 196 is. The context is the image. You really can’t see any reason why you got that reaction? Really and truly?
Reaction? If you see a simple question in a shitposting community, with the image of a fashion choice that is unconventional, and think “Hmm should I interpret this as a question about fashion as he asked, or should I interpret this as he’s a rapist and trying to be clever about it”, if you default to thinking that the other person is obviously a rapist (as you seem to have, saying that I’m seeking plausible deniability and try to associate me with Musk and trying to be clever with rape lol), then holy fuck, and frankly that’s on you. That was your reaction. Like you have to really out there to default to “he’s obviously a rapist”. You need to be better.
Honestly this is the perfect example of how Lemmy has a ravenous need to misinterpret. You just did it yourself.
This is such a reach dude. Also her outfit is far from “unconventional.“ But I’m not gonna get bogged down in the weeds of that one.
I remember somebody tried to talk to me recently about the economics of the third Reich without talking about the war. At some point you’re just ignoring what’s in front of you to the point where it’s dishonest.
You’re having a very real principal Skinner moment here. A lot of people are telling you the issue, yet you are hell bent on hiding behind intention. Unfortunately intention is not enough. Especially when you double down in the face of valid critiques.
I know you don’t want advice from me but I’m going to give it anyway: take a beat, step away from this conversation, then come back and think about why people may have had a negative reaction to what you said. There is an important lesson here you can pick up if you want to.
You were just joking around, right? Well, perhaps they were too. If you want it assumed about you, perhaps go ahead and assume it about then. That way, even if the former does not happen, at least you will definitely have the moral high ground regardless. Now, what was it that Obi Wan always says about the high ground…? :-P
LOL no I wasn’t joking around (about rape or anything else). It was a legit, straightforward question about fashion. And no he wasn’t joking, it was a pretty clear accusation.
I’m so confused.
This place just needs better moderation. I’ve said this multiple times before but there is a serious lack of moderation and most admins go dark for long periods of time. Make it clear this behavior isn’t okay, ban people who run their mouth, and remove low-effort posts.
I personally have seen much worse overmoderation than undermoderation.
Strong agree. Maybe we should start calling out communities with inactive mods. Like a spring cleaning of communities.
Could be a pretty easy flag to be displayed on any community. Basically last time the mod logged in or was active (should be available).
Its nice right now…Hope it stays.
How dare you!! Here’s why you need to be vegan right now by the way grumble grumble grumble
Oh excuse me, while I convert my entire personality to incorporate that energy…
There, done! I am now okay with murdering anyone who is okay with, ah… murdering a uh… wait, I may see a problem here.:-P
It is your fault President Musk got elected, shitlord!!!
Oh you mean people don’t like being shouted and cursed at for having a moderate opinion.
you’re comparing apples to oranges. Lemmy is for discussions pixelfed is for posting photos.
I mean people like mastodon and it’s full of the same takes. But on mastodon if you post a pro capitalist post to your timeline, people just ignore. Unlike on Lemmy where you have to post it on a post that’s likely to garner a response
Nice.
Nice.
If you look at monthly active users instead of total users, Pixelfed is a strong 2nd place.
ikr lemmy has a little over 40k active users. If you look at the first data point just as the slope starts to rise, that’s where lemmy is by comparison:
Total users is pretty meaningless bc it includes things like users who left and will never return, and bot accounts.
What are you guys posting pictures of over on pixelfed? What’s goin’ on over there that’s so popular? Is it more politics, and social issues? Or is it cats?
It’s mostly landscape, food, and cats.
I’m mainly posting dogs and computers
There’s a sudden influx of users from instagram and tiktok and whatnot because of the ban, zuckerberg fellating Trump, and all of that stuff going on. So the answer to “What’s getting posted?” is “everything”
Interesting because i just joined 1 day ago so my feed only has 5 default following, but discover only has about 5 other peoples’ work repeated through the discover tab. It seems difficult to discover new people which could be a problem in retaining normal people after the ibflux, like what happened to lemmy
Which server did you join? I’ve been following lots of hashtags (including cats), so my feed there is pretty active. Just hoping some IRL friends and family will join soon so I have those sort of accounts to follow and share with.
that user name logo should be a war crime
I have standing orders to invade the Hague if ever tried there
Crazy enough. People are posting what they were posting on instagram.
…titty pictures of girls in bikinis from women who claim to be influencers, but have an audience that mostly doesn’t communicate or care what she has to say, thus negating any influence her words have?
I dunno, I only follow capybarabot.
My dog. no really, hes a good boy.
And I follow one of the people from an Aquarium with fantastic shots.
I posted a guide to modding a tatacon for taiko no tatsujin
…did you just have a stroke??? Did you turn Japanese midsentence? What just happened here?
That’s not Japanese fyi, 太鼓の達人 is the Japanese name
It is Japanese drumming game with an associated controller, I posted a guide with pictures to modify the drum controller so it’s more sensitive to being hit
I’d say it’s Japanese, just the romaji for 太鼓の達人. English translation would be like “drum master”
I mean yes but it’s also the official title for the English release of the game.
Like to be clear I’m not being the person who’s like “oh have you seen Kôkaku Kidôtai?” And then you’re like “what the fuck is that” and I’m like “uh, I guess if you’re uncultured you might know it as ghost in the shell.” And then everyone in the room groans because of fucking course every single person who speaks English as a native language has always called it ghost in the shell
omae wa mō shindeiru
なに?!
Severely underrated game (with also one of the most underrated minigames ever!). I just wish it had more vidya crossover music.
The new one has more game music than old ones did. But to get a lot of it you have to subscribe. Thankfully the subscription isn’t terribly expensive ($10/3mo) and it’s easy to get it in a way that doesn’t auto renew. Music licensing is stupid though so music games are dying and will probably forever be subscription services going forward. The days of buying a game like guitar hero are long gone.
It has the classic ones like Mario medley, Zelda overworld, Kirby, persona 5, undertale, etc. but the game pass adds stuff like tekken, id@lmaster, ridge racer, tales of symphonia, ace combat, etc.
it’s a weird mix that’s definitely missing a lot of iconic stuff though. The push is definitely more pop/vocaloid/anime music
Alternatively you can get something like opentaiko or tjaplayer (closer to the real game) and use custom charts from a site like https://ese.tjadataba.se/ESE/ESE . You need a pc but it doesn’t require a particularly great pc and pretty much every drum controller, including the official console ones, work on pc.
I definitely wish it was more popular in the west. Online play is an absolute ghost town unless you play during Japan time. Like if you play during peak us hours matchmaking will literally spend 20-30 minutes to find no one.
From what I have found, its almost all photos of animals and nature. Honestly I am kinda disappointed. I want memes. I also got onto Loops and that is also mostly animals and nature, but with the very occasional funny.
Everything. It’s like early days Instagram, but people are more politically and socially aware, and posting about those things.
I’m just worried a lack of content discovery, (foss) algorithms, other features and consistent development will have an adverse effect on this new growth. I’m glad that Dan finally got the apps on the stores at a critical moment though or we wouldn’t even be here.
This is the issue. These apps don’t use algorithms that made the apps they are meant to replace popular in the first place. People may come, but I fear they won’t stay when it’s not an exact clone of what they know.
At the very least though, at least the algorithms are open source so we know exactly how hot, rising, and scaled are sorted in Lemmy at least and so people who want those algorithms can choose if they wish and those who don’t want them don’t have to have them.
We should train people to mindfully find content. Content discovery algorithms just encourage shitposting. Just put the top posts by favorites or boosts or whatever they are called on Pixelfed in a special trending feed and then just sort your follows by chronological and local by chronological. But as long as their is options, I won’t complain.
Searching hashtags needs to have sort options to make that happen. I want to see most recent and top liked too.
Only enough people need to stay to make it a viable alternative for many. And even if it’s just the first step in migration away from Twitter/Meta then that’s still at least a step taken.
