I’m so numb to the threat of a population crash after decades of accepting that I’ll likely die as a direct cause of climate change and/or nuclear annihilation and/or global pandemic and/or cancer from one of the many poisons we’re pumping into our environment. I couldn’t care less about population crash. They do everything they can to ruin the world for everybody but the elite, I’m sure as hell not bringing anybody into it so they can labor for these assholes.
Threat? You mean a set of humans with the technology we have or better but more resources per human??? That’s bad?
Every time I hear politicians advocating for more children I keep thinking “you want to put even more people on this earth to use up its resources?”
Surely having a few less humans around would be a good thing for the climate.
I have children and I love them very much, BUT if I was making the choice to have children today it would be resounding no. Primarily because of people like Elon Musk and the TDS that is speedrunning America’s collapse.
I don’t really think they want that at all. I think it’s just another culture war wedge to fuck women with. Then people can claim it’s everything but the class war this clearly is.
Why would they want more kids around? To kill them or destroy them with robots would be the only answer. Nothing in the books they read/write actually indicate they want anyone to have more kids.
Replaceable wage slaves. They can bring every ounce of productivity out of one human, toss them out and grab another.
When a dude who TRIED to get into pedo-island is telling you he needs more kids, perhaps you should trust your gut and gtfo.
On Christmas morning emails epstien about it no less. A real family man he is.
He doesn’t even like his own children.
And they don’t even like him
I don’t think that is true he uses them as props all the time.
“This is my son, Kevlar.”
I could totally see him naming his son Kevlar for real.
Hmm. In the biographies it is a least clear that he values spending time with them and has them in mind for many decisions - but definitely in his own way… Like quality time with his newest baby while being on a SpaceX conference call.
And the better question: Do they like him?
The dude has a breeder fetish. Once they start becoming people he loses interest
I wouldn’t believe the biography of a liar. One of his children, Vivian Wilson, has a very different story to tell.
I hear you. But a lot of the content of both biographies are based on recounts from other people about him - but still…
Regarding Vivian, Elon has definitely done a really horrible job with her. According to the most recent book, he presumably tried to downside his mansion lifestyle in an effort to gain a bit of her fondness for him back (this was driven by their differences in political views, hers being much more left leaning; not her transgender identity). But obviously it didn’t help one bit. It just goes to show that he will bend for people (including his children) to like him.
This fucking man went on national tv to say she was dead to him and that woke killed his son. Fuck you and fuck him.
I will take the hate - don’t understand it, as I am not defending him, but sure, mention Elon and you will be blazed by a flamethrower regardless. If there is something specific regarding hate towards me, let me know.
You are devils advocating when the devil is not only in the room he’s on the tv spouting bigotry and abuse.
I mean no one wants to be hated by the in-crowd. I think him losing progressive clout back when he was with old grimey hit him hard. He spent a fortune in reddit psychophants, cartoon spotlights, TV exposure, and other media to get people the progressives to like him.
It didn’t work, and rather than slinking into background like other billionaires he made an emotional decision to publicly pivot alt-right. I think this really is who he is, but I don’t think he actually likes it. He embraces loudly it because he knows we hate it.
I think deep down all these adults with power who act emotionally just want to be beloved, but cannot accept that their core values make them reviled. I can definitely understand him trying to do right by his kids, in his own warped logic sense
He spent a fortune in reddit psychophants, cartoon spotlights, TV exposure, and other media to get people the progressives to like him.
Has Dave Chappelle ever said how much Elon paid him to appear onstage with him?
I think Dave did that for the love of the game
The irony of American white nationalism will always be that that despite being a white American by birth and genetics, even as I fight that privilege, I’ll still be a “better” white American than the world’s richest immigrant can ever be. You picked the wrong allies, you picked the wrong fight, and your ancestors (exploiters as they were) picked the wrong continent. You’ll never be “good” enough. And while I despise that standard, your failure to figure that out and your personal collapse is a small delight.
The cost is parenthood is probably one of the biggest obstacles to having a higher fertility rate in most industrialized countries.
You want more babies? Stop hoarding all the money with the other 15 richest people in the country. Pay your fair share of taxes so the people looking to start building families get the support they need and their children have access to an affordable quality education. Also give everyone a fair pay.
To add: Baby boom wasn’t horny vets.
They through money at it. One form was affordable mortgages
government-guaranteed mortgages in the 1930s and 1940s led to dramatically higher rates of home ownership among young couples. “Mortgage insurance programs led to 3 million additional births from 1935-1957, roughly 10 percent of the excess births in the baby boom,
“No, we need more workers to steal value from! Keep squirting them out!!”
The cost is parenthood
Money is certainly a big factor, but so is time and the general lack of support parents get from society. Historically (and in some parts of the world today), there was more focus on the extended family rather than the elementary family. The shift in focus on family structure has put a lot more demands on parents. Combined with the higher expectations of parenting, and it’s no wonder many people are opting out. When I talk about expectations, think about not only material items but how norms have changed regarding the level of supervision.
Parenting has become punitive in many modern societies.
I think I heard the best explanation as a generation of people being devoid of hope for the future being told that their actually wrong and really just being selfish and life isn’t that bad. Like truly dead inside and just going thorough the motions on autopilot.
Because fertility rates everywhere are going down, and it’s not just an economic consideration. North Korea is racing South Korea to the bottom in terms of who can go extinct first, and they are the most disparate case that could possibly be presented.
Combined with the higher expectations of parenting, and it’s no wonder many people are opting out.
It’s now Darwinian in the sense that only those who can afford quality have the likelihood of better upward mobility, like some of them insisting to have private education over public. Of course and sadly, the so-called middle class is being hollowed out as the wealth gap widens.
I want to have a kid or two but I ddon’t trust society to do it, so I feel I have to put a lot of effort into it
Hey Elon, the cost of parenthood is the problem, as proven by you having all this money and all these kids. Gimme cash and ill have a kid (not yours)
This may have been his purpose for raiding the US government files. Probably some schemes involving widespread eugenics by nudging more favorable social supports for certain groups. Completely speculatory but plausible given what can be done with big data these days. We still have zero leads as to what he stole all that data for.
I’ve been assuming it was to feed into Palantir, but the iK just straight up gave them the NHS data so why they had to raid the tresury idk.
Kids are cheap if you accept half will die before adulthood and most will only do unskilled labor.
I do not accept
Or just be like musk and not even bother to raise them.
Too accurate
It’s missing the bit where he starts screaming “You will not replace us!” and accusing them of pedophilia.
while he has a eugenics breeding fetish, IMPLANTING sperm into surrogates like an alien.
He exported South Africa in spirit.
* White South Africa
Meanwhile I got blasted for following the “wait with children until you’re financially stable” advice as a white person (it was supposed to apply to non-whites only).
The elite want people to have children because people with children have something they could lose that isn’t theirs to sacrifice. It makes them easier to control.
Hmm… I think it’s for a different reason.
Birthrates are down because (amongst other things) it’s financially impossible to have a family in this time.
However, as much as these tech billionaires invest into AI, they still need grunt workers to keep society running. So eventually these billionaires will lose value because society doesn’t have workers.
Billionaires can’t look 20 years into the future when the babies would grow up to be workers. If they could, they’d see that destroying the environment is going to cost way more in the future than it would to just fuck it less now.
Just replace with AI duh. It solves all problems. Like my AI proxy banging my SO AI proxy.
When did having multiple baby mommas become NOT embarrassing?
when you’re rich.
Crazy? bad
Craz and rich? eccentric
Alcoholic? bad
Alcoholic rich? classy
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True
I mean, the my pillow guy is rich…but he’s just crazy.
People who have no shame don’t get embarrassed the same way.
I don’t think shame and embarrassment are the same thing. Embarrassment often requires humility, but when people are ashamed, they dodge accountability.
I would not accept shame of a type I wouldn’t put on someone else. Would I shame a woman for having kids with multiple guys? Of course not, you’d have to be a megachode to do that. So why would we tolerate people shaming anyone for that practice? Why should a person’s gender determine whether they’re allowed multiple partners in their life? We’re not even talking about non-monogamy here; plenty of people have kid(s) with one partner and then have more with another after leaving the first. I’ve got family members and friends who’ve done that. You think how much we shame them should be determined by their gender? Only women should be permitted?
I think shaming the rich is always on the table for any and all reasons, personally. Anything to get to them.
What you say isn’t in a vacuum. If you shame a rich person for a reason, you’re implicitly shaming many other people who match your insult
Although a woman having kids with multiple guys would probably negatively impact her, this choice doesn’t have the same consequences for her in society. An equivalent “bad choice” for a woman would be marrying an older man at a young age, never getting an education, never getting a job, having multiple kids with him, and then allowing him to be The Head of the Household without any input from her. Long term, that would put her in a similarly disadvantaged social position as a man with multiple baby mommas, if she were an average person.
I didn’t say that people who have kids out of wedlock or who get married before adulthood deserve to be kicked out of society and neither do people who pick their nose in public or who steal from the collection plate at church. I said it’s embarrassing and probably shouldn’t be encouraged.
I’d shame a woman for being a massive creep about the whole thing, and layering transphobia on top of that.
People shame women for equivalent choices all the time.
Why would that be embarrassing?
As a man not taking care of your multiple kids is embarrassing and most guys can’t mentally or financially afford to take care of multiple kids. Paying child support instead of providing for your kid day to day is embarrassing. Multiple child support payments can bankrupt you, they’ll dock your wages. Not paying child support is a felony in some States. Of course this is only the rule for us poors.
Nailing multiple hoes with no protection is a gamble on getting a kid or an STD. It’s incredibly stupid. This is just how guys in my generation tend to think. Edit: Not that Elon “nailed” anybody, his kids are all from IVF allegedly, which is even more embarrassing than just having multiple kids from different women.
Most of them are in vitro be ause apparently a botched penis enlargement made it not work.
Not that Elon “nailed” anybody, his kids are all from IVF allegedly, which is even more embarrassing than just having multiple kids from different women.
And they’re only ever sons too (going by gender assigned by birth).
That’s why he had a trans child, because he tempted fate
I dont think its embarrassing, but practical if you want to spread your DNA. He’s had children from actual relationships so it’s not like he can’t, and he can afford to pay for all of them.
Egotistical sure. Having so many kids you cant be a real father to them and using money to replace that, pretty brutal. Im sure other things too, but I wouldn’t say embarrassing.
Maybe if it had been the only way he can have kids.
I dont think its embarrassing, but practical if you want to spread your DNA.
See, that whole mindset is part of the things that should be embarrassing.
I’m sorry nobody taught you how to be a man, it’s tough when that’s the reality, I can relate to that too. Hang in there.
If child rearing experts are universally not on board (🤞) with the way you’re executing this “practical” plan, it might be embarrassing to have all the resources but not the sense to choose a healthier-for-the-children path.
Those without that sense probably also won’t be embarrassed, though. Embarrassed for him!
The mothers wanted a child, and unless they were going to adopt, were likely going to have IVF through a sperm donor anyway. It’s not like he’s trying to convince someone who doesn’t want a kid to have his kids. He convinced people who wanted to have kids to have his kid.
So I don’t see how that impacts what a child rearing expert think, since a kid is going to be born to a single mother, or a mother who can’t have a kid naturally with their husband. Unless you’re saying women shouldn’t raise a child alone, via IVF or adoption, which I don’t think you’re trying to say.
Edit: And in this case, the kid is set for life, albeit with a terrible father (who might have been absent anyway)
Edit: And if he’s convincing people who do not want kids, to have his kids, well that’s another ball game entirely and is embarrassing.
Don’t let Elon musk tell you what to do with your genitals. Also anyone that cares about brith rate and however much there is of whatever race is weird.
Humans will ultimately evolve into another species and concept of human races will become irrelevant.
Not if Nazi’s have anything to say about it…
Punch a nazi today
This dude is so fucking creepy
He is. So much like Goebbels.
Asshole apartheid beneficiary.
