IDK anything about Canadian politics.
Didn’t this guy just preside over a pretty epic loss? Why does his party still want him?
Similar thing just happened here in Australia. Leader of the party lost his seat. Even if he hadn’t he would probably resign in shame because he’s really made a mess of things.
Yes. His own party should boot him as leader.
The in fighting hasn’t begun yet.
We have experienced a very strange situation where the cons (unfortunately) fared far better than it ever did in its modern iteration while losing its momentous advantage, meaning that there is still somewhat of a reason for Poilièvre to stay in the race. He is also very arrogant, so he will not back down easily.
Thanks. That’s helpful.
that was predictable
Are there not residency requirements?
Nope
Man that seems so Twisted to me. How can you represent people you don’t spend any time around? How can you claim to know their needs if you don’t even live among them?
I’m not Canadian, but I’ve previously known that in the US you only have to live in the same state as the district you’re representing. An argument in favor of that concept (that I admittedly just made up) is that congressional boundaries get rewritten every decade. In theory, this could be used to push a rep out of Congress if someone really wanted to, if they were required to live in district. State boundaries are much more stable so this is pretty good immunity to that.
My riding decided to elect someone who lives two cities away, so I guess not at the local level at least
So I’m guessing Alberta is Canada’s version of Alabama?
Probably closer to Texas, since we have a bunch of oil.
Ah. I see.
I for one didn’t expect someone to resign this quickly.
PP has Mr. Kurek to thank. Some of you will understand this statement differently than others. 😂
This isn’t the first time this kind of thing has happened, provincially or federally, and it tends to be resolved pretty quickly. The same thing happened when Trudeau took leadership, for reference. Now, certainly this happens a lot less often when a party leader loses in a riding he previously held, but the mechanics are the same. Get a new leader, have a leader who can’t vote or perhaps speak in Parliament, or have a by-election in a safe riding.
Can you expand on that thing about when Trudeau took leadership, or link to an article, I’m not sure I remember this situation.
My bad, he was in fact elected in a general election, although there were rumors about him running in a by-election shortly before that, and all of that was before he was even leadervof the Liberals. I honestly, don’t remember anything about him in politics prior to leading the Liberals except that half-remembered by-election tidbit.
Another relevant example would be when Preston Manning resigned and Stephen Harper ran in his riding after being newly chosen to lead the Conservatives. There were a number of reasons for that to happen, and a bit of political maneuvering to have them all happen at the same time.
Thanks.
Yeah I understand why these manuvres are used, and sometimes would benefit democracy.
In this case PP was shown the door by his own riding, I think that either shows: a) the people do not want him in office, in which case this is just sidestepping democracy, or b) the conservatives failed to place their own leader in a "safe"enough riding, which shows a clear problem with that parties management, lead by PP, in which case he should probably move along as well.
I’ve said elsewhere there were only 3 real options available to them, and this was one of them. The fact of the matter is, the leader of the Conservative Party is chosen by Conservatives and he gets elected by a riding, and those are two different things. Now, if the people in this new riding think he should be gone, then he most likely will be, both from that riding and the party. And if Conservatives in general think this was the wrong choice for the party, we will see the results of that in the next general election if not sooner.
Now, I’m not saying I disagree with your assessment, and I personally think the Conservatives made the wrong choice (not surprising, I didn’t vote for them), but these are the choices we’ve established in our system. Perhaps this is one that should be changed, perhaps not.
Is it within parliamentary procedure to address him as the former member from Ottawa-Carleton?
Nobody respects you Milhouse
American here. Can someone explain why Carney won’t be seeking NDP support?
Political parties should just standby the morals and principles they try to uphold.
If they align together, great they can both vote yes. If they don’t then they don’t. Pandering to other parties to get their vote just gets in the way of what you are actually trying to achieve.
That’s my take anyways
The tend to make agreements on cooperation as a part of the partnership. A smaller party can trade up, gaining roles in the government, or concessions on certain policies.
And do you think that’s conclusive to a well functioning government?
To me that just leads to corruption, incentivizing self severing interest.
To form an alliance you mean? The Bloc Quebecois already said they’ll be quiet for the next year as there’s lots to do, having two parties to work with means you don’t necessarily need to always bend the same way so it’s advantageous to leave the door open to sometimes compromise left and sometimes compromise in favour of what Quebec wants…
He probably will but it will be on an issue by issue basis. Carney only needs three votes from any of the Bloc Québécois or the NDP to pass anything. He can pull from either party.
Appalling, craven, cowardly, and pathetic hubris on the part of PeePee and conservative sycophants. A deep shame on rural Alberta for being such uncritical lemmings.
They haven’t voted yet. I, for one, am not holding my breath, but maybe there will be a silver lining of hope that he doesn’t get elected, especially if an independent runs against him. Now, to get the independent candidate riled up and in place. I have a vivid imagination. Lol
They are going to simp so hard for him. But I hope Maxime Bernier (PPC) runs as well as Blake Desjarlais (NDP) and the Longest Ballot as well. But I have zero faith in rural Albertans who have been mainlining right-wing apologia for decades.
The same people think that kids are using cat litter in schools to go to the bathroom.
Nothing says democracy like ignoring the will of the people.
What a chud
That was quicker than I expected.
You got to get rid of those nazis or they’ll be ruling the roost in an election cycle, trust me. –an american
Some of his ideas, like defunding CBC, are foolish.
I don’t think Pierre Poilievre is a Nazi. Statements like that are unhelpful.
People said the same thing about MAGA/Trump.
Conservatives are holding the door open for fascism, and if you can’t close it, it will come in.
“Progressives”/Liberals are straight up begging for authoritarian dictatorships.
I missed when calling for smaller government, less regulations, less red tape, untouchable free speech, and less censorship suddenly became “fascism”.
There’s that classic liberal attitude we all know and love.
Classic conservative attitude we all loathe
You’re adorable.
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Cool made up things! Republicans are trying to ban you from saying gay people exist now? Source? Websites are being censored? Source?
Did you miss when Herr trump banned all those DEI websites? Like are you really that ignorant of what is going on?
Banned all those DEI websites? You mean removed policies from their government websites that no longer existed?
If the government end a government program, it’s not “censorship” to remove said program from government websites lol.
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Wikipedia is not a source.
No one is trying to deny gay people are a thing.
PP was part of the Harper government which muzzled climate scientists, has made an enemy of the free press and implemented a racist snitch line to report religious minorities. Yeah, that’s the kind of “free speech” Poilievre believes in, the kind that shut the fuck up and doesn’t contradict the party line. So yeah, he’s a fucking fascist and you are a fucking idiot to think he is anything but a fucking fascist.
He likes to dine with Nazis, and we all know the old adage about Nazis at a dinner table.
That was America’s favorite phrase in 2024…
PP is a populist conservative politician so he’s not actively fascist, but do you know what happens when your society has a fascism-shaped hole? Politicians like PP expand to fill that hole.
I wish people would stop calling him a populist. Doug Ford is a populist. PP is pretending to be a populist and is, at best an ideological populist but populists pivot. He doesn’t. We should be referring to him as an Opportunist because it all looks like an act to me.
If it walks like a populist and it quacks like a populist…
First time on Lemmy/Reddit?
Probably hundreds or thousands of times this image has been posted by supporters of the literal fascists picking apart the United States, mocking others for overreacting over the last months and years. The thing has happened, how do you think you have a point?
How is the American government “fascist”?
It gets posted thousands of times because it’s true. “Nazi” Is the default attack by the far left. Someone *doesn’t * want free speech abolished? Nazi!
Here’s dozens of concrete examples of how Trump’s government is directly enacting fascist policies. I’m not sure if you’re trolling so I put in a very small amount of effort to locate these articles, there are hundreds online.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2025/03/03/donald-trump-fascist-government-crikey-part-one/
https://www.crikey.com.au/2025/03/05/donald-trump-fascist-government-crikey-part-two/
P. S. If you hit the paywall they’re available on paywall bypass websites.
The democrats did/do all of those things too. Installing “loyalists” to top jobs is what every admin does. Biden did it. Obama did it. Everyone does it.
The media example is dumb. There are dozens of media, most highly critical of the trump, allowed in to the White House briefings etc. What 60 minutes did with that rambling Kamala interview deserves to have consequences, as they deliberately edited it to make her look better so as to not hurt her election chances.
Also just FYI - the Nazis were a socialist party. They were left wing.
No, the democrats do not install Biden loyalists - people who have loudly and publically repeatedly announced uncritical support of Biden. They do not hire staff that are without any formal education or without significant qualifying experience for important roles - whereas Trump does all of those things. To say they all do the same shows a very uncritical assessment of reality.
The Nazi party believed firmly in social & familial heirarchy, oppressed the underclasses openly through targeted programs to eliminate trans, gay, Jewish and other minority groups, worked hand in glove with the factory owners and corporations to crush and outlaw unions, praised and supported the former Monarchy and Kaiser, and purged the communist party from the German political assembly through violence and incarcerations - and ultimately sent all communists, Marxists and labour leaders to death camps along with any other minorities they had decided to murder. So to insist they were left wing simply because their party name includes the word ‘socialist’ is naieve and ignorant to history.
Check sources from actual historians and you will find the same conclusions and volumes of evidence.
The only (in)famous people I know claiming the ‘Nazis were left-wing’ are the criminal liar Dinesh D’Souza, and all the usual right wing grifters Stephen Crowder, Prager ‘University’, Matt Walsh and so on - they are lying, as they do about most things. There are much better sources of news and information.Also just FYI - the Nazis were a socialist party. They were left wing.
No, they really aren’t
Oh, i don’t know, fascist policies? That should be pretty fucking obvious
Fascist policies such as……?
Do you genuinely live under a rock? Can you actually be that oblivious? You need to educate yourself bud
Oh ffs. Stop playing it down. Look at the riding he’s being given. Battle river. It’s conspiracy city. Far cry from Carleton… I know that part of Alberta well . I’m telling you right now: it ain’t good . He went from serving coffee to the convoy to living with them.
Step off with the gaslighting. This is the type of exact crap the Americans just went through. Knock it the hell off.
Hey, just wanted to say you’re right. And these people here are bad faith commentators. They push things towards hyperbolic statements in the same way the right went nuts in their own way.
Unfortunately I fear this is what we have to come to accept now until everything blows up.
Protip:
Shove your head up your butt and you won’t have to close your eyes to ignore the nazis
Seriously consider what you’re saying here. That PP is a Nazi, he clearly is not, while telling me my head is up my ass
People running for high office that make campaign stops with white supremacists are 100% nazis, no exaggeration necessary.
People that are not nazis don’t tolerate nazis.
If you use the word nazi enough it won’t mean anything, and you will push awayl soft support. They are fascists plain and simple.
Just call them that for now until one of them gets their Hugo boss uniforms on, then you can call them nazis.
If you ignore people that very obviously are nazis, you become a nazi. Be careful.
No, what you’re doing is lazily leveraging the nazi context for your political benefit. PP is not a Nazi for having a photo op or being tangentially associated with some asshole. It’s as lazy as showing pictures of people with Epstein and calling them pedophiles because they were in a photo.
It’s bullshit politics. The sad part is that you will never realize how it’s your credibility that is lost. And unfortunately since you associate with certain values, you lose credibility for the whole. There’s reason to shit on him for spending time with these people. But when you go hyperbolic and dramatically call him a Nazi, you lose the plot
Shoving your head up your ass won’t keep you safe from the nazis.
Good luck, boy.
Lol
I agree, it sucks when Americans try to project their issues onto us.
The dude is aligned with trump and is a fascist. I wouldn’t call them nazis just yet, but they are certainly very, very fascist.
I work in a very conservative workplace in Alberta, and when I call trump a fascist I get zero pushback. In fact, they just nod in agreement. When I say that Peter rabbithait is aligned with trump, they don’t argue against that point either.
The “good ones” know their support for him is short lived, and they will have to piss or get off the pot soon. I hope goodness prevails.
Statements like that are unhelpful.
Spoken like a true nazi
arguably worse, pp is a weasel who would play a nazi for a vote or stop for 2
the guy stnds for whtever serves him best
If it was the other way around he’d never let Carney hear the end of it - “Carney, the guy who had to get someone else to quit in order to keep his seat”.
Politicians gonna politics, no surprise there.
He already didn’t let Carney hear the end of it - “Carney, who was not elected…”
