Ah yes, latin, the native language in latin america, which 'muricans confuse for mexican all the time.
Hey, Spanish is basically modern Latin! Lol
Weirdly does seem to be closer to Latin than Italian. Wonder why that is? Possibly I’m just wrong.
Italy got invaded by so many people it absorbed a lot of from Germanic tribes.
I would assume Spanish would have taken a lot from Arab, but somehow that doesn’t seems the case?
The amount of stupid in that reply is mind boggling.
It’s white AF too lol
Seems like the type of person who doesn’t know why we say Latin versus Hispanic for that region and they type that would call anyone from Latin America just “Mexican”.
Apparently Romanian is the closest current romance language descendant.
Tot nu este aproape de latina
Ladin maybe. But niche compared to Romanian.
I’ve read þat Logudorese Sardinian is þe closest to vulgar Latin in terms of vocabulary and phonology, standard Italian second because of grammar, and Romanian 3rd because of Slavic vocabulary “pollution.” I’ve seen it claimed Logudorese Sardinian differs from Latin by only about 8% (Mario Pei, 1949), standard Italian by 12% (same source), and Ladin diverges by 20% (I haven’t been able to dig up a definitive source on Ladin).
You sometimes write very good comments and then you ruin 'em by using “þ”. Please stop using that annoying letter since it can cause problems for reading, not only for the normal person that don’t know what the sound is but also because people with a SLD may have difficulties.
Reading thorn instead of th isn’t even a tenth as annoying as the haters claim.
I read “pan” because that letter is like a P and confuse me, it take me some seconds to realize
I thought there was still an island in the Mediterranean where Latin isn’t dead.
Latin didn’t really disappear, it changed and split up
AFAIK the only place where latin is commonly used as the main language is Vatican City
You are correct, basically only Vatican actively uses latin these days, and even they don’t really converse in it or anything. And it is “just” church latin, not classical latin, which was the written standard for Roman times, nor vulgar latin, which was what people actually spoke (and which in short evolved into other romance languages we still have these days). There’s still some academic latin in use, but it’s basically disappearing as well, though some universities still allow you to submit your thesis in it etc.
So yeah, latin is very much dead as a native language, but it’s “alive” through other means (a lot of use survive in science and law for example, and it’s still widely taught in different schools and universities and all that). English itself has kinda absorbed a lot of latin, something like 25% of the vocabulary is straight from latin, and I had one professor claim you could technically link up to 75% of the english vocabulary to latin if you accept it’s evolved and/or gone through other languages.
But really, unless you manage to slaughter all the people speaking it in or they stop teaching it to their children and thus it disappears in a relatively short period of time, languages don’t really “die”, they just evolve into something else as time passes. So it can be a bit hard to describe when something as widely used as latin really died
it’s not really commonly used, it’s the official language yes but only a few people actually talk it and they are all in official positions
the only place where latin is commonly used as the main language is Vatican City
And their accent sucks.
Themiscyra?
Ixnay on the islanday
And these people are voting.
They don’t speak Latin in Latin America. The person blotted out is the dumbass.
Sure, they might have a solid head start with sharing it as an ancient root language, but they’re very, very much not speaking Latin natively.
Hell, I bet most doctors know more actual Latin than random speakers in Latin America.
Whoosh
Some people need a joke explained. Don’t hate the messenger.
You replied to a user making fun of the Latin America commentator, and said reply reads as an attempted correction. Perhaps your joke explanation would be better received as a top level comment.
I can’t tell if you’re serious, or trolling at a different level.
I like it, either way.
Way I read it, you’re not the messenger. You would rather be the target audience.
rofl you don’t think I understand how rare latin is? You judgemental pricks are a different breed. A breed of shitstains.
Rofl? In this current year of 2025???
hope that made you feel better!
Try becoming remover
Of course latinos speak Latin!
Otherwise they’d be Spaniards!
It blows some dumb people’s mind when I tell them we don’t even technically speak Spanish. It’s specifically Castilian. Spain has over a dozen different variations that might as well be different languages. And Latin American Spanish includes another half dozen.
Castillian is still Spanish.
adj. Perteneciente o relativo al español (‖ lengua). Léxico español. Sin.: castellano.
https://dle.rae.es/español?m=form
What you said is equivalent to saying that madrileño ir sevillano isn’t castellano. Yeah no, dialects are still part of the language and Castellano is a dialect of Español.
might as well be different languages.
No. Dialects are not different languages. We technically do speak Spanish, you are technically using the word technically wrong. Sorry to be a pedantic asshole but words have meanings.
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Some people need a joke explained. Don’t hate the messenger.
As the “woosher” mentioned, you are not the messenger you think you are. There is nothing in the original comment that indicates they were speaking about the image poster instead of the image comment. You assumed.
And these people are voting…
with “these people” the commentor means the person that thought latin americans spoke latin and perhapt the people who made said Ad. They didn’t mean Latin Americans
Nobody ever tells jokes on Facebook I guess
A key part of pretending to be stupid for laughs is that the audience knows that you are smart enough to know why what you said is funny.
In person, you can smile or wink to let everyone know you’re not being serious, but anonymously online, you just look like a dumbass.
The commenter could’ve saved grace by adding a /s but I don’t know how well that is known with the Facebook crowd. For all I know they would probably think it is some cool haxx0r code doing magic things to their profile.
They could also have added a “(just kidding)” if they don’t speak haxx0r. Anything really.
The second you explain a joke, it’s no longer a joke.
That only holds value if you are sure the audience knows you will be joking, just as Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world explained. Also one could be nit picking and say you don’t explain the joke but the fact that you are joking. :^)
Stultus est
Asinus stultus est
No worries, they’ll find that teacher ad calendas graecas.
Ubi est magister? Magister in colloseum est?
Romanes eunt domus!
People, called Romans go the house?
It’s okay to leave public social media posts unredacted: they’re not state secrets. It’s also okay to post link to (archived) source for accessibility & general usability.
In free nations, publicizing state secrets would be more socially and morally acceptable than publicizing people’s names and faces over mistakes they have made, and the same for if you don’t want to promote those people and their twisted ideals.
Imagine applying that reasoning to the public mistakes businesses or governments have made?
If we’re going to be serious about morality, then breaking accessibility[1] when simpler alternatives do not is more immoral than showing public information[2].
Moreover, with freedom & no reasonable expectation of privacy in public, disclosing non-secret information is just. If people are equal, then
- How does anyone get to decide better than the public matters of public business?
- How does a particular person get to decide for everyone what is a mistake? Couldn’t they be wrong?
Gatekeeping is fraught with its own problems like the gatekeeper putting their judgement on public matters ahead of the public’s. It’s non-egalitarian & defies people’s right to know public affairs, so it’s morally dubious.
- ↩︎
Images of text break much that text or a link to (archived) source do not.
Issues when image lacks text alternative such as link
- usability
- we can’t quote the text without pointless bullshit like retyping it or OCR
- text search is unavailable
- the system can’t
- reflow text to varied screen sizes
- vary presentation (size, contrast)
- vary modality (audio, braille)
- accessibility
- some users can’t read this due to misleading alt text
- users can’t adapt the text for dyslexia or vision impairments
- systems can’t read the text to them or send it to braille devices
- searchability: the “text” isn’t indexable by search engine in a meaningful way
- fault tolerance: no text fallback if image breaks.
Contrary to age & humble appearance, text is an advanced technology that provides all these capabilities absent from images.
- usability
which isn’t immoral ↩︎
You know, I was raised conservative Catholic in the Midwest. Grew up really sheltered in that regard. I specifically remember driving with my family back from church when I was a kid, and my parents had the radio on. The news story mentioned the rising popularity of Latin music. I thought it odd that Gregorian chants and Latin hymns were apparently having a surge in popularity among the general public.
Oh, and then there was the time I got really confused when the priest started talking about the evils of the Youth in Asia. I thought it might be anti-Chinese communist thing. But I couldn’t figure out why the priest would have an entire homily talking about the evils of specifically the young people of Asia. Just so oddly specific.
I’ll publicly embarrass myself here: what’s the context for the youth in Asia thing?
It’s an old SNL skit from the 70s
Euthanasia: legal assisted suicide.
Ah! Gotcha. I feel like a putz, even with the context I didn’t consider saying it out loud lmao
Yup! Catholic Church has long had an opposition to assisted suicide. This would have been back during the time when [Dr. Kevorkian](Jack Kevorkian) was a subject of national discussion. So it’s understandable why the priest would have been talking about it. Meanwhile, I was just a dumb kid in a pew wondering why the hell this priest, who had never been heard being racist against anyone, had this sudden inexplicable hatred for Chinese kids. And not Asians in general, but specifically the youth in Asia!
i mean, there was a brief period in the 90s where Gregorian chants were like, the hot thing.
Swing music also came back for a little while in the '90s. That decade was a nexus point in the space-time continuum.
And it’s been down hill ever since the squirrel nut zippers.
I would give anything to live through the 90s again… preferably with money this time.
The tech advancements, the tech weirdness, the TV shows, the music… everything was just experimental, wild and absurd. Was fucking amazing.
All those glorious transparent electronics
A brief period? It lasted an entire Era (album).
I did have a youth group leader that was quite hostile to east (or probably all of) Asia. He went off on me once when he caught me talking about Judo, berated me about engaging with all that esoteric shit (his words, not mine) and how it’s all unchristian and godless and such.
There was nothing spiritual about my dojo, unless you want to consider bowing to one another an act of ritual significance rather than just courtesy and respect. A respect my parish was decidedly lacking, but when you’re an impressionable kid, having a supposed religious authority put the literal fear of God in you is quite effective at making you question your own judgement rather than others’ hypocrisy.
You mean no problemo
As someone who took like 4 years of Latin in high school I have same issues lol. Its not a crazy post, but dumb!
Caecilius est in hortō. Caecilius in hortō sedet. Canis in atrio est. Canis in atrio laborat.
Ah dog yes
What a great tale, even got to see his villa in Pompeii! I remember being so blown and sad when the whole family’s arc just fucking ends. What a way to learn.
Pretty nice looking villa, I had no idea he lived there!
Also, he apparently died in 62AD in an earthquake, before the Vesuvius covered the place in 79AD
Yeah that was a rug pull lol, although I think the curriculum changed the year I graduated, so we were the last to learn about good caecilius.
Does it count as a native language if you learn it through old latin chorus music in your youth, alongside whatever spoken language?
Depends on if by youth you mean infancy.
It seems unlikely unless that Latin chorus was giving live performances and demonstrating verbs and nouns for you before you could walk.
A secondary language you picked up before full self awareness, sure.
I never said my family was normal.
That’s fair I applaud this Latin chorus on raising a natively bilingual baby potato
Alma mater. E pluribus unum.
English is technically my 4th spoken language, 2nd written language, but since I learned it as a kid, and I have fluency and its also my primary language, I’m just gonna call myself a native speaker, since I practically am.
It’s* also
Listen here you little shit…
I can almost guarantee that your grasp of English is better than their grasp of your first spoken language.
A fellow final fantasy fan.
Estuans interius
Ira vehementi
Estuans interius
Ira vehementi
Sephiroth!
Sephiroth!
Former choir member actually
Haven’t played any FF except FFCC My Life as a King
The one other My Life as a King player!! You exist!
That game had THE BEST music. In fact I’m going to go look up the OST now.
Count again, there’s three of us!
Good old WiiWare games. I remember it now like yesterday 15 years ago.
Speaking to the ad. If you’re talking about any 100 level (probably even 200 level), it’s way more helpful to have the teacher be fluent in the language of the students. Because you need to be able to communicate with them and they don’t know the language yet.
