Foundation says it won’t compromise policy of inclusivity even if that cash would’ve really helped
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“We think you’ve hired too many black people, you now owe us millions of dollars.”
The fact that having money and simply convincing someone to accept it with terms means someone gets to do that in this system is fucking wretched.
You refuse to implement a back door for us in all of your cryptography modules, so we say you hired too many black people and now you owe us the money back.
I keep forgetting that for the rich, bigotry is often more of an excuse than an ideology.
It depends.
For many ‘new’ MAGA conservatives, its kind of a means to an end, yeah. It a part of the culture of feeling victimized. Its why so many bristle at being called racists as a blanket term: they actually aren’t.
But there are certainly old\ gheezers (many leaders) or perpetually online influencers that are legit racists. Or “great replacement theory” tangential believers that really straddle the line.
One of the most unnerving things about rightism is that there seem to be separate versions of the ideology, tailored to specific classes, for the purpose of perpetuating a cycle of abuse and obedience.
Well that’s true of many political “sides,” historical and extant, unfortunately.
See: Lemmygrad.
I think the lesson is to not believe in ideologies so rigidly, and to not revere individual leaders/influencers to such an extent.
To be fair, by the classical definition of left and right (equality vs hierarchy), tankies are right wingers. Authoritarianism is very much a rightist ideology. In fact, i would even argue that things like the “Cultural Revolution” in China were fascist because they demanded absolute loyalty to the state and its ideology on threat of violence. They just hate the other right wingers a lot because the nations they cheer for have been enemies of what I will loosely call “The West”, so they didn’t absorb the beliefs that commonly define western right wingers in the modern age.
It does not matter how much money you do or don’t have, there is no sense pretending there is any sustainable path forward without a conscious commitment to inclusivity.
That’s just it: a sustainable path isn’t in it. They want that to not even be an option. They want to burn it all twice as fast so they can buy bigger yachts.
There’s a joke about whitespace here somewhere, I just know it.
python chooses insolvency over loosening restrictions on rightfully white space
/j
Python refuses to enforce strict whites’ space rules.
(I tried going in that direction first before realizing Python does enforce whitespace rules)
Yeah kinda what it’s known for as far as code nesting goes.
“whitespace not whites space”
Fuck yes. Nerds with basic fucking integrity. Mad respect.
My favourite kind of person
DEI was a solution to a problem. When you remove the solution, what remains is the problem.
DEI was a solution to a problem.
It was strategy for industry and government with an international focus. JP Morgan hires Japanese businessmen to acquire equity in Japanese firms and Samsung hires American bankers to negotiate loans with Wall Street. Nigerian oil executives shake hands with African American State Department staffers to negotiate trans-Atlantic trade deals. Korean native speakers in Seoul make sure American military bases don’t create political headaches for Korean politicians. Middle Eastern dictators in Egypt and Israel and Saudi Arabia met with counterparts who knew their customs and spoke their language.
The goal remained consolidation of wealth into the hands of a handful of (primarily white, American based) oligarchs. But the scope of global commerce required regional HQs and middle-men who had to navigate a kaleidoscope of local organizations and logistics partners.
Trumpism is pulling all that back and trying to return to the old Colonial model of capitalism. Your hierarchy is primarily predicated on your physical identity - White. Christian. Fuckable. Man. - in that descending order. Now we put Donald Trump and Tony Blair into the chairmanship of the Gaza Peace Plan, because we don’t trust any Arabs or Israelis to get the job done. We fuck with India, China, and Mexico on a daily basis, because their heads of state don’t meet our definition of Real Person.
When you remove the solution, what remains is the problem.
The objectives of the current government have shifted substantially from the Nixon to Obama neoliberal era. We are a white nationalist government first and foremost. It isn’t that we still have the same problem. It’s that we have a totally different set of goals.
Anti-DEI (racism) is doomed to fail, because it only works in an imaginary world without interracial/international marriage/families. The racists have cornered themselves in because distinct races is something they make up. The real world includes much more.
the french model of completely banning even the collection of that information, outside of strictly for facilitating medical care, seems like the best way forward imo.
if you have that information, the race supremacists will use it to their own ends…as we are seeing right now with ICE
I’ve seen forms were providing info is optional. At this point, I don’t see why anyone would answer. We can’t even trust governments to use or protect the info for our own good.
it only works in an imaginary world without interracial/international marriage/families
You can go back to the 18th century and see it in practice. Also in apartheid systems like the South African junta and the Hinduvista/Tibetan caste systems. The method works so long as the families at the top of the food chain can exert sufficient control downstream, typically via a mix of funding/staffing large occupying armies and pitting native peoples against one another to the benefit of the foreign ruler.
If you get into the history of the French and Indian War, for instance, you had the English and French colonialists backing various American native tribes in what was effectively a coast-wide war. Similarly, Cortez and Pizarro defeated the Aztec and Inca empires respectively in large part by turning insurgent factions within the empire against the chief monarchs and supporting their insurrection with superior European firepower. The end state of the fail of the local empires was foreign governors playing “Kingmaker” among the native peoples. Then they carved out larger and larger settlements for their own migrant populations, while stoking fear of the natives to encourage loyalty to the foreign crowns.
The real world is not made up of distinct races.
It’s made up of distinct languages and cultures, as well as distinct understood identities and accepted hierarchies. The strategy of Divide and Conquer is an ancient and devastatingly effective one. Our post-WW2 neoliberal turn happened as a necessary rebuttal to Internationalist Communism (which was, itself, fumbled early on via the Soviet-Sino split). But it only needed to persist until the threat of Soviet Era support for anti-colonialist native coalitions faded.
Without a Stalin or Khrushchev or even a Castro or Tito willing to put a thousand guys with guns on a boat and send them to support a Marxist revolt in Columbia or Angola or Vietnam or Afghanistan, there’s no need to pretend we need a Big NATO Tent. No more need for the EU. No more need for economic alliances in the Pacific Rim. Now its every Colonial Empire for themselves. We can go back to merchantilism and juicing our satraps like a bunch of ripe oranges.
No family can sufficient control downstream. That is again imaginary.
And no, the world is not made up of distinct languages and cultures. All continuums. You could find thousands of examples yourself.
No family can sufficient control downstream.
The English Royal Family managed it for centuries. The Spanish and French for nearly as long. The Hapsburg Dynasty dominated European politics for longer still. Get into East Asian dynastic rule or the great empires of Ethiopia and Egypt… FFS, the Caesers reined across the Mediterranean for what? Nearly a millennium?
And no, the world is not made up of distinct languages and cultures. All continuums.
There’s historical continuums that give birth to discrete divisions through geography and social conflict. The Silk Road connects the length of Asia, but the various mountains and deserts and human fortifications form hard divisions between both linguistics and social practices.
Physical and social division over time create a compact social separation between people in the same way it creates distinct speciation at longer distances and time frames.
“FFS” as you say. Put your own family first, instead of theirs, and stay out of others’.
that pic is me when someone offers me to learn javascript
Can I interest you in learning Brainfuck?
ive played with it before
My development policy is to use
black.Honestly I’m all on board with formatters that just make decisions for you. I don’t give a fuck if it’s my preferred style. I just want the entire codebase to be consistent.
I feel vindicated. I thought I was the only one.
The only change I made to black was setting the line length to 120, because its default of 88 is too short and oof that number means something else already.
8 is a lucky number in China. 88 is just double that. Fuck nazis. Stop letting them take things that never belonged to them from the rest of the world
There’s some truth to this, but I don’t want to be the white guy telling the new hire in the US in 2025 “our line length is 88”. They probably won’t think anything of it, but if they do they probably won’t think I’m into Chinese superstition.
You should just tell them you are, problem solved!
My current team is using 120 too and honestly I don’t like it. 88 is great when you work with split screen and I do that a lot. Short lines are easier to read than wrapped lines for my brain.
My terminal with a comfortably large font, full screen at 1080p, has 238 columns. That should be enough to split screen 2x120 column editors for all but the very longest lines, and you have even more room if you reduce the font size a point or have a 1440p monitor.
These terms included affirming the statement that we ‘do not, and will not during the term of this financial assistance award, operate any programs that advance or promote DEI [diversity, equity, and inclusion], or discriminatory equity ideology in violation of Federal anti-discrimination laws,’
Insane. I can’t even fathom adding such a condition. And to a well established org with a positive track record.
Toxic offer. Wouldn’t even be able to say that inclusivity is a good thing.
wait. so its not just about spending the money they are giving on dei? its saying they won’t even with other funds. What if the other funds are mandated to be used for dei? This is just disingenuous. Having a grant that dictates how other donations and grants are used is ridiculous and it was intended to not be taken.
Not only that, but if they do engage in “DEI activities” (definition not included) then they reserve the right to take back the entire grant and and previous money the python foundation had recieved from them in the past. Its a total poison pill, and if this sort of language is widespread in government grants its going to completly gut research in the USA.
Yeah seriously, imagine saying that out loud. No being fair and including everyone!
I very rarely do any python development, but it sounds like it’s time to make a donation.
And that’s what made me finally donate to Python after a little over a decade of using it.
It never occurred to me to donate to a language!
I donate to languages daily by coming up with new words for free! Entguavisation Tascratulusly
That must be typescript.
🎶🎶 I use a word that don’t mean nothin’, like loopdid. 🎶🎶
I don’t really like Python, but I’m also tempted to donate just to support them for this.
the terms included a provision that if the PSF was found to have voilated that anti-DEI diktat, the NSF reserved the right to claw back any previously disbursed funds, Crary explained.
“This would create a situation where money we’d already spent could be taken back, which would be an enormous, open-ended financial risk,” the PSF director added.
“Part of the problem here is all the uncertainties,” Crary told us. “Even if we wanted to give up anything that might be considered [DEI] work - which we don’t - part of the risk here is that all these restrictions are new, the language is very broad … I had no interest in being the test case.”
Sounds like a really awful deal; get some funding, but the unpredictable and corrupt US government gets opportunities to bankrupt you.
I don’t do software development, but I am enough of a nerd to know what python.
Good on them. The American far-right (and it’s proxies) need to be shown that they are compromised individuals that lack integrity.
How do donations dome with strings? I’ve never…
I think that’s just a bribe in that case isn’t it?
No. It’s called earmarking. It’s super common. I can do it at my local university.
Here’s $100 but you have to spend it on materials for research, not executive salaries. It’s called a restricted donation. You may hear that colleges and universities have million dollar endowments but still send out fundraising emails. This is because you might get a $200k donation from an alumni that is only to be used on tuition for student athletes and, yeah, you take that money because that means $200k that you don’t need to spend there… But that you can only spend there.
So you’ve got to keep that money around unless you use it for those things.
All grants come with strings. You can go to grants.gov and click on hundreds of them.
I don’t know where you donate, but Open Collective doesn’t have a field for “enter your demands to accept this donation”
There’s just no way to do that
I’m sure you’re aware that businesses, especially with donations of that size, might engage in emailing contacts prior to donating…
No. Some do, but all the donations I’ve gotten from businesses on OC were just made.
Lots of companies just tell their staff how much, and they hung on OC and make those donations. They don’t see a point to contacting them.
Grants aren’t donations.
Here’s my $1000 donation, but you must remove one testicle from each member of your team…regardless of their assigned sex at birth. For $2000, we would like two. Thank you!
I don’t know where you donate, but Open Collective doesn’t have a field for “enter your demands to accept this donation”
There’s just no way to do that
You could contact the company directly if you were doing a large donation/wanted to negotiate.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Ever since Guido stepped down I’m glad I rowed in behind Python. I like the guy, but the leadership there now has just been unimpeachable on issues like this, same with the local chapter in my country.
Imagine, despite pythons coming in all sorts of diverse patterns, having to hire only albino ones.
