• Vespair@lemmy.zipEnglish
    273·
    7 days ago

    …are people really paying for a music subscription service to listen to the same music on repeat? I pay a service because I listen to like at least 4 new albums every week, minimum.

    • Twipped@l.twipped.social
      9·
      6 days ago

      I pay for Apple Music (well, technically I get it as part of Apple One) for one reason: the library matching function. I have half a gig of mp3s on my home computer, many of which are not on any streaming service, and apple makes them all available to every device I own.

      For me, thats worth the monthly price.

    • TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz
      8·
      6 days ago

      Me too. However I recognize that many people are content to listen to the same things they enjoyed in high school forever. In which case they definitely do not need streaming

    • TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3·
      6 days ago

      this post is just to placate a group of people. i prefer streaming for new music friday. i also don’t want another crate or hard drive of shit i lost interest in.

        • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
          32·
          6 days ago

          I don’t this works with all music.

          The first few listens I thought it was garbage. But I decided it must be me who is wrong, not everyone else.

          • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            8·
            6 days ago

            Or, that taste is subjective and that there is no right and wrong. You are allowed to not like something others do.

            • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
              3·
              6 days ago

              This is true, but you should really give something a good few listens before you come to a conclusion. Good things can turn bad just as much as bad things turn good.

              • Vespair@lemmy.zipEnglish
                3·
                6 days ago

                I truly wonder where in my post I implied that I am drawing significant conclusions without giving something a good few listens. Again, I think you are making assumptions of my listening habits based on severly limited information presented to you.

                • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  6 days ago

                  Because if I listened to a minimum of 4 new albums a week then I wouldn’t have the time to repeat any.

                  It was applying your statistics to my habits.

              • buttnugget@lemmy.world
                2·
                6 days ago

                No, I think you’re absolutely right and it’s comforting to know there are others who do this too. I have a kind of 3-5-7 trial period for getting into new music. If it’s crap but I want to give it a chance, I’ll do 3-5 album plays; if it’s ok but has potential I might not see, 5-7 plays. Anything challenging but enjoyable gets minimum 10 plays.

                About the self inducement, that is making me question myself a little. There are things that I’ve tried over and over to get into that I just cannot no matter what, but I’m seriously questioning if it really is possible to “make” yourself like something through type of, I guess familiarity?

                • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
                  2·
                  6 days ago

                  I think the counter argument to self inducement is that I can really go off something that I hear too many times (usually on the radio). Even if the first listen wasn’t too bad.

      • Vespair@lemmy.zipEnglish
        5·
        6 days ago

        This is making some significant assumptions, don’t you think? That I sample the buffet does not mean that I don’t also cherish and return to familiar recipes.

          • Vespair@lemmy.zipEnglish
            6·
            6 days ago

            I have no kids, no pets, and a job where I can listen to music the entirety of my shifts while working. I have music on in some capacity probably an average of 12 hours a day. 4 albums a week, even when listening to them each 6 six times, is a fraction of my listening.

            Music listening is my primary “hobby” and interest.

              • Vespair@lemmy.zipEnglish
                3·
                6 days ago

                Dunno if I go actively searching for difficult music, so I may not have the best answer for that specifically, but here are 5 albums I consider hidden gems or underappreciated:

                Horse Bitch - RIP Pistachio

                Tattle Tale - Sew True

                Gaytheist - The Mustache Stays

                Codefendants - This Is Crime Wave

                Irist - Gloria (actually an EP, if you’ll allow it).

                These probably won’t take you 5+ listens to appreciate, but I do think they’re smaller releases worthy of greater attention. Hopefully that’s close enough for you. ✌️

  • dellhiver@sh.itjust.works
    16·
    6 days ago

    I did return to my old flac and mp3 collection. Got Foobar working again, found a nice skin and I’m rediscovering music that I that skipped over. I buy second-hand CDs when I find them. I’ve managed to get a digital copy of all my favourite albums and tracks.

    I will keep Spotify though. A long time ago, I got friends to share their Discovery and Release Radar playlists. With my own, I have a nice spread of recommendations.

    I need regular new music. Call it a search for unexpected dopamine. Spotify still picks new tracks that I really like. I also like Spotify Connect and the easily shared collaborative playlists.

    The UK has less alternatives for music discovery. I don’t like Radio, way too much talking and ads.

    I’ve got rid of Netflix, Prime. I’m getting Disney+ for free at the moment. Back to physical for film and TV.

    For now, Spotify recommendations is worth the cost of entry.

  • mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org
    4·
    5 days ago

    Dont worry guys my CD collection is increasing (i extract it onto hard drives too). I’ll open a free music museum when all goes to shit.

  • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online
    123·
    6 days ago

    This is why I download all the music I want. I still listen to it primarily on youtube, but it is a ‘just in case’. I also never paid for music.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        5 days ago

        I doubt they notice. Most artists either get income directly from fans at concerts, via merch, or through explicit patronage (Bandcamp, Patreon, etc).

        The money they get from streaming isn’t remotely enough to support a professional career. Streaming is more about promotion - to get you in the door at the next concert or promote a product with a real revenue stream - than actual income.

  • kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    165·
    7 days ago

    Okay, but I can access my full library from anywhere at full quality from multiple devices, I have several 5,000 plus song playlists with little to no overlap between a few of them and I have had CDs lost or stolen and had drive failures delete digital libraries. But sure.

    • dmention7@midwest.social
      4·
      5 days ago

      Get a library card! My local small town library has access to a surprising number of nearby libraries, and if I’m willing to wait a week or two for the item to be available and get transferred, I’ve been able to get some decently non-mainstream stuff for free. For more obscure stuff, bandcamp is pretty awesome.

    • Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      2·
      5 days ago

      I do have a Qobuz subscription, I just rip whatever I want to listen and stream from my home server.

      You can also do a free trial for a month and just use a disposable e-mail to redo it every month, if you don’t want to pay anything.

  • julianwgs@discuss.tchncs.de
    10·
    7 days ago

    I am very happy with Navidrome for over a year now. It also reminds me how I listened to whole albums when I was a teenager, what I now started doing again.

  • happydoors@lemmy.world
    7·
    6 days ago

    I think the young generation has seen the pattern of clowns generations above them, either relying on ad-radio or Spotify, and have turned to piracy or physical media for this. My BIL recently got into buying CDs from goodwill as a good example. YT video essay I lived through the consumer generation of physical hoarding so Spotifydl is fine for me.

    • Prox@lemmy.world
      8·
      6 days ago

      Have you seen concert ticket prices lately?? Even small to mid size bands playing at 1500 person venues are $60+ for GA. It’s nuts.

      • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
        2·
        6 days ago

        I saw Castle Rat in Brooklyn the other day (great show) and it was like $25 + $10 of bs “fees”.

        I don’t see many bigger bands anymore because the tickets are more than double that.

      • kamen@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        6 days ago

        Depends on where you are and depends on organisation. If it’s a small venue and a DIY type of thing, chances are that the merch money and at least part of the entrance is going directly to the band (as opposed to the 1% kickback they’d get for streaming).

    • BlackVenom@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      6 days ago

      So what you can indefinitely subscribe though? Try thrift shops, used CD stores, etc if you want to buy.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        5 days ago

        Try thrift shops, used CD stores, etc if you want to buy.

        If you’re buying secondhand, that also does nothing for the artists. You might as well just pirate at that point, unless you’re deeply into the vinyl scene or something

    • absentbird@lemmy.world
      1·
      6 days ago

      Over time the streaming options are almost certainly more expensive.

      Personally I am an advocate for piracy, an economic system that requires the enforcement of artificial scarcity is not one I consent to bind me. We need a system that rewards artists without locking culture and art behind a paywall.

      The only reason it works the way it does now is that music used to come from physical totems. The internet requires a new and progressive approach to intellectual products.

  • EldritchFemininity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    5·
    7 days ago

    They mock you for subscribing to an online service. I mock you for subscribing to WoW instead of FFXIV. We are not the same.

    (Insert FFXIV free trial meme here)

    • MourningDove@lemmy.zip
      3·
      7 days ago

      FFXIV is just a drip pageant. Seems like it’s little else but people standing around role playing fetishes.

      • EldritchFemininity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        11·
        6 days ago

        And WoW isn’t? The big advantage FFXIV has there is dye channels on their armor instead of recolored sets (though WoW is better in the way you collect transmogs without having to actually store the item somewhere). And you’ve clearly never been to Goldshire or seen the lvl 1 trolls dancing naked on mailboxes in Orgrimmar. WoW is full of people ERPing.

        The biggest difference between the two is that WoW doesn’t give a damn about the story and each xpac is obsolete when the new one releases, while FFXIV puts the story first with each xpac being a new chapter and keeps content as evergreen as it can. WoW also caters to their endgame raiders above everyone else, while FFXIV claims to put casual players first (though whether or not this is true is hotly debated in the community at any given time).

        • MourningDove@lemmy.zip
          1·
          6 days ago

          So you successfully pointed out how the players of both games are obnoxious and ruin any incentive to play either title.

          And it’s funny how you claim that Wow is full of people ERPing as if it were somehow different- right after I said the same of FFXIV.

          • EldritchFemininity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            1·
            6 days ago

            That’s the thing about multiplayer games - no matter the game, people never change. Some games incentivize different behaviors, but people will be people and will ruin any game if you let them. I think FFXIV does a much better job in this regard by incentivizing players to treat new players more nicely than WoW does, but that’s my personal experience. You can meet assholes in any game.

            And I wasn’t claiming that FFXIV doesn’t have ERP. Merely pointing out the hypocrisy of criticizing it when WoW has the exact same issues that you criticized FFXIV for having.

            Besides, this is all a heavy discussion for what was just referencing two memes.

            • MourningDove@lemmy.zip
              1·
              6 days ago

              So basically you’re turning this discussion into an advertisement for a cringey ERP game. Gonna end this here.