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Cake day: October 25th, 2023

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  • I quick scanned a lot of the comments here and many of them are answering your TITLE statement about car brands but the body of your question is about EVs, this is entirely different.

    Experience with past ICE dealer service has little to nothing to do with future EV service. Many big name ICE dealers with great historical reputations are completely incapable of handling significant EV problems at the local dealer level.

    Wonderful supportive delightful annual oil changes do not translate to software, battery pack, diagnostic capabilities. Many dealers do not even have qualified EV service techs.

    Ideally your EV will have few problems. Ironically this is a problem for the dealers because repair is their biggest income source. If you’re looking for best EV service, you need to restrict your comparison to actual EV service.




  • “… the hotel we will be at has Tesla superchargers.

    To be clear, Tesla Superchargers are “near” the hotel, they are not part of the hotel services. I’ve stayed in places where the Superchargers are right in the hotel parking lot, I’ve also been to a hotel that claimed Superchargers but they were two miles away. FYI

    “… Can an EV6 use the Tesla chargers?

    No! Okay there are a small handful of magicdock capable Superchargers but they are rare and unlikely in the extreme.

    " - Will we have to download an app to use the tesla charging network?"

    No! With Tesla it’s very simple, just plugin. No fuss, no muss, no apps. The rental agency will be billed for the charge and they will pass it on to your bill.

    Not asked, “How do you find the chargers?

    The Tesla will tell you where the chargers are located and recommend one based upon your charge status. Selecting it from screen will offer to auto route you to it and automatically begin preconditioning the battery for fast charging.

    Based upon your unfamiliarity with EVs, I strongly recommend you go Tesla and only Tesla.

    Part of Tesla’s normal purchase procedure is a series of brief training videos. These videos are available via Tesla and Youtube. I suggest watching them before your first drive. If you have time, schedule a test drive with your nearest Tesla showroom. It’s fun and there’s no obligation or cost.

    If you go non-Tesla:

    You cannot use the Tesla Superchargers.

    You will need to download apps for charging and possibly apps to even find the chargers, depending upon the car. You may have to know to manually pre-condition the battery or be completely unable to do so, depending upon the car. I’m not familiar with the EV6 amenities.

    Caution!

    Rental agencies have a long tradition of not having the car you reserved and offering an “equivalent”.

    Often rental agencies require you to charge up the car before returning it. Look carefully at the penalty and decide when the time comes what the effort is worth to you. Depending upon location support and contract details, it might be worthwhile to just pay the small penalty.






  • 27 MPG at say around $3.20, so $3.20 to go 27 miles.

    An EV should give you around 4 miles per KwH, so call it 8 KwH to go 27 miles.

    $0.129 /KwH times 8 KwH is $1.03 to got the same 27 miles, or 1/3 the cost.

    DCFC would cost more, approaching gas cost, but at 50 miles round trip they should not be significant.

    If you get a glass roof vehicle, I recommend a roof shade for summer in the south.


  • The tipping point has already begun. Range and charging speed increases are less important than availability of chargers, both DCFC and Level 2 chargers for condos and apartments.

    Cost is the major driver in two areas. While the cost of a new EV is in the range of an average new ICE vehicle, there is very little available on the lower price end and the most significant lower price EV has been discontinued. It was discontinued for good reason, cost of production. Key to continuing up the S-curve is lower price vehicles at volume. This means manufacturing the vehicles at a profit. Starting out selling vehicles at a loss as you become established is common, but you can’t do this at volume.

    Many/most/all of the ICE OEMs are supporting their EV line losses from their ICE profits. There is a very real time limit on the ability to continue doing that as ICE sales decline. If the EVs don’t become profitable on their own, something will break. Either the company will go rapidly bankrupt, or the company will drop back to ICE only and slowly fade to a specialized shadow of itself.

    My personal prediction is that in a mere two years, the future is EV will be undeniable by even the most ardent.