this is Habryka talking about how his moderating skills are so powerful it takes lesswrong three fucking years to block a poster who’s actively being a drain on the site

here’s his reaction to sneerclub (specifically me - thanks Oliver!) calling LessOnline “wordy racist fest”:

A culture of loose status-focused social connection. Fellow sneerers are not trying to build anything together. They are not relying on each other for trade, coordination or anything else. They don’t need to develop protocols of communication that produce functional outcomes, they just need to have fun sneering together.

He gets us! He really gets us!

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    How it started: gonna build the robotgod but nice

    How it went: wow we need to teach people how to think.

    How it ended: we cant do basic things people have done since we decided to walk upright because some people are mean.

    Even 4chan can trade/coordinate/and have functional outcomes, sure often for evil. But most of us are not even active on lw. Skill issue.

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      Eponymous even. Guess they don’t know who named sneerclub.

      Mister Sneerclub of the Newport Sneerclubs, of course.

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      we cant do basic things

      That’s giving them too much credit! They’ve generated the raw material for all the marketing copy and jargon pumped out by the LLM companies producing the very thing they think will doom us all! They’ve served a small but crucial role in the influence farming of the likes of Peter Thiel and Elon Musk. They’ve served as an entry point to the alt-right pipeline!

      dath ilan?

      As a self-certified Eliezer understander, I can tell you dath ilan would open up a micro-prediction market on various counterfactual ban durations. Somehow this prediction market would work excellently despite a lack of liquidity and multiple layers of skewed incentives that should outweigh any money going into it. Also Said would have been sent to a reeducation camp, quiet city and sterilized denied UBI if he reproduces for not conforming to dath ilan’s norms much earlier.

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      Even 4chan can trade/coordinate/and have functional outcomes, sure often for evil.

      To give a rather notorious example, there’s the He Will Not Divide Us flag in 2017, which the 'channers tracked down after only 38 hours, despite Shia LeBouf’s attempts to keep the location hidden.

      The death penalty of not just you but your whole family if you copy that floppy.

      The future media conglomerates want. (okay maybe not the “death penalty” part - dead people don’t make money)

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        Re the flag.

        Not just that, but they also on a less malicious case id4chan, and now id6chan were also 4chan productions iirc. (With others from the internet also helping). Which documents all kinds of strange warhammer lore, the /tg/ interpretation of that and their various hate for certain authors of the games. For example https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Robin_Cruddace

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          The flag was the most obvious one I could think of, given how many eyes were already on HWNDU and how swiftly they found it. In retrospect, I should’ve chosen 1d4chan/1d6chan as my example, given how large and robust it is as a wiki.

          The SCP Foundation arguably qualifies as well - it began on /x/ as a random post, before morphing into the ongoing collaborative writing project we all know and love.

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            Well, the first thing I thought about was also the flag (but more because people brought it up a while back), and TIL about the SCP foundation (despite me talking about 4chan from time to time I never have been a channer, I have only very rarely posted some stuff in the roguelikes topic, and left when people let the neo-nazis in who kept calling people who asked a bit of money for a roguelike jews. Just sucks they never heard of the nazi bar stuff.

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      The death penalty of not just you but your whole family if you copy that floppy.

      thermonuclear ballistic missile on lightcone infra for all the time and brains they have wasted