NRA been quiet right
Here you go
I thought tyranny was when the government tells you to not throw trash in the river or pays for kids public elementary?
/s
Tyranny is when the government doesn’t recognize my right as the divine head of my family and king of my castle - not allowing me to expose others to infectious disease, forcing me to ensure that my children learn how to read and count, stopping me from buying a gun after beating my wife, and denying me the ability to purchase something that has been marketed specifically to my Oppositional Defiance Disorder (ivermectin, raw milk, probably fucking asbestos eventually); while having the gall to allow black people to vote and gay people to get married.
They’re fine with tyranny as long as they see it as “their” tyranny. And they’ll still be blaming the gays and the immigrants when they themselves are dragged off to the gulag.
It’s time for the democrats to take up arms then. It’ll probably start a civil war again.
A house divided against itself cannot stand.
The only moral
abortiontyranny is myabortiontyranny.
Like how election fraud completely disappeared once Trump won?
They are afraid they will find some
They
are afraidknow they will find some
It’s only fraud when they lose. Snowflakes don’t like to lose.
This is that tyranny you were always talking about
Reminds me of Alex Jones; or to be more precise, of the KnowledgeFight (play on InfoWars) podcast. All through 2025 they are commenting on Alex’ praise of Trumplon: “You should know that this is exactly what you pretended to be fighting against all those years.”
It really shows that the alt-right and related movements were never about freedom. It’s always been about the hate, mostly hate of others.
Alex Jones on the Patriot Act in 2003
The bill itself is stamped “Confidential - Not for Distribution.” Upon reading the analysis and bill, I was stunned by the scientifically crafted tyranny contained in the legislation. The Justice Department Office of Legislative Affairs admits that they had indeed covertly transmitted a copy of the legislation to Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, (R-Il) and the Vice President of the United States, Dick Cheney as well as the executive heads of federal law enforcement agencies.
[…]
SECTION 501 (Expatriation of Terrorists) expands the Bush administration’s “enemy combatant” definition to all American citizens who “may” have violated any provision of Section 802 of the first Patriot Act. (Section 802 is the new definition of domestic terrorism, and the definition is “any action that endangers human life that is a violation of any Federal or State law.”) Section 501 of the second Patriot Act directly connects to Section 125 of the same act. The Justice Department boldly claims that the incredibly broad Section 802 of the First USA Patriot Act isn’t broad enough and that a new, unlimited definition of terrorism is needed.
[…]
SECTION 322 removes Congress from the extradition process and allows officers of the Homeland Security complex to extradite American citizens anywhere they wish. It also allows Homeland Security to secretly take individuals out of foreign countries.
[…]
SECTION 402 is titled “Providing Material Support to Terrorism.” The section reads that there is no requirement to show that the individual even had the intent to aid terrorists.
Not gonna click anything from a jesus-is-savior domain but I think it’s blatantly obvious Alex Jones is a huckster that peddled supplements and lies.
Occasionally he might have accidentally made a salient point but he has never been and never will be a good source of information. It’s ironic his show’s name is also what he’s doing, fighting a war on information and truth with his bullshit and lies.
The point is this
“You should know that this is exactly what you pretended to be fighting against all those years.”
Alex Jones has always been a fucking nut, but the beliefs he holds now are antithetical to the beliefs he had then. There was a brief period where he was popular in more left leaning circles because criticism of the Patriot Act and the War in Iraq was not popular, and he was genuinely one of the first and loudest voices.
The concerning this is that he is cheering for things that he would have actively decried then. Before Trump was the nominee, he was not pro Trump. There is something strange with these MAGA cult figures - where their beliefs are subsumed into a devotion to their God figure.
Armed minorities are harder to oppress.
Organized armed minorities make governments afraid.
Get organized, train.
It’s that or lie down and take it.
I told Americans for weeks now to go meet minorities in their communities, offer to help them organize and arm. Then help them resist.
They’ll fight you about it.
I’ve been called every name you can imagine. Told they would all be killed in the streets (very possible I admit but not the point), I was reported a lot and given bans for inciting violence. Many of those posts have subsequently been deleted. I was attacked so much I shut my original account and use two new accounts so I don’t unintentionally dox myself.
Now it’s pretty common to see these comments.
This sounds good but tell that to the black panthers.
I wonder what’ll happen when they raid a house belonging to one of the trigger-happy gun collectors
They’ll lie down before their master.
A solid majority of the 2nd amendment crowd will immediately ask what they can do to lick the boot harder. Those motherfuckers love jackbooted authoritarianism as long as it’s aimed at the right minorities.
See the Breonna Taylor case or one of the many, many instances where dumbfuck no-knock raids got a cop put on GoFundMe. If the gun owner survives the encounter, they’re likely to be prosecuted for not magically knowing the home invaders were cops, or not believing “Police! Police!” (because everyone knows only cops can shout that). The cops will definitely shoot back, though, and there’s a high probability that the gun owner will not survive the initial encounter. Still, if enough cops get put on back window stickers, they’ll start exercising some discretion.
I always yell fbi when I’m robbing places that used to mean federal warrant. No idea what that shit means these days the fbi is a clown show. I’ll probably just switch to yelling robbery in the future.
If the cops or ICE knock down your door, they are looking for any excuse to kill you. I’m not worried about surviving, let alone prosecution. I’m opening fire on anyone who kicks in my door. And no, I don’t have to stumble fuck around to get a weapon in hand. Catch me on the shitter. GTG.
And now that I have a brown (legal) immigrant wife, the stakes are suddenly real.
One the same day Rittenhouse got off, a guy who defended himself against this exact thing was acquitted. But since the weapon he used wasn’t properly registered to him (a charge which the judge for Rittenhouse shrugged off and tossed on a whim) that guy got 30 years in spite.
They’ll find the loopholes to achieve the desired outcome.
Who dat?
Rittenhouse or Andrew Coffee IV?
https://reason.com/2021/11/22/man-faces-30-year-sentence-self-defense-andrew-coffee-iv-rittenhouse/
I realized it had been a while since I read about it so I did a little trip down memory lane and can correct a few points: he got 10 years, but had faced 30. Also the circumstances of the firearm possession were more different than I recalled: Coffee wasn’t allowed to have one and Rittenhouse just smuggled one.
In most of the US, there is no legal requirement of registering a weapon to a person. I think you’re confusing that with the Wisconsin law restricting the unsupervised use of dangerous weapons by those under 18.
They will turn on them. Just like how they turned on Meat Loaf when he died of COVID.
The homeowner will roll out with a gun and immediately be killed in a hail of bullets, despite acting entirely within their rights. No ICE agents will face any consequences, and the warrantless raids will continue. That’s what usually happens anyway. The 2nd amendment is a farce; law enforcement can legally kill you for exercising your right to bear arms if they want to.
Home owner doesn’t roll out anywhere, he starts blasting the door knowing it’s not gonna end well
Still, better than not doing anything. Make these fuckers afraid to go breaking into places in the night.
I’d prefer to die with my boots on, thank you very much. Hell, the pigs have trained us, by their actions, that if they knock down the door, they’re there to kill.
They’ll just start knocking the house over with bulldozers like Fallujah, or bomb them like they did in Philly.
The MOVE bombings are a good example of how deep the cowardice of racism is.
Hell the KKK largely formed in response to Americans getting military training in World War 1.
Drone strikes are a very real fear
Because capitalism has beaten every last will I have.
It won’t get better because we are, in fact, waiting to die.
Dear other countries: don’t let the bastards win. They already have here.
Edit: I’m depressed as fuck, please don’t let my doomsaying hurt you. Sorry.
Hell yea brother I’m waiting with you 💀
No I feel you. It’s a bad time to be American.
2A guy here. for the record assault weapons should be banned or regulated to fuckall, and all firearms should be registered to licensed Americans.
I’m not saying anything too loudly because it’s bad tactics to give away your position when in a conflict.
nobody knows who or what is behind your door. use that to your advantage.
that is all.
Says pro2a…then says ban and license everything so the gov has a registry…
Pressing X for doubt really hard on this one
eat shit if you believe that weapons shouldn’t be registered to licensed and trained individuals.
without a registry and path to licensing children will keep getting killed in schools, people will keep getting killed at public events.
A registery isn’t going to magically solve people shooting each other…and no I don’t believe there should be a registry…you know why? Because when fascist are charge like right now, do you think they’ll let minorities own or purchase weapons to protect themselves?
A registry and licensing is not and will never solve our gun violence issues, because we don’t have a gun problem, we have a societal problem.
it’s a mental health problem, not a societal problem. and the best way to ensure that violent smooth brain assholes don’t get guns is to register them and ensure they are trained and licensed.
stop acting like a troll. registry and licensing works in other countries just fine. perhaps we wouldn’t have as many of those “societal issues” if there was more gun regulation, specifically assault weapons.
there’s no “magic bullet” that’s going to solve everything, but doing nothing does nothing.
No it is not just a mental health problem. And the reason it works in other countries is because they A) dont have anywhere near the amount of firearms we do in civ hands and b) because they have safety nets for their citizens.
I’ve not said to not do anything. I’ve said we need to work on our society. Doing half this list would cut our violent crime in half in under a decade. Registration and licensing would not do a damn thing.
Single payer healthcare, so people can get mental health without going broke and avoiding it. Or turning to suicide, which is 2/3rds of our firearm deaths.
Reform prisoners, not lock them away for forever and rob them of ever being a productive member of society.
Get rid of for profit prisons, so we’re not turning an addict into someone who gets out of prison and can’t get a job because they carry a felony.
End qualified immunity so the 1/40 gun deaths aren’t from police who just kill people and get away with it.
Increase our school funding 10 fold. Build more schools, so class sizes can be 10-15 kids max per teacher. Not 30-40+
Solidify abortion rights into law, why the hell it’s been left to the courts for so long is insane. More unwanted children doesn’t create mentally stable people.
well, the interesting thing is that Karl Marx himself supported worker’s right to bear arms, funnily enough.
knowing this, i’ve completely changed my point of view on firearms. yes, they do a lot of harm and definitely should be dealt with cautiously. and also it’s completely beyond any meaningful stance that facebook allows pictures of firearms, but not naked breasts.
but apart from that, the issue of firearms is more interesting than it seems at first glance, and i guess a re-evaluation is warranted.
I mean, no one has tried to break into our houses yet.
You should become a 2A person, and get real loud about this. Let the Gestapo know that their choice of career is putting their lives at risk
Every time I get loud about it I get banned from Reddit or Facebook or Lemmy.world
You’ve had 2 comments removed for advocating violence, and a slap-on-the-wrist temp ban from an obnoxious automated bot in a troll community.
No meaningful bans.
On this account
And advocating violence is exactly what I’m talking about getting banned for
So wait, are you admitting that you are ban evading?
Oh I 100% am on reddit ;)
Every time I get loud about it I get banned from Reddit or Facebook or Lemmy.world
This implies you’ve been banned from all three.
Lemmy isn’t reddit and if you want it to be, you should leave
Ban evading is still against instance rules whether you like it or not. If you don’t, maybe it’s you that should leave.
I live in the rural area of one of the most red states.
I am also as far left as someone can be before the horseshoe turns into authoritarianism again.
The left is armed. We just have the decades of experience necessary to know that you don’t advertise your capabilities. Especially in an open forum like the fucking internet.
deleted by creator
Be the flames you wish to see in the world.
The US is the biggest joke of a country, only the joke is not the least bit funny.
Well, it’s a conservative joke, so… yeah.
My 00 buckshot is allowed to enter ICE agents who don’t have a warrant.
I keep seeing this nonsense being parroted as though these pigs are going to burst in while you’re ready and waiting.
Surely they won’t come in and kill you while you’re asleep, right? No, that could never happen…
No knock warrants are stupidly dangerous for the victim and police. Personally if the SS are knocking my door down, and I can certainly say no one else is going to do this at any time, I’m comfortable with making my own terms. My life is going to hopefully cost more than equal loss. I’d rather fight till I die then die in a hole, they can torture and rape my corpse, I’ll be done with it before then.
Having firearms for protection is so they’re within reach and ready…if you lock up your fire extinguisher then it’s pretty fucking useless if you have a fire.
I get your point, but let’s be serious. That point is about being responsible. How often do fire extinguishers get kids killed?
The question is how often are they not used and kids die in fires?
Same question is, how often are kids killed by the police?
Idk but i don’t think fires are all that common, and we have plenty of other mechanisms to prevent fires from even happening.
OTOH, guns being stored incorrectly is for sure far higher than any fire death you are trying to make equivalent.
I am not strawmanning you here, but i am calling you out for being disingenuous. Like I said:
I get your point, but let’s be serious. That point is about being responsible.
Please don’t do backflips to justify irresponsible gun owners. That is disgusting.
The strawman is that you assume children would ever be in their home. If the guns are behind locked doors away from children, they’re secured.
The strawman is that you assume children would ever be in their home.
Why would that be a wrong assumption? I am not sure what you are getting at here.
Ya. I mean. They don’t have a warrant. They’re trespassing.
The issue is law enforcement won’t serve a warrant in the blind. They do their research. They know who they’re about to take down.
So if it’s just a migrant family trying to get by. Sure. They’ll knock the doors down guns drawn like in the tv shows.
But it you a coked up methhead with traps all over your property in rural Georgia they’ll conveniently not have enough probable cause.
America is a messed up country.
Taking notes… become a methhead. Got it. But how can I eat without teeth?
deleted by creator
“You might beat the rap, but you won’t beat the ride.”
This memo may not hold legal weight, but that won’t mean much when ICE black-bags you and sends you to a Salvadoran gulag from which there is no escape and no contact with legal services.
SovCit “jurisprudence” says you can if the flag has a gold fringe.
That would be the case if the executive branch still cared about what the judicial branch has to say or involved the whole legislative branch in the decision making process. However, they don’t and their bulldozer approach is met with very little resistance.
Or in short: Being right doesn’t help you a lot if you’re being right while already in their concentration camp in El Salvador.
Literally everyone I know who is in favor of 2A is against this. They’re “being real quiet” because you don’t interact with them and have no line of communication with them outside of Twitter trolls
deleted by creator
Why would you expect someone to put their life on the line for you when you spout off about them all being lunatics? They’re at home with their family ready to protect their own home from tyranny as it comes to their own front door. They’re not assembling an army to take care of you too. You hate them, so defend yourself if you want to.
Besides, my entire point is about how fucking stupid it is to be all like “I’m not hearing anything from those people I never talk to, curious isn’t it?” I literally do not care in the slightest about a might-as-well-be-copypasted rant I’ve heard 10000 times from people who might as well be the exact same person as you.
deleted by creator
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA what the actual fuck is wrong with you.
deleted by creator
You don’t actually think saying crazy shit like this to people is going to change anyone’s mind about anything do you? If anything this kind of talk makes people more entrenched in their opinions. So you’re just venting, which is understandable, but you’re wrong to take it out on a stranger regardless of if you think a political disagreement makes them subhuman. You need therapy.
