NRA been quiet right
They’re fine with tyranny as long as they see it as “their” tyranny. And they’ll still be blaming the gays and the immigrants when they themselves are dragged off to the gulag.
It’s time for the democrats to take up arms then. It’ll probably start a civil war again.
A house divided against itself cannot stand.
The only moral
abortiontyranny is myabortiontyranny.
Like how election fraud completely disappeared once Trump won?
They are afraid they will find some
They
are afraidknow they will find some
It’s only fraud when they lose. Snowflakes don’t like to lose.
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I’m sorry, I can’t figure out what you meant to say with “not about to people,” and it’s driving me nuts.
Not about the people
This is that tyranny you were always talking about
Reminds me of Alex Jones; or to be more precise, of the KnowledgeFight (play on InfoWars) podcast. All through 2025 they are commenting on Alex’ praise of Trumplon: “You should know that this is exactly what you pretended to be fighting against all those years.”
It really shows that the alt-right and related movements were never about freedom. It’s always been about the hate, mostly hate of others.
Alex Jones on the Patriot Act in 2003
The bill itself is stamped “Confidential - Not for Distribution.” Upon reading the analysis and bill, I was stunned by the scientifically crafted tyranny contained in the legislation. The Justice Department Office of Legislative Affairs admits that they had indeed covertly transmitted a copy of the legislation to Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, (R-Il) and the Vice President of the United States, Dick Cheney as well as the executive heads of federal law enforcement agencies.
[…]
SECTION 501 (Expatriation of Terrorists) expands the Bush administration’s “enemy combatant” definition to all American citizens who “may” have violated any provision of Section 802 of the first Patriot Act. (Section 802 is the new definition of domestic terrorism, and the definition is “any action that endangers human life that is a violation of any Federal or State law.”) Section 501 of the second Patriot Act directly connects to Section 125 of the same act. The Justice Department boldly claims that the incredibly broad Section 802 of the First USA Patriot Act isn’t broad enough and that a new, unlimited definition of terrorism is needed.
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SECTION 322 removes Congress from the extradition process and allows officers of the Homeland Security complex to extradite American citizens anywhere they wish. It also allows Homeland Security to secretly take individuals out of foreign countries.
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SECTION 402 is titled “Providing Material Support to Terrorism.” The section reads that there is no requirement to show that the individual even had the intent to aid terrorists.
Not gonna click anything from a jesus-is-savior domain but I think it’s blatantly obvious Alex Jones is a huckster that peddled supplements and lies.
Occasionally he might have accidentally made a salient point but he has never been and never will be a good source of information. It’s ironic his show’s name is also what he’s doing, fighting a war on information and truth with his bullshit and lies.
The point is this
“You should know that this is exactly what you pretended to be fighting against all those years.”
Alex Jones has always been a fucking nut, but the beliefs he holds now are antithetical to the beliefs he had then. There was a brief period where he was popular in more left leaning circles because criticism of the Patriot Act and the War in Iraq was not popular, and he was genuinely one of the first and loudest voices.
The concerning this is that he is cheering for things that he would have actively decried then. Before Trump was the nominee, he was not pro Trump. There is something strange with these MAGA cult figures - where their beliefs are subsumed into a devotion to their God figure.
Armed minorities are harder to oppress.
Organized armed minorities make governments afraid.
Get organized, train.
It’s that or lie down and take it.
I told Americans for weeks now to go meet minorities in their communities, offer to help them organize and arm. Then help them resist.
They’ll fight you about it.
I’ve been called every name you can imagine. Told they would all be killed in the streets (very possible I admit but not the point), I was reported a lot and given bans for inciting violence. Many of those posts have subsequently been deleted. I was attacked so much I shut my original account and use two new accounts so I don’t unintentionally dox myself.
Now it’s pretty common to see these comments.
This sounds good but tell that to the black panthers.
I wonder what’ll happen when they raid a house belonging to one of the trigger-happy gun collectors
They’ll lie down before their master.
A solid majority of the 2nd amendment crowd will immediately ask what they can do to lick the boot harder. Those motherfuckers love jackbooted authoritarianism as long as it’s aimed at the right minorities.
See the Breonna Taylor case or one of the many, many instances where dumbfuck no-knock raids got a cop put on GoFundMe. If the gun owner survives the encounter, they’re likely to be prosecuted for not magically knowing the home invaders were cops, or not believing “Police! Police!” (because everyone knows only cops can shout that). The cops will definitely shoot back, though, and there’s a high probability that the gun owner will not survive the initial encounter. Still, if enough cops get put on back window stickers, they’ll start exercising some discretion.
I always yell fbi when I’m robbing places that used to mean federal warrant. No idea what that shit means these days the fbi is a clown show. I’ll probably just switch to yelling robbery in the future.
If the cops or ICE knock down your door, they are looking for any excuse to kill you. I’m not worried about surviving, let alone prosecution. I’m opening fire on anyone who kicks in my door. And no, I don’t have to stumble fuck around to get a weapon in hand. Catch me on the shitter. GTG.
And now that I have a brown (legal) immigrant wife, the stakes are suddenly real.
One the same day Rittenhouse got off, a guy who defended himself against this exact thing was acquitted. But since the weapon he used wasn’t properly registered to him (a charge which the judge for Rittenhouse shrugged off and tossed on a whim) that guy got 30 years in spite.
They’ll find the loopholes to achieve the desired outcome.
Who dat?
Rittenhouse or Andrew Coffee IV?
https://reason.com/2021/11/22/man-faces-30-year-sentence-self-defense-andrew-coffee-iv-rittenhouse/
I realized it had been a while since I read about it so I did a little trip down memory lane and can correct a few points: he got 10 years, but had faced 30. Also the circumstances of the firearm possession were more different than I recalled: Coffee wasn’t allowed to have one and Rittenhouse just smuggled one.
In most of the US, there is no legal requirement of registering a weapon to a person. I think you’re confusing that with the Wisconsin law restricting the unsupervised use of dangerous weapons by those under 18.
They will turn on them. Just like how they turned on Meat Loaf when he died of COVID.
The homeowner will roll out with a gun and immediately be killed in a hail of bullets, despite acting entirely within their rights. No ICE agents will face any consequences, and the warrantless raids will continue. That’s what usually happens anyway. The 2nd amendment is a farce; law enforcement can legally kill you for exercising your right to bear arms if they want to.
Home owner doesn’t roll out anywhere, he starts blasting the door knowing it’s not gonna end well
Still, better than not doing anything. Make these fuckers afraid to go breaking into places in the night.
I’d prefer to die with my boots on, thank you very much. Hell, the pigs have trained us, by their actions, that if they knock down the door, they’re there to kill.
They’ll just start knocking the house over with bulldozers like Fallujah, or bomb them like they did in Philly.
The MOVE bombings are a good example of how deep the cowardice of racism is.
Hell the KKK largely formed in response to Americans getting military training in World War 1.
Drone strikes are a very real fear
Because capitalism has beaten every last will I have.
It won’t get better because we are, in fact, waiting to die.
Dear other countries: don’t let the bastards win. They already have here.
Edit: I’m depressed as fuck, please don’t let my doomsaying hurt you. Sorry.
Hell yea brother I’m waiting with you 💀
No I feel you. It’s a bad time to be American.
2A guy here. for the record assault weapons should be banned or regulated to fuckall, and all firearms should be registered to licensed Americans.
I’m not saying anything too loudly because it’s bad tactics to give away your position when in a conflict.
nobody knows who or what is behind your door. use that to your advantage.
that is all.
Says pro2a…then says ban and license everything so the gov has a registry…
Pressing X for doubt really hard on this one
eat shit if you believe that weapons shouldn’t be registered to licensed and trained individuals.
without a registry and path to licensing children will keep getting killed in schools, people will keep getting killed at public events.
A registery isn’t going to magically solve people shooting each other…and no I don’t believe there should be a registry…you know why? Because when fascist are charge like right now, do you think they’ll let minorities own or purchase weapons to protect themselves?
A registry and licensing is not and will never solve our gun violence issues, because we don’t have a gun problem, we have a societal problem.
it’s a mental health problem, not a societal problem. and the best way to ensure that violent smooth brain assholes don’t get guns is to register them and ensure they are trained and licensed.
stop acting like a troll. registry and licensing works in other countries just fine. perhaps we wouldn’t have as many of those “societal issues” if there was more gun regulation, specifically assault weapons.
there’s no “magic bullet” that’s going to solve everything, but doing nothing does nothing.
No it is not just a mental health problem. And the reason it works in other countries is because they A) dont have anywhere near the amount of firearms we do in civ hands and b) because they have safety nets for their citizens.
I’ve not said to not do anything. I’ve said we need to work on our society. Doing half this list would cut our violent crime in half in under a decade. Registration and licensing would not do a damn thing.
Single payer healthcare, so people can get mental health without going broke and avoiding it. Or turning to suicide, which is 2/3rds of our firearm deaths.
Reform prisoners, not lock them away for forever and rob them of ever being a productive member of society.
Get rid of for profit prisons, so we’re not turning an addict into someone who gets out of prison and can’t get a job because they carry a felony.
End qualified immunity so the 1/40 gun deaths aren’t from police who just kill people and get away with it.
Increase our school funding 10 fold. Build more schools, so class sizes can be 10-15 kids max per teacher. Not 30-40+
Solidify abortion rights into law, why the hell it’s been left to the courts for so long is insane. More unwanted children doesn’t create mentally stable people.
well, the interesting thing is that Karl Marx himself supported worker’s right to bear arms, funnily enough.
knowing this, i’ve completely changed my point of view on firearms. yes, they do a lot of harm and definitely should be dealt with cautiously. and also it’s completely beyond any meaningful stance that facebook allows pictures of firearms, but not naked breasts.
but apart from that, the issue of firearms is more interesting than it seems at first glance, and i guess a re-evaluation is warranted.
I mean, no one has tried to break into our houses yet.
You should become a 2A person, and get real loud about this. Let the Gestapo know that their choice of career is putting their lives at risk
Every time I get loud about it I get banned from Reddit or Facebook or Lemmy.world
You’ve had 2 comments removed for advocating violence, and a slap-on-the-wrist temp ban from an obnoxious automated bot in a troll community.
No meaningful bans.
On this account
And advocating violence is exactly what I’m talking about getting banned for
So wait, are you admitting that you are ban evading?
Oh I 100% am on reddit ;)
Every time I get loud about it I get banned from Reddit or Facebook or Lemmy.world
This implies you’ve been banned from all three.
Lemmy isn’t reddit and if you want it to be, you should leave
Ban evading is still against instance rules whether you like it or not. If you don’t, maybe it’s you that should leave.
Imagine believing fascists actually have principles.
They’re hanging out with the free speech people, watching university students get deported for speaking freely and laughing at it.
Well i’m not sure whether it’s the tyranny they were always talking about.
after all, the US is sometimes incredibly racist, and these voices are influential rn. so it’s not surprising that there isn’t really a lot of loud voices invoking the 2nd amendment rn. especially not from the trump supporters.
People who have been trying to disarm the working class suddenly mad when gun owners don’t get mad about the government trying to remove people here illegally who pull down wages and drive up the cost of housing for the working class.
Oh, well. That justifies all the illegal crap this government is doing, then. Enjoy your fascist sate then, shmuck !
I’m all for challenging things the government does that are illegal. The legalities of big issues are generally not settled until at minimum a district court, but usually the supreme court. The government is always doing illegal shit and I support the first for speech and protest and redress of grievences and the rest of it. And the second for reasons too many people here don’t yet appreciate enough. And the fourth because asking for my papers for no reason is Nazi shit and they should be told to fuck off. And all the rest of them too, but a lot on the left say the Constitution is obsolete and should be ignored.
Yeah we should be challenged governmental overreach but we should be doing that when Dems are in power too. I’m not on the right or the left. I’m anti authoritarian and I agree they’re overstepping, but nobody complains when they’re overstepping to do the things they want done.
I haven’t seen a single soul on the left argue for ignoring the constitution, and if you have I’d love to see where you got that from. At most you’d see leftist arguing that the militias of 2A should be well regulated like the constitution literally says.
Also, people on the left complain about stuff Democrat presidents do all the time. It’s how Democrats keep losing elections. What kind of constitutional overreach are you referring to which didn’t get complaints from the left? I’d genuinely love to know, because I clearly missed it.
You learn all this in maga 101?
wooo, you have a lot of history to relearn
Sounds like reeducation camp time
Here you go
I thought tyranny was when the government tells you to not throw trash in the river or pays for kids public elementary?
/s
Tyranny is when the government doesn’t recognize my right as the divine head of my family and king of my castle - not allowing me to expose others to infectious disease, forcing me to ensure that my children learn how to read and count, stopping me from buying a gun after beating my wife, and denying me the ability to purchase something that has been marketed specifically to my Oppositional Defiance Disorder (ivermectin, raw milk, probably fucking asbestos eventually); while having the gall to allow black people to vote and gay people to get married.
