Next will be memory. They will say everything you meed should be stored online for a subscription fee.
Microsoft is already trying hard. My poor mom did not notice all her files are on OneDrive. Now she has two laptops with everything remote on OneDrive. It’s has some advantages, but it’s annoying in so many more ways.
There’s a setting in Onedrive to keep a copy of everything on the device. It will still get stored in the cloud too, but it means that everything will be available if the internet goes down.
I fell victim to that :(
A few years ago my ex got a new laptop and it had onedrive enabled system-wide by default. She didn’t realize until after she had been using it for months, I had to spend several hours backing up her files and defenestrating onedrive. It not as simple as just turning it off because it was even on critical system folders, you have to go in the registry and remap the those folders manually one at time before you can disable it.
It is possible, but it fucking sucks.
Drake in the first picture: marketing.
Drake in the second picture: surprise, we signed you up without asking. You’re welcome.
It’s not annoying at all. It’s peace of mind. People are just not used to it
Nah, fuck off. The cloud is a place you don’t have any control over. I remember getting angry when Windows 10 LTSC got an update that added an online backup system. I do not pay them to take a copy of my important work and documents, they should pay me for that privileges. Furthermore, it’s an absolute disgrace to see that on an LTSC copy to begin with, it’s meant to be the barebones OS that you purchase at a premium for minimal updates and changes as well as extended service lifespan.
Fuck OneDrive, I store locally and I make local backups. What I own is mine without exception.
additionally I exclusively use local windows accounts. Passwords are to keep your nosy parents, partners, or kids away from your machine, if a hacker has physical access to your computer it’s jover, no amount of microsoft accounts will save you
I was recently refurbishing a laptop for a friend and I got frustrated that I had to make sure it doesn’t connect to internet during the OS setup or I’d have to start the install over again. Online accounts only stop forgetful owners from getting in, does nothing helpful.
I didn’t criticize anyone, I didn’t disrespect anyone, so it’s surprising getting this many downvotes and answers.
Still, it’s your opinion, and I will still share mine.
Local backups have their flaws, just like cloud backups.
I have 1TB storage using my school account. I am constantly changing between devices, and I like having my files always accessible.
Everything important, I keep in two local backups (external HDD and SSD).
The only thing I dislike about onedrive, is the sync of desktop, documents and images folder. I have turned that off, but my docs folder still appears to be syncing with onedrive.
Besides that, it’s the best thing for me. And like I said… “Peace of mind”. Just because you don’t like that, it does not mean it is a bad solution.
No, its kidnapping your data to keep you trapped as their customer. If you want peace of mind, you can make your own backups.
This is Apple already.
Oh. You can only afford 4GB iPhone? Not to worry, for only $10 a month we can store stuff for you.
Also we got rid of photo stream and if you delete the file from the cloud then we remove it from every device
Google keeps trying to back up my non existent photos. It’s annoying.
Google photos made it difficult to download or delete your pictures on purpose. You have to manually select them. There is still a way to get them and it was because of GDPR, when you ask google for the whole data of your account they include the pictures and video from google photos.
You don’t need to request all account data, you can request only the Google photos data
They’ll take away volume control (SW/HW buttons) and replace with dynamically adjusting “magic volume” so that you can’t mute ads.
Oh Christ. You’ve just triggered a premonition in me–the Galaxy S32 Ultra will be the first smartphone with no physical buttons or ports. You can turn it “off,” but that will only turn on a sort of extreme power saving mode. It will still ping your location once every few minutes, and will keep the fingerprint scanner active. You will “turn on” the device by holding your finger on the fingerprint scanner for four seconds. They will advertise the “quick startup” as a new feature. Volume will be controlled by sliding your finger along the right edge of the phone, which the screen will wrap around all the way to the back. It will be impossible to hold the phone without touching some part of the screen.
It will only allow wireless charging. You will not be able to connect it directly to a computer. In marketing, this will be to meet rigorous water safety standards. In reality, this will be to prevent you from using ADB to remove apps that come with the phone. You cannot turn off mobile data. You cannot turn off location. You cannot use a third party SMS application. You cannot choose your own wallpaper. You cannot set a private DNS. You cannot install applications that haven’t been approved by Samsung. You cannot block ads. This is all covered on page 74 of subsection 32(a) of section G8 of the terms and conditions that you agreed to when you set up the phone.
They will meet the physical limitations of how well a small lens can focus light. Zoom will cap out at 150x. Nevertheless, there will be seven cameras.
You will not be able to connect it directly to a computer. In marketing, this will be to meet rigorous water safety standards.
Making devices water-proof is also a marketing scheme to avoid replaceable batteries :
Some manufacturers are already eyeing an exemption for batteries used in “wet conditions” to opt out electric toothbrushes and possibly wearables like earbuds and smartwatches. The exemption is “based on unfounded safety claims,” states Thomas Opsomer, policy engineer for iFixit, in Repair.EU’s post.
Despite the coming up regulation on batteries and waste batteries by the EU Council batteries in water-proof devices will probably be exempt from being replceable, because the water proof feature of the device cannot be guaranteed. This undermines the right to repair and manufacturers can hope that customers replace their entire devices soon. Making phones water-proof is a loophole to seal off the device so that it is not to be repaired, at least without keeping the water-proof features after repairing.
Yeah pretty sure the Fairphone 5 and its predecessors have a pretty good IP rating, despite their ability to have the battery removed.
The Galaxy S5 did it first :)
(for a competent smartphone that is)
I dropped my phone in the bath once, so it’s worth it 🤣
I dropped several flip phones in water ranging from bath, to sink, to ponds and creeks in the mid 00’s to mid teens before getting a smart phone. Out of probably 10 phones used only one was ever ruined by the water, the rest all dried out fine when taken apart and left to dry for a day or two.
nahhh you’ll be able to choose your own wallpaper, the average user will eat up all of those “feautres” but god forbid Keighleeeigh can’t put her little baby Xaileeyn as her screen saver
Obligatory, “The rise of -leigh, -lee, and -den names”:
But Keighleeeigh will happily pay for it.
Or her baby daddy, Jaxxon
correction a bit, you can use adb via wifi. That’s what I do to sideload an app to my Android TV
Why are people up voting this? This is such ridiculous FUD that I can’t take it seriously.
I know, right? I mean, does he seriously expect virtually every smartphone manufacturer to put holes in his screen and take away his headphone jacks, removable sim cards, SD cards, replaceable batteries, and IR blasters, and switch to an aspect ratio other than 16:9? That would be ridiculous. They never make user-unfriendly changes!
They’re not user unfriendly changes if 95% of users just don’t care.
And which of the changes he listed would the 95% figure you mentioned care about? By your definition, short of literally turning each feature into a micro transaction, there’s no such thing as user unfriendly changes - and knowing the general public, not even then.
That’s when I go flip
This is when I go back to having a “dumb” phone 🫡
Oh jesus christ I think you’re right
These people need stabbed.
Don’t forget the RGB notification led!
I switched to Chinese brand phones, they still have all this and they’re dirt cheap, currently rocking an Ulephone power armor 18t, which also has a flir infrared camera and a microscope for some reason. No I’m not joking, they work surprisingly well and have come in handy more than I thought they would!
Not sure I’d consider £600 “dirt cheap” but the thermal camera is definitely cool.
They have frequent sales, i got it for under 300
That was the first thing I missed when I went to a Galaxy S22. But aodNotify works great as replacement (you can make your own notification light this way and customize it, not a lot of battery drain either due to the OLED screen). But yeah, removing the notification light sucked.
All except the IR blaster, right?
And optional microscope connects to the phone, looks like.
Yeah, missing the IR blaster unfortunately! It does have an accessory port for microscope/endoscope, I just got an endoscope but haven’t tried it yet.
Post pics of colon
Why do you need a custom accessory port? They have had USB endoscopes for years.
What do you use the IR blaster for? Controlling TVs?
controlling anything that uses a remote to be controlled TV, Projectors, ACs, etc…
I suppose there were universal remote apps?
Don’t forget the RGB notification led!
The Nexus One had this, the trackball had an RGB LED inside it. With custom ROMs it could be customised to flash different colours and patterns for just about anything.
How did you buy this? It pretty much had everything I want! Big battery, good screen, SD card, waterproof. Any bugs on it day to day? It does seem to have some shitty Chinese android skin.
Aliexpress, or Amazon if you want to pay a bit more but get it faster. I’ve had it a few months, no bugs i’ve noticed, it runs essentially stock Android.
The notification LED became a bit obsolete with AOD. I don’t need a bright flashing light, the notification being visible when the screen is off is enough.
I never had one of those, that I can recall.
This goddamn camera built into my screen instead of above the screen pisses me off so fucking much. So often I have to move a picture down to read the top of it.
IT’S BLOCKING MY MEMES GOD FUCKING DAMMIT MY MEMES
Hey man, I know this is a rant, but in case you didn’t know there should be a setting to resize things to make a black bar at the top. Google it for your phone, but for samsung it’s something like “full sceeen apps”.
Just looked. Not a thing for pixel 6A :(
Googled it, try this
https://mashtips.com/hide-display-notch-and-cutouts-on-pixel/
Holy crap that did it! Thank you!!
That seems like a weird thing to want. You’ll have less screen space because the notification area is now using your useable screen area instead of being up in the unusable dead space.
MY. MEMES.
People look at me like I’m fucking insane when I get as upset about the blighted notch on my screen as I do. This screen technically has more real estate than my Razer Phone 2 back in 2018 did, but between the obnoxiously tall aspect ratio and the fucking notch, it has like 75% of the usable screen space. You know what was really nice? Watching TV shows on my RP2, with the 6" screen, all of which was used for the video. You know what sucks? Having a half inch of black bars on either side of the screen so that the 16:9 aspect ratio video can fit on the 18:9 aspect ratio screen. And it’s even more ass than that, because the top and bottom of the video look like shit because the screen wraps around the fucking sides.
If the FBI could hear what I have to say about the engineers at samsung, I would have been arrested years ago
I drift through this world in a mood of indifference, frequently moving into disgust.
But at times I read a comment like this and see that there is still beauty in the world. I love you.
I’m sorry but I think we should just be friends
- the home button now being a part of my screen instead of… a button.
You don’t need a navbar if you switch to gesture controls
Fuck gestures, gice me back my buttons
If you’re talking about physical buttons, please no. Gesture navigation is an incredibly useful feature for those with short fingers like myself, who have problems with reaching the “Recents” button without weirdly tilting the phone and then stretching their thumb to the point that it gets painful over time. And while it’s technically possible to use gesture navigation on phones with physical buttons, it would definitely be weird. Not to mention that it’s also wasted space, because physical buttons obviously can’t just disappear when needed like on-screen buttons do, so you can have a bigger and more efficiently used screen. There are a lot of things that are dumb to remove from phones, pyhsical navigation buttons, in my opinion at least, are not one of them. I can’t even think of an advantage physical buttons would have over on-screen buttons.
If you meant that you want to keep the option for on-screen button navigation, I’m all for it. Can’t hurt to have more options :)
Well i meant physical buttons but i also think phone displays should be 5 inches, 5.5 at absolute most. Also, by the by, the main advantage of physical buttons is a) useabilty while gloved or with wet/dirty hands and b) being able to know precisely what button you’re on by touch
I don’t think this is a common use case for most people, but I can see how that might come in handy for some, so you’ve got some good points.
Thx. It’s more about versatility in my eyes. A smartphone should be, above all else, practical. So a perfect phone for me would be something like Fairphone but with a 3,5mm jack, physical front buttons, and 2 cameras on the back (wide and normal/narrow lens). Mby additional sensors like a barometer, assuming that can be scaled down or done digitally/electronically.
That’s another thing they ruined! Oneplus had amazing gestures, but then Google enforced using their gestures only, and they’re so much worse! I especially hate that back is swiping in from an edge, which is in conflict with every side drawer and cropping tool in every app ever!
Yeah, I have the most problems with it in Thunder. I avoided using gestures for so long but they’ve grown on me.
With Oneplus gestures back was swiping up from the bottom left or right. So much better. And the screen-off-gestures with drawing the pause symbol for play/pause or < or > for jump back/forward in a podcast or song. I miss them.
How often do you come across tall pictures? Most pictures sit well below the camera for me
At least a couple times a day
They removed my slide out keyboard, too.
I just want my physical keyboard back, damnit!
They now sell it as an addon in a phone case
Ew
That looks so wrong to me.
They should include a slide out controller now instead
how to reinvent the ninetendo DS in five easy steps.
More like Gameboy SP but yeah
RIP Sony Xperia play
That but with a joy stick
Fxtec still builds phones with slideout keyboards. And Unihertz embraces the old Blackberry form factor.
I still have an S9 with a notification LED.
From my cold, dead hands.
still using the 3.5mm on my S8 every damn day
Same. I’ve used the 3.5mm port for my truck daily for the past 10 years. Don’t need it as much now that I got a new truck, but I still use it when I ride my motorcycle. Bluetooth earbuds just don’t fit under my helmet.
Bluetooth intercom with helmet speakers are a game changer!
Can also keep earplugs in, which is good to avoid worse tinnitus than what I already have…
Aye, super happy with my Cardo and plug combo!
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It’s not better, it’s more convenient. Bluetooth earbuds are basically not repairable and they’re more expensive than their wired counterparts if you want something decent. The call quality is also worse due to bluetooth’s limitations.
Both types of headphones have their pros and cons and both can coexist. Don’t be dumb, don’t defend companies taking away options for no good reason other than planned obsolesence.
The phones with a headphone jack also had Bluetooth support though.
This isn’t an either/or
I miss this so much. It is extra annoying cause my phone has a similar LED it uses for other things.
Maybe https://github.com/Chainfire/HoleyLight will be up your alley.
Wouldn’t those be warm hands? Pretty sure the S9 was the one that caught fire all the time? Or was that the S7?
I love it when uninformed troglodytes complain about a hole in the screen. They didn’t add a hold in the screen. The hole was already there. They just wrapped your screen around it for more screen. 😅
Do many people know that there is actually a patent for the idea of an advertisement that plays to a certain point… and then does not end, will not let you skip it, until you as the user, via a camera and microphone, can be verified to have assumed a pose, made a facial expression, and/or said a specific phrase?
The actual patent shows a smart tv ‘owner’ standing up and saying McDonalds! in order to like keep watching Netflix.
We quite literally have the tech and the legal framework for ‘Drink Verification Mountain Dew Can’ to actually be a thing.
The illustration of that patent practically a meme, many on Lemmy should know it.
Though it should be kept in mind there’s thousands of patents that were never actually applied, and this one was filled back in 2009.
We quite literally have the tech and the legal framework
Do patents necessarily have to follow the law?
Though it should be kept in mind there’s thousands of patents that were never actually applied, and this one was filled back in 2009.
This is genuinely a good thing, then. If you patent something and “accidentally” never use it, it prevents other companies from using it legally. Screw over advertisers and save the consumers from their terrible ideas by hoarding patents and working with a patent troll firm :)
Not really. Patests expire and then they can just read the specs in your idea. No reverse-engineering effort required.
It takes 20 years for patents to expire, and you can’t commercially use the patented invention until then. If I “invent” and patent 50 different methods to track viewer attention during video advertisements, that’s 50 fewer ways that some company would be able to achieve it.
It would be impossible to cover every possible method to achieve the same thing, but the risk of violating a patent held by a highly litigious patent troll might be a good enough deterrent to stop the whole idea from making it to market for a couple decades.
Yes, but after 20 years you’re not at square one, others have free reign to use and abuse your expired patent. Sure, you can tacticize patents in a way where you make a starting patent, then before it’s about to expire “expand” it with a new one in a way which invalidates use of the previous, but I don’t know if that “loophole” is patched and if not, how it looks in real life.
That is an entirely valid concern, and I see where you’re coming from with that. It would be short-sighted to introduce something revolutionary, only to open the floodgates for everyone else to start implementing it two decades later.
I was thinking of using patents more along the lines of “throw shit at the wall and see what sticks.” Rather than trying to come up with every conceivable method for tracking user attention and patenting those, the hypothetical patent troll would create and patent hundreds of different smaller, novel processes that may or may not be needed as part of a larger system for tracking user attention. The overall goal being to make it likely enough for one or more of those patents to be violated that a company would consider it too risky to go anywhere near the idea of commercializing attention tracking software/hardware.
Eh? Do patents necessarily have to follow the law?
…no? They are ideas.
They are also a legal construct to organize business uses and control of ideas around.
Hence a patent and the patent system are a legal framework.
Legal frameworks are often involved in things that later end up being determined to be illegal.
Large businesses usually like to set up some kind of comprehensive legal framework before they roll out a new product or feature.
Not saying they will. I am saying setting up a legal framework is usually groundwork before you do though.
Smartphone manufacturers, if you’re reading this:
I spent 6 hours on google to find a phone with a screen smaller than 6 inch. I did find none (except an old iPhone, but I want android), so I had to buy one 6 inch. It is too unwieldy. I am annoyed.
There is a serious market for people like me. Do not look away. Somebody will buy these phones.
Also, by the way, it’s not bad if the phones are a bit thicker.
The day I can’t find a phone that has an headphone jack is the day I go feral and become a hermit in the woods.
It’s the SD card for me. We are getting phones with 1tb now, so that will work. But with the phones that do offer it, you have to get the most expensive version for it. Meanwhile if they just give me an SD card slot, I can have that fixed myself. Just take the one out of my current phone and plop it in the new phone.
And 113GB used by system
If you want the rest of the specs to be decent, then that day is fast approaching or already here.
I had to jump from a phone that had about 5.5 of the features on that list to one with none of them (although I do like the 3 rear cameras) and I hate that I had to do that.
But I kept “Easily rootable” and that’s what really matters to me.
I hate the loss but just buy a bunch of USBC to headphone adapters, stick them on all your headphones/aux cables, and forget you don’t have a headphone jack on your phone.
Adapters are not a solution.
I don’t like it either but they are a solution.
You know what else they’ve taken from us? Actually unique designs for phones. When I look at modern day smartphones, for some reason they look like clones of each other. Where’s all the spunk that these manufacturers used to put in their devices?
Fuck you, minimalism. Ever since you’ve ruined my iPhone back in 2013, my life has never been the same.
This dude doesnt prison phones and it shows
There’s literally still dozens of phones and manufacturers that have unique everything. It’s just not your typical 1k dollar phone. Gotta look for smaller brands.
My IQ has officially gone down today. I shall now be punished by swimming in an ocean of downvotes.
I think the fun stuff is all Chinese which doesn’t get marketed in the US. Someone in this thread linked the Unihertz Tank which seems crazy fun.
taken from us? Actually unique designs for phones
It’s like they want to make everything the same but won’t commit to having identical form-factor so my battery case will fit the new phone.
Ironically Apple’s been the best in preserving another company’s hardware compatibility, which is two things they’d usually neither support (missing out on a hardware deal) or recognize (another company).
That is really ironic.
Ironically Apple’s been the best in preserving another company’s hardware compatibility,
What do you mean?
I miss the wild and crazy days of Nokia. My brother had the ngage, I even got this one feature phone where the dial pad flipped up and over the phone screen revealing a split qwerty fingerboard on either side of the screen (which then rotated to support typing in that form factor).
So many weird designs, some were complete flops, but others were really cool and should have caught on, but didn’t for some reason or another.
Those were the good ol days.
You can be minimalist and still innovative. I love my Nothingphone and the awesome Glyph interface on the back, wish more manufacturers would do something like that.
Unihertz has a similar device with the Luna, but the software isn’t great.
The Nothing company actually brought back the transparent design that was so trendy back in the 90s. I like that.
I dunno man, my phone folds in half. That’s pretty unique
spunk in my phone gizzards
I like the design of the PearPhone. That surely has a lot of spunk.
How extra do you need your phone to be?
Idk, maybe take some cues from Nokia during the Windows Phone days, or Samsung during the days of the “edge” phones. Or even the curved metal back that HTC phones had. Even iPhones had cool designs, especially the iPhone 4 (the one I had by the time iOS 7 came out).
Give me a picture of a recent release of a smartphone without telling me who made it, and chances are if it’s not an iPhone, I wouldn’t be able to guess who made it.
I just want a physical keyboard again
Google Clicks case
I really miss the slide ones that you had to turn your phone. But this case is dope I never heard of it. Thanks
Same
It’s not “minimalism” it’s a direct response to what the market demands. Sorry, but no one gives a shit what you individually want from a phone that costs billions to develop and manufacture.
Sucks to be me.
Physical keyboard? Notification LED?
I miss the LED for sure. How much money could that have possibly saved?
For the physical part? A couple cents per phone sold.
But it’s also one less part for for the circuit board designers to accomodate in their ever-shrinking layouts, one less part to inventory, track, and warehouse, one less behavior to verify by Q&A, one less SW and/or HDL code module to maintain, etc etc etc. When you look at the entire design, verification, and manufacturing process, multiplied by millions of units, every part and behavior carries a cost.
There are plenty of valid reasons to crap on the major phone manufacturers, especially when they take away features and capabilities we like. But “it’s just one small part” usually isn’t one of them.
The notification LED is the only feature I truly miss
OLED displays have obsoleted notification LEDs. And phones with physical keyboards don’t sell.
OLED displays certainly could, but there is no baked it app that wakes up the screen only if you have a message, blink in different colors or frequencies depending on the message and use the low power always on display api.
Yeah, you can glance at your always on display and make out the little symbol. But that’s not an adequate replacement to the notification LED. If I had to guess, it was removed to drive up engagement with your phone.
No they don’t.
Also, keyboard phones don’t sell because they don’t make good ones.
I wouldn’t call the “always on display” some kind of innovative technology that makes notification LEDs obsolete… AOD is a battery draining complement to notification LEDs, not a replacement – we just don’t have the latter anymore because of corporate greed and consumer mentalities :/
There are notification apps to replicate the feature. A single pixel lighting on an OLED screen uses no more energy than a physically separate led. The CPU isn’t sleeping to update the notification led either way.
Appreciate the response. Figured this was “easily” do-able, but I honestly remember not being able to find anything pre-implemented for this a couple years ago when I last checked. Maybe my search, then, idk… Anyways, yeah, physically separate LED do sound a lot more obsolete with that in mind
Controversial: it was much easier and safer to text while driving with a physical keyboard. You could type with one hand, hold the steering wheel with the other, all while still looking at the road because you could feel where the buttons were.
I’d still prefer you didn’t do that
Ditto lol
Back in the flip phone days that raised 5 let me text behind my back in class. I mean, I have no need for that now but it was pretty fucking sweet back then.
My car has T9 input which is much better than a full touchscreen keyboard, especially since I have a ton of practice from the old Nokia days
Controversial: Drinking while driving was easier and safer with a beer helmet since you can just sip directly from the straw instead of looking down to pick up the can.
Give me back my goddamed physical keyboard
I still remember the extended conversation I had with the cell phone man on the day I realized that time had moved on, and it wasn’t even possible for me to buy a third-party phone that still had a keyboard and then hook it up to their network anymore. I was just going to have to poke haplessly at the glass and get letters wrong for the rest of my life.
IT’S MY MONEY, LET ME BUY THE KIND OF PHONE I WANT
This is why I like the audible haptic feedback on a cell phone keyboard that everyone else seems to hate. I gotta know that I pushed the button, otherwise in my mind, I didn’t push it. At least when I have a physical keyboard I could feel it.
The fact that we literally cannot vote with our money screams monopoly.
For me it’s the small size. They are so big now I can’t fit them in my pocket or use them with one hand.
I miss the FM radio
I appreciate the feature but despise broadcast radio. It’s definitely silly to have people carry around a gizmo for two-way audio communication, on a surprising variety of wireless frequencies and protocols, and tell them to carry a separate gizmo for a century-old music streaming service that’s in every single modern car.
The century old music streaming service is so fast you can literally set your watch to it. While the same stream digitally has a thirty second delay 🥲
Don’t mentionthe century-old and universal parts, especially with “service” added. DO NOT give them any ideas.
My current Motorola still has one.
We don’t even have FM here anymore. They’d need to implement DAB+ for my region
Seriously? That’s horrible!
