The Russian President has ordered to halt military operations during the upcoming 80th anniversary of the USSR’s defeat of Nazi Germany
That will mean a whole lot seeing what putin thinks ceasefire means
Please, point to some ceasefire violations.
Please point to a source that isn’t RT propaganda. Look it up yourself. I know you choose your facts, even if untrue.
It’s very funny you say that because whenever I peek into the lib instances, you guys are always sharing the latest stories from Pravda UA and Kyiv Post with breathless credulity. I guess when you get all your information straight from one side’s press corps, it’s easy to assume everyone else does the same.
Your response to someone asking for a source to your claim is to ask them for a source to your claim?
Propaganda is when a news source I don’t like says things I don’t like. Hard hitting journalism is when a news source I do like says things I do like. I am an independent free thinker.
I’m just asking you to provide an example of what Putin thinks of ceasefires
Okay, a very quick search from a few sources slightly more reputable than Russian state media.
Or how about that putin is the aggressor as well and attacked under a pretext of training and then a ‘special operation’?
The sources of these pieces are literally the Ukrainian government itself. The journalists reporting based on these sources work for some of the richest people on the planet. If you think RT isn’t reputable for being Russian state media, you cannot seriously assert that The Ukranian government and the private mouthpieces of billionaires are even slightly more reputable. Ukraine especially has been known widely for making shit up, even NATOids admit this.
Or how about that putin is the aggressor as well and attacked under a pretext of training and then a ‘special operation’?
this is a really misinformed and reductive understanding of the situation. this is a conflict that has been happening since 2014, and arguably much longer if you consider that Ukraine is being used as a proxy by NATO which was literally founded to be an aggressor against the Russians and their allies before most of us were born.
oh are we playing “libs do quick google searches and link the first results where the headline looks like it might vibe with some claim in the vicinity of theirs and the informed have to actually read what they are throwing out there in order to respond to it” again? It’s a gish gallop every time.
Well, it is the dumb ask for easy to find resources
Okay, well give me something not from Russia that opposes it
Again, why do other people need to provide sources for your spurious claims? You are asserting something and cannot find any evidence to support it, if you had a spine you would then admit you don’t know what you are talking about and at the very least be open to other possibilities.
I thought Putin was responding to Ukraine persistently breaking the three Minsk agreements (a ceasefire of sorts), with their ethnic cleansing of ethnic Russians in Donbas.
But what do I know.
Not a lot I guess
Yes, because reddthat libs clearly understand more than what CNN/NBC/ABC/XYZ western propaganda press says. You people were unable to point Ukraine on a map four days before Feb 24, and yet you pretend you’re fucking experts on the region and its history, with your stupid smirks and remarks. You ignored the time the US empire (the actual aggressor) conducted two color revolutions in Ukraine, including one that ended in a violent coup in 2014. You ignored the broken promises and Minsk agreements, you ignored 8 years of the AFU shelling the living shit out of people in the Donbass. You ignored the US nazifying Ukraine and pumping it full of NATO weapons, you ignored the US unilaterally torpedoing the INF treaty, you ignored the nuclear-capable Aurus missile systems in Romania and Poland painfully close to Russia’s borders.
That’s the thing, though - they wanted to start a proxy war, and for that they needed to present Russia as the aggressor while erasing every single thing they did to provoke Russia into some sort of response. Otherwise there is no justification for “helping” Ukraine. Otherwise the narrative falls apart at its seams.
As a former history student I love that RT word it as “USSR’s victory” and theirs only. I can almost hear someone’s children dissecting this in a few decades, ideally with a very pro-US source to contrast, and seeing if that sentiment shifted from 1945 to now. :)
(Before anyone puts words in my mouth, I studied history, and am well aware that we’d all be toast without Russia, and they suffered massively. I just find reading like this interesting.)
The historian in me knows a coalition of nations and peoples all contributed in various ways to the defeat of Nazi Germany.
The baiter in me just loves to say that Stalin killed Hitler and ended the Holocaust, while the Brits and Yanks kinda helped.
This is absolutely the way! :)
while the Brits and Yanks kinda helped.
You forgot to mention the reason they did this was largely to intervene against the communists
It is true though that the soviets were the most badass by far. Battle of stalingrad turned the tide of the war, etc.
