People in Tesla’s always look either totally clueless, or like D Bags… They also drive the same ways as they look…
I will get a Model S the moment I’m no longer underwater
I’ve seen Teslas using Mazda parts for camouflage, are they conspiring with eachother???
My car sat at a dealer for 4 months. All kinds of excuses about what was going on. Finally I had it moved to a different dealer. I left a review at www.dealerratings.com and then 20 mins later I get the service manager “calling with an update on my car”??? Wow! That was fast. I never even heard of that web site. It was the ONLY unsolicited time the Dealer ever called me with any kind of update. Beware dealer has been prompt and come to find out the old dealer would ha e NEVER fixed my car. There were literally a hundred 1 star SERVICE reviews at 2.1 stars. Their SALES stars are 4.5. So next time e I buy a $38,000 car I will be sure to look at both. Glad I didnt buy a service contract. The problem? They have an ongoing beef with Geico. My current dealer wanted parts $$ up front. That is what got the ball rolling. What a freakin disaster.
Hyundai? I’ve seen plenty of Ioniq’s
Driving a Tesla is like wearing a swastika
Without sounding like an emotionally challenged 25 year old EV fan boy, I’ll tell ya EVs are a failure for majority of people at least in the US. Insurance, part availability, weight, cold weather range, charging times, price, cost to replace batteries, fire risk, charging availability and wait in line times. EV is just an expensive paper weight.
Other manufacturers: Why aren’t people buying our $80k ($120k w/ dealership markup) 150 mile range EV SUV?
I wonder why
Maybe because they’re the most affordable without comprises to the battery tech and have a robust charging station? A Model 3 with tax incentives easily hits low 30k, while I’m not crazy about Tesla built quality that’s really compelling.
Every other legacy manufacturers are making compromised cars at that price point and you have to go up to their 60k+ blobs to get somewhere.
Personally I think we’re all being pretty disingenuous re: “tax incentives” when we’re talking about affording vehicles.
The $7,500 is a non-refundable tax credit that you don’t get until you file your taxes up to a year after you buy that car. You’re not actually bringing the price down to the low-30s/mid-20s using it, it’s basically tantamount to girl-math.
Tesla’s are just as expensive as any other comparable EV on the market with the only difference being you can buy one online in an instant.
It’s truly not the same thing as “girl math”, the incentives really makes a factor in a product being more affordable. Even if you have to wait a year why is that necessarily a bad thing? You still reap the benefits, it’s not like it’s a tax deductible where you would have to do special conditions to make it worth it.
Even factoring without tax incentives a Model 3 being high 30k is far better than any comparable at that price point.
Genuinely what EV can you get at that price that isn’t vaporware or something that’s low production?
With tax incentives a model 3 is mid 20k in some states!
how is this possible? max amount of taxes are not $7500? Could you tell me what other incentives are there? Deciding to buy a tesla
Colorado also gives $5k based on your state tax liability. NJ’s $4k credit is based off the car’s range, there’s all sorts of different incentives.
In some states (quite a few) they offer an additional rebate. Some exempt sales tax (I think New Jersey?) either way just google “EV incentives ” and you’ll see. I think Colorado is most generous at 5k + 7.5k federal.
I’m a truck guy, and I love the F-150 Lightning.
I ain’t dropping $75-$100K on a truck, though. I can get a pretty decently-optioned, newer full-sized ICE truck for $40-50K. Being an EV definitely isn’t worth paying double (and for less convenience since the charging network around me is nearly non-existent).
The ford dealership near me, at this moment, has 12 Lightning’s on the lot, 7 of which are XLTs at $55,000. Not to discount that the ones near you are super expensive, but keep an eye out. There are dealerships doing what they’re supposed to.
I see a lot of other EVs these days. Mustang Mach-E, Kona, Ariya, Lightning.
I saw 3 Polestars, in addition to mine, waiting to charge this last weekend. I test drove a lot of cars and found the Polestar was the sweet spot. Competes well with Tesla and anyone I drive around has nothing but good things to say, even when I try to ask what they don’t like in comparison.
Because Tesla is the only viable “only car” EV option. Go with any other EV brand and you’re fucked for charging if you wanna go anywhere but local.
“But I have so-and-so EV and never have problems charging during road trips!!”
Yeah bullshit. My gf and I take her M3LR on thousand-mile road trips every month (50k miles/year of just road trips), and I know from experience that non-Tesla chargers are both difficult to find and are often out of service. I’ve seen dudes in Mach-E’s sitting at the same charger for days in Bumfuck, Montana waiting for someone to come repair it.
I recently rented a Polestar 2 and, while it was crazy fun especially in the twisties, the local Chargepoint L3 charging station had 2 of 3 chargers out of order. I was all-in on replacing the Tesla until that point.
Tesla has 3 things going for it that are awesome
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they’re affordable now. Especially with the tax credit.
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their charging network is top tier. My uncle takes his car up and down the east coast all the time and has no issues.
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No dealers! My aunt wanted to surprise him at his retirement party and she ordered one online in about in about 20 minutes. Had the full price with no BS markups too.
Affordable for who? 40k is out of reach for most Americans
47k is the average new car price.
And based on delinquency rates its not affordable
Delinquency rates on EVs are basically the lowest in the industry https://www.experian.com/content/dam/noindex/na/us/automotive/finance-trends/2023/2023-q2-state-auto-finance-market.pdf (page 44)
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