This recall is serious but hardly means that Honda or any manufacturer that issues a recall is a bad brand. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2023/11/17/honda-recall-acura-pilot-ridgeline-odyssey/71617360007/
Listened to a radio segment about the first recall ever done by Ford for the Pinto back in the day. It was really interesting. It was on NPR, can’t remember, it may have been Hidden Brain. Followed them process of the guy who issued it and his fight inside of Ford to get it issued. Worth a listen
I mean, it depends on who issued it and what the recall is addressing. Context is important. A recall for software isn’t necessarily concerning, but one for a design flaw in an essential component definitely is
In my time as a factory trained Porsche Tech (1993 to 2003) we had lots of recalls on Porsche cars. Audi had them too.
The brand name really doesn’t have anything to do with recalls. All makes and models can have issues, some issues occur after some years of production. In some instances like the Takata airbag recall, it becomes a mutli product lines issue. In that case its a vendor issue.
While this is true, some parts are so simple and have been designed/updated with so much experience and feedback, the defect can only be because of Quality control or Bad design.
Like if shopping around get them the material that is so cheap it is not the same, if the parts weren’t treated or finished like designed, if the tolerances are the issue or some other problems you would think should not be an after decades of engineering in engines.
I would appreciate more infos on if manufacturers have something like design rules that would say any rod bearing for cranks of X diameter,x oil grade made to spin to x RPM and up to X operating temperature needs to have X fitment and X metal treatment to avoid this issue.
In all, 248,999 vehicles are affected by the recall, the company announced.
The following models are being recalled:
2015-2020 Acura TLX
2016-2020 Acura MDX
2016 and 2018-2019 Honda Pilot
2017 and 2019 Honda Ridgeline
2018-2019 Honda Odyssey
these are y6 motors the 13==17 accord was y1 /2
Depend on if it was a forced recall or not. If the manufacturer does a voluntary recall I’d take that as standing by their product.
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What does quality even mean, Phaedrus?
Unexpected Pirsig is best Pirsig
Really depends on what is recalled, how frequently the problem occurs and the affects of the problem
KIA/Hyundai in the background like 👀
My favorite is the made in japan version of the same car is better myth. Just riding on old reputations. I buy japanese cars dont take it as playing fanboy.
NHTSA Campaign Number: 23V751000
Manufacturer Honda (American Honda Motor Co.)
Components ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING
Potential Number of Units Affected 248,999
Summary
Honda (American Honda Motor Co.) is recalling certain 2015-2020 Acura TLX, 2016-2020 Acura MDX, 2016 and 2018-2019 Pilot, 2017 and 2019 Ridgeline, and 2018-2019 Odyssey vehicles. Due to a manufacturing error, the connecting rod bearing in the engine may wear and seize, damaging the engine.
Remedy
Dealers will inspect and repair, or replace the engine as necessary, free of charge. Owner notification letters are expected to be mailed January 2, 2024. Owners may contact Honda customer service at 1-888-234-2138. Honda’s numbers for these recalls are XG1 and GG0.
Well there are a quarter of a million people who might be getting a visit from uncle Rodney it seems. I feel that even once the recall is finished, people would rather part ways
Uncle Rodney taking a break from Subaru to hang with Honda/Acura it seems.
Hyundai has entered the chat: HI!
Imagine if this was BMW. But it’s Honda so it’s okay…
Or Hyundai for that matter
Well it seems to depend who’s issuing it. If this was a GM or Stellantis recall I’d bet money people would be making fun of them and saying how garbage they are.
This sub has selective memory… the Japanese brands have had huge issues since the 2000s. Honda/Acura automatic transmissions in early 2000 models failing. Engine sludge buildup issues in Toyota engines. More recently lots of AC issues and failures with Honda cars. Oil dilution issues with the Honda L15 turbo engine. Etc.
These are quality issues, most recent ones are caused by cost cutting and cutting corners with parts and production to make more money per car sold. Paint quality in a Honda has been shit ever since they switched to water based.
My favorite thing is how they’re put on this pedestal but Chevy and ford get shit on because V8’s might need a recall on a Dis or a manifold. JDM is more like “the whole engine is set to fail at 60k miles unless you take apart the engine, and our Autos are made of glass” meanwhile we still have dragsters using old American tech to go as fast as possible.
There’s a reason a LS1 swap kit is available for every car/truck out there
This. Since 2000, Honda has had serious brakes, engine, and transmission problems. So many people remember the 90s when they think of Honda.
As somebody that works in GM parts, a new recall is just another day on the job. Weekly I’ll have to sign off that I’ve read about a new/updated recall, and it’s usually a half dozen to a dozen different documents.