• atlasburger@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    How good are these cars outside of China? Now that they are in Europe when will they come to the American market?

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      1 year ago

      They’re fantastic. The Japanese should be on notice since they seem to be ignoring electric. The US traditional domestics (Big 3) will need to step up their electric game. BYD, NIO, etc have it figured out.

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      1 year ago

      America will need to wait. Too much political risk for Chinese companies to invest there.

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        1 year ago

        Maybe not directly, the closest we have is the Fisker Ocean, which is based on the Arcfox alpha-t, but assembled by Magna in Austria. So while there might be politics at play, we’re indirectly getting Chinese based EV tech.

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      1 year ago

      BYD is currently the second largest EV company here in Australia despite just having 1 model. With the Dolphin launched 2 weeks ago, the Seal coming early 2024 along with a pickup and possibly another SUV, I won’t be surprised they take #1.

      The MG4 also won our car of the year in Australia. The MG4 also won car of the year in the UK I believe.

      5 years ago, 1 in 100 Australian drove a Chinese brand car. Today that is 1 in 10 Australian. If you include cars made in china, that becomes 1 in 5 Australian.

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        1 year ago

        We’re seeing the same cycle repeat itself, the same is happening today with Chinese cars what happened with Japanese and Korean cars decades ago. Western makers with their gas guzzler land yachts resting on their laurels losing the battle against more efficient and better built Asian products, sending them into a panic where the only recourse they have is to beg the government to issue protectionist policies to prevent them from being swept away. It would make sense if the Western cars were still made locally, but in the globalised and heavily automated economy of today I don’t see governments finding it too worthwhile to kneecap their own energy transition just to protect a couple thousand jobs that can be retrained into other industries anyway.

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          I don’t see governments finding it too worthwhile to kneecap their own energy transition just to protect a couple thousand jobs that can be retrained into other industries anyway.

          Happening in real time right now in the USA after decades and decades of blocking green energy and offshoring everything. Now, it’s all about blocking specifically China.

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            1 year ago

            The workaround seems to be buying another brand American consumers are already somewhat familiar with, then sneaking cars here under that brand. Right now that’s limited to Volvo, Polestar, and Lotus, but there’s no reason MG couldn’t happen in the future (and frankly I hope it does, as the MG4 is sharp!).