• BrickEnvironmental37@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    The big Spanish football clubs needs to futureproof against potential Catalan independence. If Catalonia breaks from Spain, the Spanish government won’t let Barcelona play in La Liga and also a Catalan government wouldn’t want Barcelona playing over there either. It would de-legitimize an independent Catalonia. Barcelona is their crown jewel

    I’m not advocating for the Super League, I’m just saying that this is probably a part of their thinking.

  • ret990@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I dont disagree specifically with what he’s saying. He has a point, but the SL isn’t the answer, even with the PL being a de facto SL.

    All that being said, I dont remember La Liga complaining circa 2008 to ≈ 2016 when a Ronaldo/Messi lead La Liga was kicking the shit out of everyone else and taking everyone else’s best players.

    Arsenal lost so many players to Barcelona that they may as well have relocated the runway for London to Barcelona flights to N7.

    • inthetrenches1@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      All moves in cycles. PL will fall back down again eventually.

      Don’t agree at all.

      As the premier English speaking league the PL is going to be ahead of the rest of Europe forever.

      The only possible contender is the possiblity of a strong American or Chinese league in the very, very distant future.

      Italy, France, Spain, Germany etc… have no chance of ever pulling back ahead.

    • JavyDan@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      How many players did Arsenal lose to Barca, who were still in their prime? Because you’re making shit up

      • -TheGreatLlama-@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        Not so much a selling club as a really-bad-at-renewing-contracts club. I can’t think of any time we actually made good money by selling, and it felt like there were always a couple of key players on the last year of their contract since the management just couldn’t do the business. Edu has almost been a bigger revelation than Arteta, simply by being quietly competent.

  • tortaandtequila@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I’m not saying this is all they need to do, but what they need to do is reorganize their licensing like the prem did. Get control of Real and Barca(especially Barca) and promote the product massively in Spanish speaking countries. Prem was equal with Spain up until they got the second BIG deal with the US and NBC once that happened it was over.

    • RiskAssessor@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      The need to bring up the competitiveness of La Liga. Games between the top 3 teams are the only ones worth watching. That’s 6 in total. Meanwhile ManU struggling to put away Luton Town. Popcorn worthy television.

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        10 months ago

        Yeah there’s a big game almost every week in the PL. city vs Liverpool next 🥵

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      10 months ago

      promote the product massively in Spanish speaking countries

      The problem is most of those countries are either low population or have extremely well established leagues.

      Part of the strength of PL’s growth is that they’re English speaking and growing into empty massive markets where there’s zero competition (US, India, China, Japan, Africa).

      Argentina and Mexico already have their own football culture and even if you include Brazil everyone there already supports Brazilian clubs

      • tortaandtequila@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        The reason you go after those countries is because of cost, you don’t need to add any broadcasting partners you just take the Spanish coms and sell it directly to the markets. It’s not to compete with the pan american leagues its to work along side them.

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          10 months ago

          It’s not to compete with the pan american leagues its to work along side them.

          Yeah you’re not getting it.

          The average football fan supports 1 club. He has time and room in his/her heart for one club and in Mexico/Brazil/Argentina that spot in already taken by local teams who are a good standard who he’s supported his entire life already.

          He isn’t going to stop supporting Flamengo and watch every Real Madrid game. No one behaves that way.

          Where as the guy in the US who likes playing FIFA who’s starting watching football and wants a team to support is going to pick a team from an English speaking country because it’s so much easier to engage with. And he won’t pick an MLS side because the standard sucks and he has no emotional connection to it.

          If there was a wealthy Spanish speaking country with no football culture then La Liga would be killing it in that growth market right now but such a place doesn’t exist.

      • XXISavage@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        growing into empty massive markets where there’s zero competition (US, India, China, Japan, Africa).

        …what? Those markets are EXTREMELY competitive lol. First off, Africa not having its own football culture? Its probably the one thing that is consistent across the whole continent lol. Football is the biggest sport in probably every single country there, with most countries having healthy leagues that are broadcast consistently.

        Back to the no competition, it is way harder to get someone who isn’t a football fan at all to watch a game than to get someone who already enjoys the sport to watch a different game. The US and India already have sports that are entrenched into the top spots, the thing the EPL did is market itself well and made good broadcast deals to be available in those areas even before the big contracts kicked in.

        For context, despite the PL being such a huge league, Barca and Real still have way larger global fanbases than any other team bar Manchester United. That’s because those teams dominated the spotlight when the game was expanding. Key differences is the teams around United were given the facilities to flourish and get better with time whilst La Liga funnelled its resources to Barca and Real even more. The EPL didn’t decide to just market United, La Liga decided to market its big two and that’s on them

  • you-will-never-win@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Half the biggest clubs in Europe were founded by posh English lads abroad who wanted a kickabout when cricket season was over

    Atletico started as a branch of Athletic (English name) Bilbao which was founded by British workers and Basque students studying in England

    Football’s kind of our thing so it’s a bit of a cheek to complain we’re doing it better than everyone else, consider it a gift and be grateful!

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      10 months ago

      Football’s kind of our thing so it’s a bit of a cheek to complain we’re doing it better than everyone else

      When is the last time England won a tournament?

      A lot of the Premier League’s success abroad is surely a lot to do with the English language. Few of the players, managers, or owners are English.

  • SKULL1138@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    The Super League is good for me, why don’t others want what is good for me. It’s not fair.

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    10 months ago

    Yes the English have won and have created a better and more competitive league.

    But the Super League wouldn’t be good for Spanish football or any type of football. It would only be good for the elitist clubs.

  • StandardConnect@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Funny thing is PL fans/pundits will laugh at him and tell him to suck it then moan relentlessly when the Saudi League becomes big enough to do the exact same to thing to the Prem.

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      10 months ago

      The significant difference is that England is a footballing country, and has been for longer than anyone else. It’s going to take generations before anyone seriously looks at the Saudi League and thinks it’s a genuine footballing nation. The US has the same problem with the MLS, it’s slowly growing but not at any kind of rate that will worry established nations.

      People will laugh because LL has always had this arrogance that football should revolve around its two major clubs. Madrid and Barca are legendary clubs in their own right, but at the same time they probably damage the rest of the Spanish product because foreigners only really care about those two clubs. The league as a whole isn’t marketed in a way that recognises even massive clubs like Valencia.

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    10 months ago

    This guy has just made his manager the highest paid in the world. 30m a year. Maybe spending that on some players may help him. Absolute idiot.

  • MemestNotTeen@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Jude Bellingham. Vini Jnr. Soon to be Kylian Mbappe.

    Real and Barca have more pull than any club in world football. Barca managed to gazump overspending Chelsea summer 2022 on multiple signings.

    Atletico don’t have the same pull but they wouldn’t super league or no super league.

    • HowlingPhoenixx@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      Let’s be honest you can ateltico right off the table in terms of viewers. The style of football they play is so boring that it puts most fans off. That’s fine if you want to hover around the top 3-4 teams in Spain but lack longevity for bringing in new fans and making it more economically viable to actually catch up to the big two. No casual or new fan will really support atletico, we may all watch the odd game, but the bubble around them burst, and they need to think how to get to that next level. Clubs like Brighton have the right idea of sustainable growth married with watchable football. I’d imagine this would have a great impact on new fans for them. Atletico hit a plateau where they won a few things and then just stayed boring. Like they have no risk of relegation or anything and outstrip most clubs in terms of player quality in Spain but just bore the life put of anyone who has been watching teams like city real barca arsenal Brighton and so on. Spanish league needs a whole rethink, and the Super League would be the final nail in many clubs coffins.

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    10 months ago

    But I was convinced by La liga fans that it’s the strongest league in the world??? Jokes aside tho they should look to improve La liga. Super league still isn’t the answer

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    10 months ago

    He’s not wrong, there’s a massive power imbalance in European football, and it doesn’t bode well for the continent in its entirety. Super League is needed, if for no other reason but to screw UEFA over.