So I purchased a vehicle from a used car dealership in 2022 and sold it to me with “95,000”on the odometer. I didn’t know about Carfax at the time and later discover the car actually had 275,000 miles and they altered it. I unfortunately like a idiot purchased this. I tried to sell it a year later and the guy who was buying it did Carfax and was calling me a scammer but I was not aware. Long story I didn’t sell it. Now vehicle doesn’t run due to engine issues….

I can’t sell it because the miles are wrong and I am aware of this now.

I filed a fraud claim with DMV fraud division since they are a dealer and provided the contract of purchase showing miles I received and the Carfax showing the change under their ownership

My questions are

  1. would they actually investigate this or just brush it off?

  2. if they investigate and claim it was fraud would I be able to sue in civil court for my money back in exchange for the non working vehicle now ?

I’m kind of out $8,200 bucks now because of their fraud and feel stuck.

  • Smitty_Oom@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    and they altered it

    If you’re going the legal route, you’re going to have to prove that A) the dealership knew the mileage was incorrect and B) the Carfax mileage is accurate (which it isn’t, often).

    I have to ask… How did you not realize a 200k mile discrepancy? Did you not get it inspected? At that mileage there will be so many obvious signs of wear that either you didn’t look or they replaced a lot of parts.

    What car are we talking about?

  • weldermatt79@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Odometer mistakes happen all the time and vehicle history reports are often wrong. Could be a tech entered the number wrong, etc. Year/make/model of the car would help. The true mileage is stored in the computer. You can have it scanned and get the true mileage. It could also be an instance of the instrument cluster being replaced. There are lots of things that could have happened that don’t necessarily point to a roll back.

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      1 year ago

      Not to mention that a vehicle with 95k on the clock will generally have significantly more visible wear than one with 295k on it…unless there’s other items pointing to a rollback id definitely verify if the odometer is original before jumping to conclusions.

      • Current_Road_5179@alien.topOPB
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        1 year ago

        See Carfax comment above. This is a shady dealership and their reviews speak for themselves.

        I believe the car was used for Uber or ride share of some sort which is why one owner put so many miles on it before selling the car.

        The miles were clearly changed. Wether they changed odometer or rolled back. The car shouldn’t have had the miles changed. It’s true miles are over 300,000 now after the 20K+ I put on.

        I’ve had to repair vehicle with several parts since purchasing.

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          See Carfax comment above. This is a shady dealership and their reviews speak for themselves.

          I believe the car was used for Uber or ride share of some sort which is why one owner put so many miles on it before selling the car.

          Okay, and none of that matters when it comes to getting your money back.

          The miles were clearly changed. Wether they changed odometer or rolled back. The car shouldn’t have had the miles changed. It’s true miles are over 300,000 now after the 20K+ I put on.

          This is the part that matters. If you can PROVE that they rolled it back or knew it was rolled back then its time to talk to them about getting all of your money back in exchange for the car. If they won’t agree to that then it’s time for small-claims court, if your still in NV then the limit is $10k which you would fall under.

          You should 100% report them to NHTSA/DOT but I’d try to get the money from them first because this is likely a LLC that will dissolve and you’ll be trying to get blood from a rock.

          I’ve had to repair vehicle with several parts since purchasing.

          Again, not really relevant especially since in this price range we’re probably talking about something 10+ years old right?

          • Current_Road_5179@alien.topOPB
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            1 year ago

            Got it. I’m having my cousin who is attorney send a demand letter tomorrow with request for money in exchange for vehicle or a resolution or else taking them to court while the fraud with the DMV is reviewed

            The history of vehicle is clear. They have been in business long enough to know how to change miles and what the miles on vehicle was when they purchased it. I assume used car dealers aren’t buying cars without some research to probability. They held onto car for 6 months before reselling.

            I guess if they want to lie about it then we will go to court and have a judge determine it.

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    1 year ago

    I bought a beautiful AWD Mercedes estate a few years back from a dealer in New Jersey with only 40k on the odometer. Brought it home Saturday evening and the first Sunday morning drive to church the tranny gives out. Took it to a mechanic who was an ex Mercedes tech and he had Mercedes run the VIN turns out it had 140k on the odometer. Apparently Mercedes are hard to alter, dealer had to eat a 3 hour flatbed and I got all my money back. Dealer said he got it from auction like that. I was lucky it broke down right away otherwise I would have never known! If the deal is too good to be true it probably is!

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    1 year ago

    I bought a brand new vehicle a few months ago and it had over 25 hours idle time with only 400km and it what was almost ready for an oil change. All dealers are shady as fxxx

  • MarkVII88@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Tell me you didn’t do your due diligence without telling me you didn’t do your due diligence.