Quadruple moderation is killing Lemmy. It’s a gift to Reddit
There’s a rule about online communities I want people here to understand: the 90-9-1 rule.
Roughly 90% lurk, 9% comment, and 1% create.
Additionally - lemmy monthly active users is stangant at about 35k monthly active and not improving:
https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats
When I first got to Lemmy, I had trouble finding enough content I was interested in even commenting on. So I figured: why complain about the lack of content when one can start posting it myself?
That’s why I post so much.
If people don’t post, most Lemmy communities simply don’t have enough creators to sustain themselves. You need posts before lurkers can lurk, commenters can comment, and some of those people eventually become creators themselves.
I’m not posting just to flood Lemmy. I’m trying to help solve one of Lemmy’s biggest problems: not enough content creators.
And frankly, doing that has been a nightmare.
Lemmy has a quadruple-moderation problem
Every active content creator has to survive four layers:
- Community moderators can remove your posts or ban you from the community.
- Your home-instance admins can ban your entire account.
- Receiving-instance admins can block/ban you for everyone on their instance, even though you don’t belong to it.
- Public moderation history means those decisions follow you. One moderator’s decision can influence another and snowball into more moderation.
For prolific content creators, that’s brutal.
I’ve had multiple accounts banned over one or two posts that somebody didn’t like. Months of posting, comments, engagement and contributions can effectively disappear from a community because of a couple of moderation decisions.
And the more you contribute, the worse the odds become. If you make hundreds or thousands of posts, eventually you’re going to post something that one moderator somewhere doesn’t like.
You don’t need one moderation team to tolerate you. You need multiple independent moderators and admins, across multiple servers, to remain aligned indefinitely.
There’s almost no cost to deleting a creator
This is another major difference from Reddit.
There is generally no financial investment in a Lemmy community’s content. A volunteer moderator can ban someone who contributed months of posts and comments and lose all of that person’s past and future contributions without losing revenue, salary or investment. Did you know all creator posts are wiped out from lemmy after account banned?
The creator paid the cost in time.
The community loses the content.
The users lose something to read and discuss.
And the moderator who pushed the button may personally lose essentially nothing.
So who benefits from making prolific content creation this difficult?
Because it certainly isn’t Lemmy.
And this creates an enormous attack surface
I genuinely have trouble believing that everyone complaining about prolific posters simply doesn’t understand this dynamic. At some point I have to question whether some of it is deliberate.
If I were Reddit and wanted to undermine a federated competitor, this is exactly where I’d attack it: its content creators.
You don’t need to hack Lemmy. You don’t need to DDoS instances. You don’t need to take anything offline.
Lemmy already provides the mechanism.
Report prolific contributors. Call their posting “spam.” accuse them of being bots. Point moderators toward their public moderation histories. Get one account banned somewhere, then let that decision influence moderators elsewhere.
Eventually the creator gets tired of fighting and leaves.
I’m not claiming I have proof Reddit is doing this. I’m saying Lemmy’s architecture makes this kind of subversion ridiculously easy, and Reddit would be an obvious beneficiary.
Reddit doesn’t have this same federated quadruple-jeopardy problem. You’re primarily dealing with the moderation of the subreddit you’re contributing to.
Lemmy desperately needs more people creating content, yet its moderation structure makes life progressively harder for the people who create the most of it.
At some point we should be asking:
Who actually benefits from that?
A plea to admins: protect your creators ban reddit agents instead
Before banning someone, look at who is contributing and who is reporting.
If an account with zero posts in years reports someone who has contributed hundreds of posts, don’t treat those two users as equally valuable to the health of the community.
That doesn’t put creators above the rules. Remove bad posts. Warn people. Moderate proportionally.
But stop throwing away months of content and future contributions over one or two posts someone disliked.
Creating content takes time. Reporting takes seconds.
Protect the people actually building your communities.
edit: I am reposting from reddit - there is no rules against that. its actually great thing for majority of lemmy users!
This reposting tool is open source - i’ve never been hiding the fact im reposting from reddit.
people get only high quality pre-dozed, pre-moderated content.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lemmy-deep-lighthouse/
I think more people should be using similar tools and populate lemmy with content. - htis is the only way to move that 35k mau number and creat conditions for more OC on lemmy
edit 2 " but we dont want content" argument.
The fuck you dont. who the fuck is we?
And this is why I don’t buy the argument that the people still here represent what users want.
Look at the numbers.
- Fediverse: ~14 million registered, ~1.17 million MAU.
- Lemmy: ~756,000 registered, ~35,000 MAU.
Lemmy has had three quarters of a million accounts created and only about 4.6% of that number is active monthly.
Obviously that doesn’t mean 95% were all regular users who quit. But it does tell us something important: the people currently active are a tiny, self-selected fraction of everyone who has tried this platform.
So when 30 existing users say “WE don’t want more content,” you’re hearing from the people the current system successfully retained. You’re not hearing from the enormous number of people who tried Lemmy and aren’t here anymore.
Maybe instead of assuming the remaining users have figured out what Lemmy should be, we should be asking why so many people tried it and didn’t stick around.
Flooding “Lemmy” with reposts from Reddit will make “Lemmy” look like a “tardy clone of Reddit with less discussion”. Why stick with a repost platform if you can get the same content but more and earlier with Reddit? New Reddit frontend still remains browsable without login (maybe with some irritation, but anyway).
One has to act differently. To get to the sources first (or, at least before Reddit, at least sometimes). RSS feeds of publications (already worked on in PieFed), microblogging support: compatibility with Mastodon (available on MBin and now on PieFed), already existing bot comms reposting from Hacker News and Lobste.rs (both these sites have no subs and crossposting to a comm may have sense…), reposting e.g. art from Mastodon, Bluesky, cara.app…
You very obviously used Gen AI to write this. People are here to interact with people, not bots. Otherwise we’d be on Reddit.
I’m a human using a tool. The argument is mine, the opinion is mine, and I’m right here responding to you.
Then use your own words and not words generated by a machine.
Ah the tired old thing we need the fediverese like x.
Mastodon tried to do it. now you with lemmy.
people on fediverse doesn’t want cross posted stuff. They want stuff from actual people and those poster interacting with the post.
This moderation you are upset about isn’t as much of a problem.
You are trying to speed run reddit here and it isn’t going to work. Just work with what lemmy offers and eventually people will come but it is going to take time.
But “eventually people will come” is exactly the assumption I’m challenging.
Lemmy has been around for years. Hundreds of thousands of accounts have been registered, yet MAU is still tiny and countless communities are barely active. At what point does “just give it time” stop being a strategy?
And again, who is “people on the Fediverse”? The people who are still here? Of course the current users disproportionately like the current culture. The people who tried it and left aren’t here to tell you what they wanted and thats 95% of users - they are not here anymore
I’m not trying to speedrun Reddit. I’m trying to solve a very basic chicken-and-egg problem: people want human conversations, but conversations need something to start them.
If organic posting alone isn’t producing enough of that, I don’t see anything sacred about waiting another five years and hoping it suddenly does.
what chicken and egg problem. we have the eggs we are just waiting on them to hatch.
You talk about how many accounts are here like some techbro that wants to line go up. It isn’t going to happen. It took linux years to get where for people to see as a solution for their everyday computer and still more edge cases that need to be solve.
you can’t solve everything by cloning a product, you been seen as an inferior especially if you cross post stuff from another social network.
organic is the only way to get things working to attract people that is the unfortunate about these things.
The Linux analogy proves my point. Linux didn’t sit around waiting for the eggs to hatch. People identified barriers and aggressively fixed them.
Drivers sucked? Fix them. Gaming sucked? Build Proton. Installation sucked? Make it easier.
And let’s not pretend Linux grew purely “organically.” Billions of dollars and enormous amounts of engineering have been poured into Linux by IBM, Red Hat, Intel, Google, Microsoft, Valve, and plenty of other corporations.
Lemmy has empty communities and poor retention. So fix the problems.
“Organic is the only way” isn’t a law of nature. It’s a strategy. And after years of stagnant MAU, we’re allowed to question whether that strategy is working.
I don’t want line-go-up. I want critical mass so communities aren’t fucking empty.
Still took linux years. You sound like it needs to happen yesterday.
Cross posts isn’t the answer. People see that as an dead community.
I think you’re completely confusing the barriers to entry.
Linux had to overcome hardware compatibility, drivers, software availability, installation complexity, gaming support, OEM deals, and decades of Windows dominance. And even after billions in corporate investment, desktop Linux still isn’t mainstream.
Lemmy is a fucking website. Click a link, make an account, start using it. The barrier isn’t remotely comparable.
Getting Lemmy from 35k MAU to meaningful critical mass should be infinitely easier than getting people to replace their entire operating system.
And an empty community looks a hell of a lot more dead to me than one with relevant posts waiting for people to discuss them.
Took years
A community with just post and only one person posting everyday is more dead than an empty one
You’re ignoring the 99% of people who consume far more than they create.
An empty community gives them nothing. A community with one person consistently posting relevant content gives lurkers something to read, vote on, and eventually comment on.
Will one poster make a thriving community? Obviously not. But you need something there before the other 99% have anything to engage with.
“Keep it empty until organic posters magically arrive” is how communities stay empty.
I’ve got my own gripes about Lemmy but moderation is not one of them.
Reddit has a massive problem with overzealous moderation and content being modded simply because one individual mod doesn’t like or disagrees with it. Haven’t noticed any of that on Lemmy.
And I disagree that moderation is preventing Lemmy from achieving critical mass. Its gotten this far with its mod system. It feels way better populated than even a year ago. It will never have the commercial reach Reddit has but I’ve no doubt it will continue to grow.
“It feels way better populated” isn’t the same thing as actually growing.
That’s the part I keep coming back to. Lemmy’s MAU has been hovering around the same relatively small level for months now. actually down from a year ago YOY. lemmy is contracting.
https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats
^ its an objective fact based on raw numbers lemmy so nicely provides. we are down 2k MAU year over year.The current stats literally track monthly active users, and we’re still talking about roughly tens of thousands of people, not sustained breakout growth.
And the wider Fediverse has the same retention problem: FediDB currently shows 14 million total accounts but only about 1.17 million monthly active users.
So maybe your personal moderation experience has been great. That’s completely valid. Mine hasn’t.
But “it got this far” isn’t evidence that the strategy is working. If the goal is critical mass, years of stagnation and mostly empty communities are evidence that something isn’t working.
I agree that stagnation is a problem, but you’re comparing Lemmy’s growth with that of multi-billion dollar platforms with ridiculous marketing budgets and fully staffed marketing teams. That’s unfair (and unrealistic) because Lemmy is a community project that has to grow on word-of-mouth alone. It will grow much slower and with periods of stagnation because that’s the nature of the beast. And if there’s stagnantion that’s our fault for not shouting loud enough.
Also, you’re taking your negative experience and trying to pin that to user growth. I can see your point but I disagree that moderation is a major factor.
But that’s exactly why I’m proposing a solution that doesn’t require a billion-dollar marketing budget.
Reddit is doing plenty of negative marketing for itself. People are already frustrated with the platform, moderation, API changes, ads, corporate decisions, etc. Lemmy doesn’t need to manufacture that dissatisfaction or outspend Reddit. The potential users are already looking for alternatives.
The problem is what happens when they arrive.
If they open Lemmy and find inactive communities and little content around their interests, word of mouth isn’t going to fix that. They leave.
I’m proposing a way to bootstrap those communities with relevant content, give people something to discuss, and hopefully turn some of those lurkers into commenters and eventually native posters.
Maybe moderation isn’t the main cause of stagnation. I’m open to that. But “we just need to shout louder” won’t help if people arrive and don’t find enough reason to stay.
No thanks! I’d rather Lemmy/Piefed to grow organically than allowing non-credited ‘oc’ posts directly from Reddit or get it spammed with useless content.
I’m sorry to break it to you, but you’re NOT doing Lemmy any favor. We (and I say ‘we’ because I firmly believe that’s the opinion of most regular Lemmy/Piefed users) do NOT want it to become another Reddit. We want it to be better than Reddit.
And being a ‘more active’ community is not necessarily a good thing.
Also, the ‘quadruple’ moderation you described is literally an intended characteristic of the federation. You might not see it as a good thing, because your account is basically an (unflagged) spamming bot account, and that’s exactly what Lemmy wants to avoid.
And this is why I don’t buy the argument that the people still here represent what users want.
Look at the numbers.
Fediverse: ~14 million registered, ~1.17 million MAU. Lemmy: ~756,000 registered, ~35,000 MAU.
Lemmy has had three quarters of a million accounts created and only about 4.6% of that number is active monthly.
Obviously that doesn’t mean 95% were all regular users who quit. But it does tell us something important: the people currently active are a tiny, self-selected fraction of everyone who has tried this platform.
So when 30 existing users say “WE don’t want more content,” you’re hearing from the people the current system successfully retained. You’re not hearing from the enormous number of people who tried Lemmy and aren’t here anymore.
Maybe instead of assuming the remaining users have figured out what Lemmy should be, we should be asking why so many people tried it and didn’t stick around.
And why do you think ‘Lemmy’ has the interest of having millions of users regurgitating the same low quality shit from Reddit? What do you think ‘Lemmy’ (the actual community administrators that banned your accounts and your ‘content’) would gain from it?
It works on Reddit because they literally make money out of it. They don’t care about the quality of the content. Lemmy is the opposite: getting flooded/hammered by low content shit makes admins lose time and money, and it also make the whole community worse.
Because you’re assuming more users necessarily means lower-quality content, and I don’t accept that premise.
What does Lemmy gain from millions of users? More commenters, more communities, more developers, more donations, more instance operators, and most importantly, more people eventually creating genuinely native Lemmy content.
You can’t demand a thriving organic content ecosystem while simultaneously being hostile to the growth required to create one.
And Reddit content isn’t automatically “low quality” because it appeared on Reddit. Reddit contains garbage and excellent content. The entire point of curation is separating the two.
we can have both -reddit content and best organic lemmy content, but we have to grow lemmy first
btw u have 0 posts. why are you not posting?
I don’t start threads because I prefer to engage in conversations that are already happening. Writing a thoughtful, contextual reply takes infinitely more human effort than running a script that copy-pastes a Reddit headline.
We don’t need millions of users spamming Reddit leftovers to attract ‘native content’. If new users show up and find out that 80% of their feed is Reddit reposts, they won’t see it as a good place to stay, they will see it as a sort of RSS feed to Reddit. And if they want to engage with Reddit’s original content, they will go back to Reddit and discuss it there.
You say Reddit has excellent content and we just need to curate it, but your actions show the exact opposite… You clearly don’t ask yourself (and neither does your automation script) if what you’re about to repost is relevant to that specific community, or if it will add any value. And when the community admins stop you from spamming useless or valueless ‘content’, actually curating stuff, you get frustrated.
And no, I never said more users means lower quality content. I’m saying more activity is not the same as higher quality. These are two completely different statements. And no one is saying they don’t want more content either (as you mentioned in quotation marks in your edit to OP). What I (and many others here) am saying is that we don’t necessarily want more content, we want good content. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
I understand the distinction. We disagree on what counts as “good content.”
You’re assuming that because something came from Reddit and was submitted automatically, it’s inherently lower value. I’m not.
And again, this isn’t a copy-paste script blindly mirroring Reddit. There are multiple layers of curation: score thresholds, freshness limits, duplicate detection, community-specific rules, content filtering, and AI evaluation. Relevance to the specific community is literally one of the things being evaluated.
Could that filtering make mistakes? Absolutely. So can a human moderator or someone manually choosing posts. If particular posts are bad, downvote them, remove them, or tell me the filtering needs adjustment. That’s useful feedback.
But there’s also a chicken-and-egg problem with “I prefer conversations that are already happening.” Someone has to start those conversations. If most users prefer commenting rather than submitting, where are all those conversations supposed to come from?
That’s the 90-9-1 problem I’ve been talking about. Most people consume, fewer comment, and very few actually submit content.
And the results matter. Lemmy has hundreds of thousands of registered accounts, yet only tens of thousands are monthly active, and many communities remain nearly empty. We can’t simultaneously say “people prefer joining existing conversations” and then treat supplying things for them to discuss as inherently harmful.
I’m completely open to arguing about quality, volume, thresholds, or relevance. Those can all be improved.
What I reject is the idea that automated = spam and manually submitted = good. Quality should be judged by the content, not by how many mouse clicks it took to submit it.
I think the main problem here, after all, is your ego. Despite your accounts and “your” “content” being deleted by different administrators of different Lemmy communities, and despite the community itself, in this very thread, telling you’re wrong, you still act as if we all are a vocal minority of machiavellian Reddit secret agents working to destroy Lemmy.
It’s not an honest debate if you’re not ready to actually listen to criticism and do some self reflection. If all you do is to repeat these same severely flawed arguments over and over, then talking to you is like beating our head against a brick wall… it will do no good.
But I have listened to criticism. I’ve said volume is fair criticism, filtering can make mistakes, thresholds can be adjusted, and when someone pointed out the OC-label issue, I immediately agreed and said I’d fix it.
Listening doesn’t mean I have to agree with you afterward.
And this thread isn’t a representative survey of Lemmy users. It’s a self-selected group of people with strong opinions, while hundreds of thousands of people created Lemmy accounts and aren’t active anymore. We don’t get to hear why most of them left.
You can call that ego. I call it disagreeing with you.
And I’ve never said everyone criticizing me is a Reddit agent. Reddit absolutely has employees, contractors, PR people, marketers, automated systems, and other people acting in its interests. Whether any particular account here is connected to Reddit is another question entirely.
Maybe it’s Reddit. Maybe Twitter/X. Maybe Facebook. Or, gasp, Russian and Chinese influence operations. The internet isn’t exactly famous for being free of coordinated manipulation.
My point is that Lemmy’s structure makes this kind of manipulation incredibly easy. Public moderation histories, reports, fragmented moderation, and a tiny creator base give anyone trying to sow division plenty of leverage.
That doesn’t mean everyone disagreeing with me is an agent. It means pretending coordinated influence operations don’t exist on social media would be incredibly naive.
btw u have 0 posts. why are you not posting?
It’s always this same as hominem bullshit with you, all up and down your comment history. “You don’t post so your opinion doesn’t mean anything do me.” Fuck off.
you dont have a standing. contribute then you can say something
Shameless. You genuinely think you are in the right. It’s astonishing.
jerkface 0 posts, user for 3 years
Bruh, calling yourself a creator for reposting shit other people also found and reposted to a different site is the equivalent of calling yourself an artist while using genAI. 🙄
do we need a never slop meme here?
Given their profile avatar is AI-generated, well…
This post was written by AI
And now they’ve switched to posting comments generated by AI.
They are even using AI just to repost …
[…] have to be be recent (no more than 2 days), not have duplicates on lemmy, there are AI rules I typically add to enforce adherance with community rules etc. its only a high quailty highly rationed content.
im actually putting my money where my mouth is. credits are not cheap.
You can fight AI all you want, but that ship has sailed. AI is already embedded in search, moderation, coding, translation, recommendation systems, spam detection, and content workflows across the internet.
I’m using it here as a filtering and moderation tool - checking community rules, duplicates, age, relevance, and other criteria before something gets posted. That’s almost the opposite of blindly dumping content.
You can dislike AI on principle, but “AI was involved” isn’t an argument that the resulting post is bad. Judge the content and whether it follows the community’s rules.
It’s not a matter of quality, but of effort.
Nobody needs you to prompt an AI and post the results. If we wanted AI generated bullshit, we could generate it ourselves without your dumb ass.
You have no skill. You have no talent. You have nothing of value to offer what-so-ever of yourself. But now you have a device that lets you cosplay as someone who has those things, and you act like you are contributing when you’re really not.
Fuck off, cogsucker.
Yeah and everything is worse because of it now, so take your clanker simping somewhere else. It will gain you no sympathy here. Then again, this entire posts makes it quite clear you don’t seem to have any ability to read the room.
Then again, this entire posts makes it quite clear you don’t seem to have any ability to read the room.
Assuming they even read their own post.
“Read the room” is exactly the mentality I’m questioning.
The room is 35k MAU and stagnant. Maybe optimizing everything around the preferences of the people already in the room is part of why nobody new is walking through the door.
And “everything is worse because of AI” isn’t an argument. It’s an opinion. I’m using AI as a tool for filtering, moderation, and automation. Judge the results.
If Lemmy only welcomes people who already agree with the existing culture on AI, content, reposting, and what the Fediverse is supposed to be, don’t be surprised when it remains a tiny echo chamber. and at the moment - its exactly what it is - a tiny 35k MAU stagnant echo chamber
The room is 35k MAU and stagnant.
lots of people. thats why lemmy is 35K mau stagnant
AI generated comment
I was starting to wonder because of your lengthy posts and use of emphasis, did you use AI to make this post?
Uploading AI slop and posting genuine content (reposted or “spammy” or not) are two very, very different things.
im running out of time. genuinely tried to make this work but I Think lemmy is just going to stay tiny reddit controlled app
Running out of time, or tokens?
time. thats another thing im arguing - having to relitigate all the same things time and time again is exhausting and time consuming.
I guess thats another reason people just quit posting.
I suspect most of it is reddit agents however
You’re proving my point. The overwhelming majority of content on social platforms is sharing, linking, commenting on, or remixing content created somewhere else. That’s how aggregation sites work.
Reddit didn’t become Reddit because millions of users were producing original investigative journalism, memes, videos, and research. People found interesting shit and submitted it so everyone else had something to discuss.
Call it “posting,” “submitting,” or “curating” instead of “creating” if the word creator bothers you. The point doesn’t change: someone still has to find and post the content.
If nobody does that, your feed is empty.
I’d rather a feed that updates twice a day but everything is on-topic and worthwhile than one where I have to sift through reposts and screenshots to find those two worthwhile posts.
This comment is correct despite the unpopularity.
It’s correct only when you think quantity is everything and quality doesn’t matter. Do you think someone posting into a community because they think that community might like it is the same as copy pasting every post from one community into another community?
I think most people on lemmy/Piefed prefer quality over quantity.
No, the entire comment on it’s own is correct. Most content on social media is from people sharing, linking, commenting on, or remixing content found somewhere else.
The comment doesn’t say anything about quality vs quantity. They’re only talking about the state of social media and how it is built up.
My personal opinion on sanitation’s contributions is that a lot of it is spam. I’d prefer to have people manually reposting instead of this bot-like action of reposting a lot of stuff automatically, it can make communities feel empty. But all of that is aside from the comment I replied to which is ultimately correct about social media.
There is a difference between organically reposting memes you come across and setting up a bot to sync two newsfeed.
I agree. That doesn’t mean that particular comment is incorrect.
But it’s not a blind feed sync. That’s the important distinction.
There are filters for upvote thresholds, post age, community-specific rules, content requirements, and AI-assisted moderation before anything gets posted.
The end result is essentially the same content I would have selected and posted manually. I’ve just automated the repetitive work of finding, filtering, checking, and submitting it.
Automation changes the amount of manual effort required, not the intent or selection criteria. in fact lemmy.world specifically has a rule allowing automation.
You can disagree with my thresholds or posting volume, but calling it “syncing two newsfeeds” makes it sound like I’m blindly mirroring Reddit. I’m automating the curation I would otherwise be doing by hand.
We all left reddit. Reddit is still there. If we want Reddit, REDDIT IS STILL FUCKING THERE. This is the most blatant cargo cultism I have every seen. All you are doing is burying the actual signal that you have so much contempt for under a barrage of noise that you aren’t even fucking curating. You are providing NEGATIVE SERVICE and then you have the gall to bitch when people call you on it.
How have you gotten your personal worth tangled up in all this bullshit? Does this make you feel good about yourself? Because it fucking shouldn’t.
Honestly, this is such a Lemmy comment.
And highlights one of the problems here , toxicity.
Instead of engaging the poster at the problem, you just attack them personally. For some reason, this sort of behavior seems to be amplified here, moreso than Reddit.
0% of that comment was an attack on the person
OP has been getting called out for this from the start and it wasn’t always aggressive. Instead of adjusting to that feedback (if they even saw it - not like they were active in the comments), they doubled down and added more subreddits to the bot.
Then they made this unhinged whine basically saying “Stop complaining, you morons obviously don’t realize how great I am or what’s best for you”
Yeah…I get why they made it personal
You’re making this way more personal than it needs to be.
I don’t want Reddit. I want some of the content and discussion density Reddit has, without Reddit’s platform, moderation, and corporate control. Those are not the same thing.
And yes, I am curating it. There are age limits, score thresholds, duplicate checks, community rules, and filtering before anything gets posted. You can dislike the result, but calling it an unfiltered barrage doesn’t make that true.
If you think the volume is too high, that’s a fair criticism. If you think certain posts are low quality, downvote them, block me, or argue for rate limits.
But jumping from “I don’t like these reposts” to attacking my personal worth is exactly the kind of hostility that makes this place harder to grow.
Hi it’s me, the person you’re talking about.
Let’s get one thing out of the way first: you’ve admitted that your posts are automated, as if it wasn’t obvious. You’re a bot. You’re not tagged as one, but sanitation@lemmy.today is a bot that a human sometimes uses.
Now as for the content you bot, I don’t have an issue with a lot of it. Go ahead and post your links and memes. Meme culture is built on theft, anyway. I don’t dislike you any more than any other mass poster who is rarely present in the comments of their posts
It’s the content you steal from OC communities that drives me crazy. You justify it as “encouraging content” but that sure hasn’t planned out - you’re the dominant poster in every com you repost to.
You take every joke from shittymoviedetails and, by not linking the source, basically claim it as your own. But don’t think the solution is to include a link. Just don’t repost it at all.
You copy and paste other people’s complaints to a community for venting about minor gripes. And since they’re not YOUR complaints, you aren’t getting the catharsis of the original poster. You’re literally just spreading negativity. This one especially pisses me off because THAT COMMUNITY WAS DOING FINE before you flooded it.
If you’re gonna be a spambot, at least show us the respect of fixing your shitty repost machine to deal with long titles.
TL;DR: You’re an untagged bot making the Internet a worse place by reposting the dumbest shit from reddit
Fully agree, in a general way - OP is not the only case. Incl. the “I am a creator helping the fediverse grow” attitude.
As you said in your next comment:
Why is MORE content better for you than GOOD content?
not a bot. another thing that pushes active creators away from lemmy - relitigating everything over and over and over again.
its genuinely exoustingHow about reposting everything over and over?
Why are you so insistent on multiplying and spreading what already exists?
Why is MORE content better for you than GOOD content?
I would rather Lemmy be 100% OC with a handful of posts per day than for it to be yet another bucket where you can dump ancient memes. We’ve got enough sites like that.
Also, definitely a bot. Your clipboard isn’t truncating post titles when you manually copy and paste shit from reddit.
Also also, you’re not a creator. Why would an actual creator be incentivized to use a site where 99% of it is shit stolen from reddit? Wouldn’t they prefer a site with fellow creators?
I’m ok with you getting pushed out.
How about reposting everything over and over?
im not. I check for links and attempt to not repost existing links. I have 4400 posts and only small minority are accidental reposts. Thats why im urging moderators to pay attention - if one posts 20 posts and 10 of them are reposts - thats a problem.
if someone posts 4k posts and 3 of them are reposts - thats just statistics. Major difference in intent.
I’m talking about social media and the Internet as a whole.
Nothing you’ve posted is original. It’s all reddit posts that you’ve…get ready for it…reposted.
yeah call me lemmy poster. its semantics who cares . only reddit agents taht want to waste time
I don’t think it’s semantics when you’re lumping in “reposting” with “content creators”. Your post seems to imply lemmy’s moderation stifles content creators, when the posts that moderation actions are being applied to are mass reposts of reddit content, not actual organic content created by lemmy users.
What lol
You didn’t hear the good news:
Now as for the content you bot, I don’t have an issue with a lot of it. Go ahead and post your links and memes. Meme culture is built on theft, anyway. I don’t dislike you any more than any other mass poster who is rarely present in the comments of their posts
Just count your losses and move on.
I’ve had posts of mine removed. It happens. Logic dictates that it happens more the more you post.
And yes, your account is objectively bot operated (edit: at least partially). You admitted as much.
I’ve had posts of mine removed. It happens. Logic dictates that it happens more the more you post.
ive had thousands removed. this is a problem.
And yes, your account is objectively bot operated. You admitted as much. not a bot. real human here. reddit agents ofc would love to keep accusing person of being a bot
Seems you post a lot of duplicates. No wonder your posts get deleted if you keep spamming exactly the same post multiple times??? And then you violate community rules… After that you seem to be doing ban-evasion… I mean… Seems to me like Lemmy is working exactly as intended?! This isn’t a place to dump random spam posts? You gotta learn what this place is about.
You can’t just throw some dogfood at people and demand they like it. You’re not the center of the universe. Maybe start your own community if that’s your thing. You’d be able to make up your own rules there. There’s a button in the top menu bar.
When I started using federated social media I had to block a lot of people* who just mindlessly churned out posts with links to often dubious news articles etc. It became much better after that.
And often they see themselves as knights in shining armor that “help the fediverse lift off”.
It’s just another version of the terminally online forum regular.
* judging by the usernames, often the same person using accounts on different instances
I agree with your diagnosis, but I disagree with your treatment. You are doing the same mistake I did when I implemented content mirroring on alien.top: you are putting out so much automated “content” that outsiders will look at this and think the community is just a place for you to dump links.
Also, please drop the main character syndrome and the “Reddit agent” paranoia. You have multiple people here telling you that your approach is harmful to the groups that are already here. It’s not a conspiracy. Reddit doesn’t care about you.
you are putting out so much automated “content” that outsiders will look at this and think the community is just a place for you to dump links.
my posts are strictly rate limited several a day top, posts have to have 100+ upvotes on reddit - guaranteed high quality, have to be be recent (no more than 2 days), not have duplicates on lemmy, there are AI rules I typically add to enforce adherance with community rules etc. its only a high quailty highly rationed content.
posts have to have 100+ upvotes on reddit - guaranteed high quality,
ummm no that’s not how it works haha
lemmy userbase is stuck ar 35k a month. thats it.
people that propose - “lets do more of the same” and expecting different results are delusional.and since its so small - there is no content, and since lemmy bans creators that are trying to change this - it will never change.
so if this continues - there is a reason for active creators to also think - wth am I wasting my time for?
You are not an active creator. You are just trying to hack your way into community building. You are frustrated because most people are completely apathetic when it comes to actual action against Big Tech, and you think that by bringing a flamethrower to the beach you will be able to boil the oceans. Trust me, I have done the same mistake.
Yeah I really don’t like people mass-posting news articles calling themselves creators.
Or worse, shit memes. Keep them to the shitpost/meme/196 communities.
most people and mods actually love my posts and that content is highly upvoted,
look at my post history - noone of it has negative karma. im only post content people like.
my posts
There are not “your posts”, that’s what I am saying. You are just parroting things you are find elsewhere, and you are doing it in a scale that is not compatible with the current demand here. You see people saying “I am thirsty” and you respond by pointing a firehose directly at their faces.
they re my posts - because im the one posting them onto lemmy. this is valid name. another thing reddit agents would do is argue pointless semantics and waste everyone time.
haha. fuck yes - I made this.
lets take everything they have and then add original content on top.
have a cake and eat it too
is not compatible with the current demand here
there is a demand. that demand just goes back to reddit.
“I am thirsty” and you respond by pointing a firehose directly at their faces
thats what reddit agents want you to belive. just limit posting bro, we dont need so much content bro. And then people just go back to reddit.
If the demand was to get content reposts, then everyone would have been satisfied just by following lemmit.online or alien.top. Instead, the large majority of people rejected them.
But how do you know the large majority of users rejected it? You’re measuring the people who complained, not the thousands of lurkers who never say anything.
The fact that I’m here specifically because I wanted more content is itself evidence that there is demand. I’m obviously not the only person who opens Lemmy, sees a mostly empty community, and wishes there were more things to read and discuss.
And this is exactly why I question who is driving the opposition. Is it actually representative of Lemmy’s users? A small but vocal group of existing users? Or potentially people with an interest in keeping Reddit’s competitors small?
I’m not claiming I can prove Reddit agents are involved. But when a platform desperately needs content, and the loudest voices consistently attack the people bringing content onto it, I think it’s reasonable to at least ask who benefits.
Lemmy doesn’t ban creators. You are just not a creator. Your post slop and repost shit from reddit. If people would want that in their communities they could replace you with a few dozen lines of code. By all means, stop wasting your time doing the job of a bot.
I can almost guarantee that if someone posted original neonazi art most lemmy instances would ban them
and repost shit from reddit.
that makes me a creator yes. for lemmy.
thats what most posters do - only tiny tiny minority create OC
Lemmy does not need more posts, it needs more comments. It needs the personal touch of people manually reading and responding to the posts with their own personality.
If we wanted more posts we would just be using RSS feeds, we’re all here for the comments. And you making many posts dilutes the commentators so that most posts end up with 0 comments. Posting needs to be properly paced to ensure maximum comments per post. And real human comments, not AI or copy pasted.
these people will never come while lemmy dont have content. chicken and an egg problem
It’s a chicken-and-egg problem though. What are people supposed to comment on if there’s nothing being posted?
I agree that comments and actual human discussion are ultimately what makes a community feel alive. But you need something to start those conversations.
And the reality of social platforms is that the overwhelming majority of people aren’t going to create posts or even comment. They lurk. A tiny percentage actually supplies the content everyone else consumes and discusses.
Lemmy sitting around 35k MAU while tons of communities barely get new posts is pretty good evidence that simply waiting for organic conversation to magically appear isn’t working.
You need posts to get comments, comments to get lurkers engaged, and engaged lurkers to eventually produce more posters and commenters. You can’t skip the first step.
We have posts already. Even if we literally did not have any existing posts, optimizing for maximum comments per post means you make at most one post per community per day.
And most importantly you should be eager to reply to comments in your posts, if you posted it then it would be something you’re interested in.
Honestly looking at your profile, you don’t do too bad. Maybe just slow it down slightly and allow the posts to get saturated with comments, post about the things that you’re most interested in, and give it a personal touch so you’re not just a bot.
And stop using AI for comments lol, Lemmy hates AI
Also, please drop the main character syndrome and the “Reddit agent” paranoia.
I post to communities that Im interested in. thats why I came here from reddit.
PCMR and gaming had no contribution at all when I started posting. Im building up those communities, ya welcomein fact I intentionally dont want to post to games community as it had more contributors, I intentionally picked community with less active contributions. and im sorry - many mods actually reached out and thanked me for contributing.
Also, please drop the main character syndrome and the “Reddit agent” paranoia.
not just me. many people tried lemmy and back on reddit at this point. just too little content, too much moderation
Can I point out - lemmy MAU is stangant 35k a month, this is a problem.
if its still stagnant by now - it will never improve organically going forward:https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats
what is your solution for attracting users?
all im hearing is some whishy washy - “they will come” organically - but they are not coming organically. why is that? there is no content thats why.
lemmy MAU is stangant 35k a month
Social media usage is declining everywhere.
this is a problem.
It’s not a problem if you consider that “Lemmy” is just one of the many ways that people can interact with the open social web. The Fediverse as whole has 50x more users. RSS feeds are (slowly) making a comeback. People who are really deep into their interests (photography, DIY audio, hardware) still have and prefer their specialized forums over hanging out with Reddit bots and agency interns that are doing “social media PR” on certain subs.
Seriously, it seems that you grew up in a time when Social Media was fun and exciting and you’re too attached to those memories. These times are gone. Let go of the nostalgia, focus your energy on building something new and of your own instead of running around trying to convince the rest of the world that we need to go back to some imaginary utopia that never really existed.
I think this is exactly the disconnect: not everyone shares your vision of what the internet should become.
Saying “RSS is making a comeback” as an answer to stagnant social network growth is honestly kind of absurd. RSS is useful, but the average person isn’t abandoning Reddit, Facebook, or TikTok to curate RSS feeds and hang out on specialized forums.
And “the Fediverse has 50x more users” doesn’t solve Lemmy’s problem. Someone wanting a Reddit-style discussion platform isn’t interchangeable with someone posting on Mastodon or using another ActivityPub service.
I’m not asking to recreate some imaginary Reddit utopia. I want the good parts of Reddit: active communities, constant content, and discussion, without the centralized corporate platform, censorship, and control. A federated Reddit alternative is valuable precisely because it can provide that experience differently without corporate overlords banning whatever they want.
You may personally want something completely different from social media. That’s fine. But that’s your vision, not necessarily what everyone who might use Lemmy wants.
If Lemmy is stagnant and huge numbers of communities are nearly empty, telling potential users to “let go” and accept that they shouldn’t want a Reddit-like experience clearly isn’t working.
average person isn’t abandoning Reddit, Facebook, or TikTok to curate RSS feeds and hang out on specialized forums.
The average person is not going to Reddit as well, unless they are searching for something online and end up in a linked discussion.
Someone wanting a Reddit-style discussion platform
YOU want a Reddit-style platform, but you don’t want to use Reddit, so you are trying to create your own version of it, with blackjack and hookers. You are part of an tiny minority that is too focused on the medium instead of the message.
You are in the minority. People just want to connect with each other. The medium rarely matters for them.
A federated Reddit alternative is valuable because it can provide that experience differently without corporate overlords banning whatever they want.
And now you are seeing that if you remove the “corporate overlords”, the power will be exerted by a multitude of dysfunctional, disorganized tribes. Consider this an opportunity to understand the myth of the Noble Savage.
Please don’t engage with the AI commentors.
I know that by this point I’m talking to myself, but it’s fine. Weirdly enough, it’s working as some form of catharsis in relation to my own experience with Fediverser and even Communick itself. It’s almost 7 years now that I’ve running this here, and seeing someone else so obsessed with this idea of “taking down Reddit” is making me realize how unhealthy my own behavior has been.
You’re doing exactly what you’re accusing me of doing: taking your own preference and declaring that it’s what “people” want.
You say people don’t care about the medium, they just want to connect. Great. Then why are Reddit, Facebook, TikTok, Discord, forums, and the Fediverse radically different products with different communities and usage patterns? The medium obviously affects how people connect.
And yes, I specifically want a Reddit-style link aggregation and discussion platform without Reddit controlling it. I’m clearly not alone, because that’s basically the niche Lemmy itself occupies. Otherwise, why build communities, posts, comments, voting, ranking, and subscriptions in this format at all?
The funny thing is I actually agree with your last paragraph.
Removing the corporate overlord doesn’t automatically remove arbitrary power. It distributes that power among hundreds of independent admins and moderators. That’s precisely what my post is criticizing.
Federation solves centralized control, but it introduces a different problem: fragmented moderation where multiple independent people can exercise power over the same user’s participation.
That’s not an argument for going back to Reddit. It’s an argument for recognizing the weakness in the federated model and figuring out how to make it better.
what is your solution for attracting users?
“attracting new users” is not a sentiment that is shared by all of us, not at any cost anyhow.
The cost being the fediverse becoming a sad impersonal place (like reddit) before it even lifts off.
Your “solution” might attract a few people - those who think bigger numbers are better, always.many people want to switch from reddit, but cant - no content.
also noeone everyone shares your definition of lemmy. to me - I would love it to be decentralized reddit. im fine with reddit content as long as I dont have to use reddit.many people want to switch from reddit, but cant - no content
That’s a bullshit statement. It doesn’t even make sense. Once again, you’re thinking people only want to participate in platforms that already have a fuckton of users. (edit: or content, sheesh)
also noeone everyone shares your definition of lemmy
That’s what I said. And again, it’s not just Lemmy. Do you even understand how the fediverse works?
OP has a point though. We do need more people, more original content…
Issue is… (and I’m explaining this to OP:) It can’t be low quality content. Reposts also kinda make it look like a dead place with mostly bot activity… You’re not the first person to come up with the idea to spam this place and it’ll attract users. We already tried this strategy and it does not attract new users. You can look up a bit of history of this place and you’ll see you have to come up with a better idea and not continue to make the same mistake other people already made.
That’s a fair concern. I agree that a wall of obvious bot spam can make a community look more dead.
The problem is the 99% problem: roughly 99% of users aren’t creating posts at all, much less original content specifically for Lemmy.
Even Reddit runs heavily on people finding interesting stuff elsewhere and sharing it. That’s what I’m automating - curation, not a blind feed. Popularity thresholds, age limits, community rules and content filtering are all applied.
Original content is obviously better. But you need an active community before you can realistically expect enough people to create it.
Yeah, though that’s not original in any way. It’s a curated dumpster of Reddit posts. And people don’t like it. As I said we’ve already tried it before. We shouldn’t keep making the same mistake over and over again. We need less re-posts, less rehashing of content from better platforms… Why would anyone join a platform with mostly re-used material? They’re gonna stick with the original! And that’s where we’re at.
You’re arguing against something I didn’t say. I didn’t say people only join platforms that already have a fuckton of users. I said people leave or don’t stick around when there’s not enough content they’re interested in.
Those are completely different things.
You can have a smaller community and still have an active, interesting feed. But if someone opens Lemmy, searches for their interests, finds communities with a handful of posts from weeks ago, and goes back to Reddit where those same interests have fresh discussions every day - that’s a content problem, not a “must have millions of users” problem.
And yes, I understand federation. Saying “the Fediverse isn’t just Lemmy” doesn’t change the argument. Federation doesn’t magically create posts in an inactive Lemmy community.
People need something to read before most of them will have something to comment on. That’s the entire point.
Edit: Sorry, already posted this above
We do need more people, more original content…
Issue is… It can’t be low quality content. Reposts also kinda make it look like a dead place with mostly bot activity… You’re not the first person to come up with the idea to spam this place and it’ll attract users. We already tried this strategy over and over again, and it does NOT attract new users. You can look up a bit of history of this place and you’ll see you have to come up with a better idea and not continue to make the same mistake other people already made.
- Public moderation history means those decisions follow you. One moderator’s decision can influence another and snowball into more moderation.
This has got to be the first time I’ve seen the modlog listed as a negative aspect of lemmy?
Strictly speaking, it’s not the first time. We’ve had issues with the specific way the modlog works, before. But usually that’s edge-cases. Not someone questioning transparency and accountability be part of the platform in itself…
OMG - the modlog functionality is severely lacking.
But it’s infinitely better than reddit’s modlog.
if there is no independent dispute process, and no accountability and removal process for abusive moderators - modlog should not be public in my opinion. Just too easy to exploit and influence
That’s a known issue. There might be some improvements for you with the upcoming version 1.0. I’m not sure if that’s gradual improvement or more fundamental changes… But many parts of the moderation system aren’t perfect and everyone is aware of its limitations. I think you’re invited to help out if you can contribute code, come up with a specification that works smoothly in real-life (including edge-cases), become a mod and do a better job at it than the current ones, or anything like that.
I guess complaining is fine as well. But you really don’t want to be part of the problem at the same time. Nobody is going to listen to you this way. You want to be part of the solution to give some weight to your words/opinion.
And good luck with your opinion how Reddit is better than this place… As far as I know they have way better systems to track you, prevent ban-evasion, they have some fully automatic systems to silence you… You can’t even look at what kind of information they keep about you… That’s kinda caprice as we do times a thousand if you ask me. But you’re also invited to use that platform if you like it better?!
The modlog itself isn’t the problem. A public modlog combined with effectively no simple straightforward appeals process is the problem.
A moderator can ban you, put a reason in the public record, and there is no built-in independent process to challenge it, present evidence, or have the decision reviewed. That entry can then be seen by the next moderator, who may treat the previous ban as evidence that you’re a problem.
So the reality is pretty brutal:
Ban → public record → no meaningful appeal → next moderator sees the ban → increased chance of another ban.
Transparency is good. An irreversible public accusation with no real mechanism to dispute it is not.
I think modlogs should not be accessible to public unless there is a simple dispute process and accountability for abusive moderators also baked in. some jury, something
Idk what to tell you. I mostly like what you repost from Reddit, but saying all this is absolutely making the situation worse. It feels like you could make some simple changes, keep posting most of what you do, and make a lot of folks a lot happier.
I want combined thing - take everythign good reddit has, but also produce own original content (which btw own content could be garbage too).
I too wish Reddit would federate, but that’s not happening, and forcibly doing it yourself doesn’t really seem to be accomplishing your goals.
oh I have ideas ;)
edit: I am reposting from reddit - there is no rules against that. its actually great thing for majority of lemmy users!
As a member of the admin channels, this seems to be the most loathed part about your account. Reddit is a hatred echo chamber for the fediverse, second only to AI. While you view it as a positive element, nearly everyone else here left reddit and take offense to it’s posts following them. They view your participation to be bot-like behavior and that’s why you’re seeing so much pushback to your accounts in particular. I can promise you that a normal user that isn’t aggregating reddit content for the fediverse is not sharing your moderation and banning experience.
For a normal user, the gauntlet is much different. At least on the .zip domains, our policy is to not interfere with reports that don’t have a user or community that belongs to our instance unless it’s something requiring fast action like csam or doxxing, etc. We leave the rest to the mods and admins that the community belongs to.
Your account doesn’t offend me and I appreciate your participation but I will say that I’ve blocked you on my browsing account since I browse New/All and I don’t enjoy seeing what amounts to an overwhelming feed of reddit posts.
TL;DR: You’re using the fediverse in way that the majority of the platform feels it wasn’t designed for so you’re going to continue seeing the same retaliatory behaviors for as long as you continue to participate in that manner.
I appreciate the explanation, and honestly this “we dont want to be reddit” idea was brought up several times.
But I think there’s a fundamental disagreement here: not everyone shares your idea of what Lemmy should be. The existing 35k-ish MAU shouldn’t get to permanently define what Lemmy is allowed to become.
If the current philosophy were working, we’d see it in the results. Instead, Lemmy’s active user base has largely stagnated, and enormous numbers of communities are empty or get a couple of posts a week. Whatever we’re doing now isn’t producing meaningful growth.
And “we left Reddit” doesn’t necessarily mean “we never want to see anything that appeared on Reddit.” I left Reddit too. I wanted an alternative platform, not an alternative universe where interesting links, memes, news and discussions become contaminated because somebody also posted them on Reddit.
If my volume overwhelms New/All, that’s completely fair criticism. That’s something we can solve with posting limits, better filtering, community subscriptions, blocks, or better tooling.
But “the existing users don’t like this, therefore this isn’t what the Fediverse is for” becomes circular. The people who don’t like the existing culture may simply leave, so naturally the remaining population increasingly reflects that culture.
I’m trying a different approach because I want Lemmy to actually grow beyond its current niche. If most communities are empty and the active-user count isn’t meaningfully growing, I don’t think we should treat the status quo as proof that we’ve already figured out what users want.
And now you’re subjecting us to AI slop comments? Fuck all the way out of here with that shit. Use your own goddamn brain.
argue the points if you can.
When you make a point, I will. I’m not going to respond to slop.
I sign off on everything that was said.
But I think there’s a fundamental disagreement here: not everyone shares your idea of what Lemmy should be. The existing 35k-ish MAU shouldn’t get to permanently define what Lemmy is allowed to become.
I completely agree with you but until the community as a whole swings more toward wanting to feel like a Reddit part deux but without the algorithms, you’re going continue seeing this pushback and fighting an uphill battle. I wasn’t condoning the way your accounts are being treated. Lemmy and Piefed have a fairly robust blocking and filtering system. Your aggregation doesn’t affect my use of the platform at all because I’m able to hide it and I feel that’s enough protection, I don’t want to see your accounts reprimanded for behaving in a way that’s not breaking any rules that I can find.ike I said, I’m glad you’re here, regardless of whether I benefit from your posts or not. We need the variety to protect from these polarizing extremist mentalities towards behavior that doesn’t really effect us personally at all.
That being said, I am ok with stagnant growth metrics but I do understand that many users are not ok with that and desire for it’s popularity to explode. If it were ever to become as popular as reddit, I’m sure I would be looking for the next niche platform because I know in my heart that you can’t see that kind of popularity without the negative aspects that come along with it.
I’m able to hide it and I feel that’s enough protection.
“Why should I change it? He’s the one that sucks.”
New users shouldn’t have to start their experience by blocking a bunch of accounts.
They don’t. As I said, I browse New/All and it’s a niche platform. I’ve been a new user, and as very few people browse the way I do, for the most common method of browsing, simply creating your sub list and blocking a very few accounts that don’t align with your desirable feed is more than enough effort to keep from seeing anything you don’t want to.
If you’re going to repost someone’s picture from Reddit that they tagged as “OC” (Original Content), at least don’t copy the title verbatim and mislead people into thinking your repost is OC…
https://ani.social/post/35620231
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1vn59fb/shark_fin_eclipse_sunset_mallorca_es_oc/
in my opinion - lemmy is just trying to be defederated reddit. I think it would be mistake to think of it any other way.
from that perspective - I see no problem with reposting highly upvoted reddit content, absolutely every major social network recycles content from other network. Only lemmy seems to be pointing that out as a problem for some reason.I mostly agree with your post, but come on. If it’s OC, it should be credited appropriately.
I pull some stuff from Reddit to repost, but I always pull from the source and not Reddit itself. Lemmy doesn’t need to be an exact clone of Reddit to succeed. We should be crediting creators where possible.
If it’s OC, it should be credited appropriately.
see Velma- problem is people complain if I put links back to reddit. (I used to do that)
many communities dont want to credit reddit thats why I stopped doing that.lemmy has double identity issue - nobody can agree on one pattern.
It would probably help if your AI can check if a post is labeled as OC (I guess a simple local language model should be enough for something this trivial, maybe some edge case detection for manual review) and re-label it as a repost.
This is literally the first time anyone has raised the OC labeling issue with me. And yes, that’s easy to fix. I can add a check for OC labels and either reject those posts or correctly mark them as reposts.
This is exactly the kind of feedback I’d rather get: identify a concrete problem and I’ll fix the tooling, instead of jumping straight to “ban the account.”
I agree. That said, I’d imagine it would be easier to start new communities - and probably a new instance to host said communities - than to change things by complaining here. That’s the part of what makes the Fediverse great, after all.
Ignore people complaining is the best advice I can give on Lemmy after being here for a while.
Instead of trying to post in communities with shit-ass mods (looking at you JonsJava), find communities that have more reasonable mods and build up there. You have to find the people that appreciate your posts which is frustrating sometimes, but so much better than trying to deal with mods that love the smell of their own farts.
I think it should be done per community. if community wants to credit reddit with a link - I will absolutely comply.
You literally just repost from reddit. You arent the first person to do it, you won’t be the last, but it doesn’t actually make the fediverse look more active, it makes it look like a bot-filled ghost town.
Yeah I’m testing new reposting tool. Why
- sanitation@lemmy.radio
This reposting tool is open source - im not hiding the fact im reposting from reddit, never did as you discovered.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lemmy-deep-lighthouse/
I encourage more people to use it and populate lemmy communities with content.
using automation is not against lemmy.world rules. There is a real person clicking the button and reading all ofthe responses. I just can post posts Im interested in much much quicker - that should not be a problem, thats a good thing.
