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    one of our literature teachers had a thing about students who didn’t read the books from the course and she was giving out a “free one” to any student who would bullshit their way through report creatively. barely anyone ever managed to get a grade that way though because it wasn’t creative enough.

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    I wrote a five page essay in the six hours before the 9am deadline, while high as balls. Kids these days gotta lock in. And do more drugs.

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    I wrote them by hand, in cursive. But not before I made a harvard outline.

    But seriously if anyone out there is actually trying to write an essay, the harvard outline model is legit for organizing and setting up.

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      Outlines have always driven me insane. I prefer to write like a deranged animal and then restructure as necessary

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      Huh, I was taught the Cornell outline method. I didn’t know there was competition!

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      Nice. Been a while since I’ve seen that. I used mind maps, then structured. This seems like the clean version but mine I could write on a chalk/whiteboard before I hand wrote it in the Harvard format. 2000+ word essays, several pages long, MLA style. Always an A.

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      Never saw anything like that, but I more or less gravitated towards something like that. Just Intro - Point 1 - Point 2 - Point 3 - Conclusion

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        Yeah, this is some basic stuff, but I guess it’s good to have formalized to teach people. I don’t recall what method I was taught, but it was something similar to this. I don’t ever remember using it so formally though. Just basically outline what you’re going to go over, and then fill it all in. I think almost all formal structures like this should be abandoned once you understand how they function, and it should be adapted to what works best for you. The formal version is just a starting point.

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          I think being super formal like this method really pays off when you have to collaborate. Far easier, more efficient and accurate to say “Look a section IV.c and tell me what you think.” Rather than “that one part with the dude, ya know”

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            Most writing outlines are for yourself though, but yeah, when it’s in an organization you need something formalized, at minimum just so you can quickly find what you need to find. If every person has their own system of organizing things then it’s going to be a mess.

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    Meme aside, it’s refreshing to see punctuation used in a meme, and it makes it so much easier to read

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    I’m actually teaching some students who honest to God are in their early teens and LITERALLY cannot string two sentences together. I never want to hear anybody tell me about how writing assignments were a waste of time again, because I can PERSONALLY vouch that if you don’t practice it, you literally cannot do it at all.

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      Essay writing (for example exercises that you are arguing for one side vs the other) is major part how you learn critical thinking.

      I suspect that the educated people who were anti vax during covid most likely paid others to write essays for them.

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        I think it can play a part and help many though your statement feels as though you’re implying it’s required for critical thinking. I could be wrong however. I bring it up because I don’t feel like the essays I’ve had to write contributed to my understanding of critical thinking as much as empathy did.

        If you didn’t mean it that way, carry on! If you did, I’d be very interested to learn what makes it intrinsic to the critical thinking framework.

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          It’s not about understanding critical thinking it is about thinking critically.

          When you write an essay to compare and contrast, or pick a position about specific subject you know that you can’t use your for feeling or use some random guy on Facebook you still have to back it up if you want to get a good grade. It doesn’t even matter what your position is, as long as you do work. You know the teacher won’t accept any bullshit. It purposefully is also given topic that you are unlikely to know about so you do that work.

          This is what teaches you critical thinking skills, that you can apply in your life in the future for new things.

          People who has others do this work for them or attended colleges that didn’t do this got nice disservice done as it is much easier to lie to them.

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            Ah, okay I see where my disconnect was. Since it’s the most common application of critical thinking for me, I was thinking of it in terms of introspection. It might just be that I got enough practice in school that I sometimes forget it’s not the default way most folks look at things.

            Thanks for elaborating!

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      LITERALLY cannot string two sentences together. I never want to hear anybody tell me about how writing assignments were a waste of time again

      If these young adults can’t put two sentences together, then it seems like their writing assignments were definitely a waste of time.

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          That is the point, yes.

          Which is another thing. The ones who never do the reading assignments have ABYSMAL reading comprehension. And I don’t just mean like, they can’t find symbolism - I mean:

          “Bob picked up the scissors off the counter.” “What did Bob pick up?” “…I don’t know.”

          It’s legitimately scary.

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    The year was 2010. I was taking a required English class for my degree. The final was a surprise hand written essay. That final might as well have been raising a barn for most of the class.

    I might have been in trouble if it was cursive. Fucking capital G

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      I had an art history class that had hand-written essays for every question on every exam. You brought your composition notebook to class and sat there writing two or three paragraphs for every question. There weren’t very many questions (6-8 IIRC), but still it was pretty grueling.

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        That is close to how all exams were in high school in my country (except for stuff like languages and math). No notes, just blank answer papers and the questions you needed to answer. Then you would just write from what you remembered, from the lessons and the course book. Some questions required longer answers, some you could write just a short paragraph for, depending how many points you could get from them (usually 2-6, the full points for the exams were up to 60). This would continue in some university courses, there just would be only two or three questions, that required long essay answers.

        In the lower grades the answers required would get longer as you moved grades up, and you would have all sorts of easier things too (some direct short questions etc.). Multiple choice questions were parts of some language exams. In math classes you would solve some equations, and the important part was showing how you got the result. So even if you were wrong, you could still get almost full points, if you fumbled some single thing.

        I am always shocked to hear, when people tell their exams were multiple choice questions. That does not even teach you anything?

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        Or asshole teachers that have a long form essay exam but only give A if it is not only correct but beautiful and excellently written, not even for an English or writing course.

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      I remember getting told not to use wikipedia as a source and that was pretty obvious. We also got told it was a great jumping off point and that the listed sources could be used. I feel like Wikipedia is the only thing I trust anymore.

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    You want me to believe J.R.R Tolkien generated a whole new series and setting without AI?

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      Dude was a multidimensional being from an alternate future where magic was real and he copied history books. Occam’s razor man, sometimes the simplest answer is the right one. /s just in case.

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    Skim the book, read a couple reviews online, find a couple random quotes from the book, then write a 10 page comparative essay discussing how the book relates to American exceptionalism and do it again next week.