Unclear if threat has been carried out or if move will jeopardise talks with US scheduled for Sunday

Iran has said it is closing the strait of Hormuz after waves of Israeli strikes in Lebanon in a move that threatens to derail the fragile interim peace deal with the US, signed just days ago.

The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps warned ships not to approach the strategic waterway, which before the war carried a fifth of global oil and liquid gas supplies, citing what it called Israeli crimes in Lebanon and a US violation of commitments to establish a ceasefire there.

It was unclear if the threat had been carried out, or if it would jeopardise talks in Switzerland scheduled for Sunday that were supposed to start the process of turning the current interim agreement between the US and Iran signed this week into a more detailed deal covering Iran’s nuclear programme.

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    There will be many farmers trying to grow crops without fertilizer within the next twelve months.

    I hope for your sake that you have spent the last half a decade practising how to grow your own food. Anything perishable and annually seeded is going to become hellishly expensive next year.

    Basically, the straight of Hormuz needed to be fully open by the end of June in order for fertilizer to be cheap enough to be widely used by farmers next year. Since it isn’t going to be open, supply is going to be increasingly starved, and prices increasingly unaffordable the longer it stays closed. We could easily see widespread crop failures due to lack of fertilizer in places where industrial agriculture is dominant. And this will, of course, cascade down through other products like beef, pork, and chicken, as many farms absolutely rely on fertilizer-dependent crops to feed these animals. Food could quite literally become unaffordable for many people.

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      My wife and I started to figure out vegetable gardening back in 2018-ish, just for fun. We got interrupted by a flood and having to move in 2019, but we were getting good amounts of potatoes and squash in 2020. We got chickens in 2022, and Ww grew and gave away a few hundred pounds of potatoes in 2024.

      In November 2024 I was casting about for some sort of something I could do to keep my family somewhat safe or at least unnoticed. I bought a few acres in a rural area. Maybe that was a bad idea. Maybe it was a good idea. Don’t know yet.

      We are up to 15 chickens now. We spent 2025 figuring out what we can and can’t grow at the new place, and in 2026 our garden is coming along nicely. Hopefully by 2027 it will be even better.

      I’ve been making friends with locals, and I’ve even been getting involved in the local town hall. I’ve noticed something interesting. Everyone under the age of about 75 in the area absolutely hates trump and the spinless weenies who are supporting him in the government. It’s interesting because everyone online assumes every rural bumpkin must be a trumpette. That’s not really the case. Trumpettes are much more common in suburban areas, at least local to me.

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      I remember F150’s and suburbans and excursions and other bug SUV’s suddenly getting real cheap in 2008 when gas went crazy. There were Ford excursions three years old going for $5k-8k.

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    The Guardian:

    Iran has said it is closing the strait of Hormuz after waves of Israeli strikes in Lebanon in a move that threatens to derail the fragile interim peace deal with the US, signed just days ago.

    So, Israel doing the very thing which was explicitly in the peace deal as something that couldn’t happen isn’t at all the “move that threatens to derail the fragile interim peace deal”, it’s Iran reacting to the peace-deal itself being broken that’s the thing threatening it.

    And some people actually think this Manufacturing Consent specialist pro-Zionist English newspaper is left-of-center …

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      to be technical, it’s more trump’s fault for promising something the US could not guarantee. of course it’s israel’s fault for doing all this war in the first place but creating an unworkable deal is trump’s fault.

      you can of course be left-and-center and still make mistakes such as this. despite what it was in the 1930s, guardian has been pretty consistently fair about this

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        I suggest you go check the Manufacturing Consent community if you think The Guardian has been fair - they’re a pretty reliable presence there when it comes to anything involving Israel.

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          i have just scrolled through ten days without finding a trace. search results, the recent one is about the news item itself without any objections to the wording. the rest are from months ago and mostly do the same or are using guardian as a counterexample or pointing out the common use of passive voice in news headlines. the exceptions i didn’t find convincing

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            Every time The Guardian says “the Iranian Regime” but not “the Israeli Regime”, they’re framing both sides differently, which they do all the time time.

            Ditto when they say that Iran “claims” but US/Israeli sources “say”, again countless times - in one of those for example within a single paragraph (the 3rd) you have “Iran claims” and “US officials said”.

            I bet you’re so used to them using differently charged words for different sides you just accept it as natural without spotting that they’re using differently charged words and implying different levels of trustworthiness for each side, which is exactly how Manufacturing Consent techniques work on people who don’t try and spot such forms of manipulation.

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              1. as bad as Israel is, it is not an authoritarian state oppressive of its “own” people, even though that doesn’t justify invading Iran. it is trending that way but it’s somewhat far from having an IRGC
              2. you’re not comparing “Iran claims” to “US said”; you’re comparing “Iranian claims” to “US said” instead of “US statements”. here, “claims” is just shorter. in your example the word “claims” is used at the same frequency for trump and iran. google results suggest “US statements” is used at about the same percentage as “Iranian statements”
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                1. You must have somehow missed the 1/3 of people who live in Israel and don’t have the right of voting there even if the lived there all their lives, their parents lived there all their lives and their grandparents lived there all their lives. Or how only a Jewish person can be an Israeli National and non-Jews can only be Israeli Citizens which is different in Israel and has less rights.
                2. Mate, it’s literally there: “Iranian claims” and “US officials said”. Same paragraf, talking about exactly the same subject of did the US bombs damage an Iranian nuclear facility or not - per The Guardian the US Officials said they did damage it whilst Iran claimed they didn’t. Your slimy misdirection attempt about “statements” doesn’t change what’s actually there.

                I take back my bet that you’re just used to seeing Manufactutring Consent framing and think it’s normal - per your point 2 it’s clear that you yourself are purposefully trying to spread misinformation.

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                  1. That’s true. It doesn’t change that Iran is more oppressive, unfortunately. I hold that oppressing everyone (and especially a certain nearly 1/2 of the population) is worse than apartheid oppression.
                  2. My entire argument is that “Iranian claims” is different from “Iran claims” and The Guardian uses the noun phrase for everyone at the same rate. You might argue about the latter, but the former is what The Guardian uses to refer to “the things that X said” and not “X said”, because there is no such thing as “Iranian saids”, and the closest alternative “statements” is just longer and rare.
                    Your reply does not address that, or that I did also argue the latter. From looking across their articles, including the one you sent and not just that paragraph, The Guardian uses “claims” the verb for Iran at about the same rate it does for the US. In fact, the same goes for the noun phrase in that article. (listing both: Trump claims, Iran has claimed, Trump was quick to claim, Mohammad Eslami[ ]claimed, Iranian claims, Trump’s claims.)
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    All you need to know:

    Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel’s prime minister, has vowed to keep Israeli forces in southern Lebanon until any threat to Israel is eliminated. Hezbollah has refused to halt its attacks unless Israel commits to withdrawing from Lebanon, which Iran says is also a condition of the deal.

    All this chaos cause Israel thinks it can take land to stop attacks instead of triggering more attacks.

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    Fair enough. Fucks us all economically, but that’s a lot ofl lives currently at risk in Lebanon.

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      It’s not about Lebanon. It’s about peace in the Middle East or bombed out desalination plants and mass migrations into Europe.

      The sooner people start realizing this the sooner Hormuz opens.

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    As soon a s the Stock Market goes DOWN enough to buy cheap then the strait will open so they can sell those stocks they bought.

    Buy low, sell high. There is no other way to do it.