“I never got why everyone hated the mass-and-child-rapist, but now that he doesnt want to murder iranians anymore… I get it now.”
Except it isn’t that he doesn’t want to murder iranians any more. It’s that he put himself in a lose-lose situation and he somehow doubled down and made the loss even worse.
If that president could read he’d be very upset
“betrayed the Israelis”… Why does America owe Israel anything?
My first Reddit ban was for attempting to ask that question in the most politically neutral way possible.
Completely unrelated but hindsight being 20/20 the warning signs were always there with moderated centralized forums like reddit.
I have my same reddit acct I’ve had for 15+ years. I’m banned from few aubreddits but my first and most memorable was from AskReddit for doxxing myself. To remove the ban they told me I had to draw a picture of some stupid shit like a giraffe in a Santa hat because it was Christmas or something. That was when I realized I don’t want anything to do with these stupid ass moderators power tripping over a users engagement on a forum. Absolutely asinine.
yeah, I’d also ask: what more could we give them that hasn’t been given already? also, it just illustrates how there’s no offramp, no future peace with this government - Bibi knows only perpetual war will keep him in power, and maybe out of jail, so they’re all out for it and thought trump would be dumb enough to go even further.
it’s pretty mind boggling. he is really dumb tho so…maybe they think they can neg him into it? fuck…
Trump is a dumb mother fucker but Israel has their own dumb mother fucker. The fact that he feels “betrayed” is quite telling about who wanted this shit in the first place.
If the “enlightened” world is totally on board with genocide then we are so fucked.
I’ve never felt the need for the “we are not the same” meme before reading this .
Trump< /could/ have been the best president of all time!? By those standards, where literally anything is possible, it could have been a dismembered hand on a tek deck. Just as likely.
Ffs. For him to have become the best President of all time. He’d have to become a fundamentally new person with almost exclusively opposite traits.
What a stupid fucking article written by a stupid piece of shit. Any and every president could have been the greatest if they made the right decisions.
You could have been the greatest president of all
No, he couldn’t have
You betrayed us, the Israelis.
I realize I don’t necessarily speak for all of my fellow Americans when I say this, but I could not possibly care less if Israelis feel betrayed by Trump. He’s not your president, it’s not your government, go fuck yourselves.
But he is the President they paid for! Doesn’t that count at least a bit?
I’m sorry but you’re past the 90 day return policy. Best I can do is a discount on the next president you purchase.
Buy two presidents, get one governor free!
Do I ever have a deal for you!
You don’t have to worry about your vote counting ever again! (Because it won’t)
How can a US president betray “Israelis”. He’s not their president, and America is not their mommies. We owe them exactly nothing. They should get off our tit, and we’d like all the nuclear materials they stole from us returned immediately.
Without the large amount of material and monetary support America provides to keep Israel’s military the strongest in the region, they would get steamrolled by their neighbors. Probably not immediately, but it would be inevitable. Note that I’m not saying anything about whether this is right or wrong from any ethical point of view in any direction, simply that it absolutely would happen. For whatever reason it has consistently been the policy of the American government not to let this happen.
Israel’s very existence as a modern state has been, shall we say, deeply unpopular with its Arab neighbors literally since day one.
the reason is that its free surveillance on the rest of the region. USA wants to keep an eye on countries they seem hostile and their interests (oil).
They also give our surveillance state their surveillance tech and cyberweapons they developed using Palestinians as guinea pigs. They host our police departments and teach them how to treat our citizenry like Palestinians as well.
“You may”?
Trump is such a massive fucking idiot he really could have been the greatest president if the media wasn’t up their own ass with hate
Todays headline: “No president can figure out socialized health care. Obama tried but failed”
Tomorrows headline: “It would take a great president to solve Americas Healthcare crisis”
etc…
Do we tell them that he is the POTUS? Israeli interests should not be something we care about
What about Gazan interests? That’s been known to tilt an election or two.
Never been proven, and I’d bet against it. People overlook that 2024 was a bad year for incumbents overall.
Agreed. People on online politics spaces tend to be very informed and assume the average person is similarly informed. From convos I’ve overheard or the amount of basic questions I’ve had to answer, I don’t think the average American has even heard of Gaza/West Bank/Palestine/Hamas or Netanyahu and probably only know Israel because it’s in the Bible.
Geez I wonder why genocide would tilt an election; it’s not like it’s the most horrible crime man has ever committed.
Well ok, but don’t forget about Hawaiian pizza.
How did Israel transition from a US base in the Middle East into the country that visibly holds the keys? Blackmail? Money? Religion? What the hell happened?
All of the above
I find myself asking this question more and more… But not just the US. How the fuck does Israel have so much power over so many countries. Like just look at the UK and how they’re treating anyone even protesting for Palestine. It’s insane how much power they have over so many countries… I just don’t understand how.
The Epstein class. It wasn’t just a sex ring.
A giant honeypot operation whose goal was to ensnare as many prominent politicians and business leaders as they could into raping children.
And they hoodwink the rest of humanity with “holocaust.”
Guilt for that shit should have run out 70 years ago.
The Holocaust was real, and it’s important to not forget atrocities because as we can see we slip back into them very quickly.
My main issue with HOW the Holocaust lives in the modern western conscious is that it drowns out plenty of other genocides, from the Armenian genocide and the Bengal famine up to more recent ones in Gaza and the Congo. It’s ridiculous to compare genocides as if they can be distilled to a number and compared, but the framing of the Holocaust as worse than the other genocides is so counterproductive to developing the empathy necessary to prevent this kind of thing in the future.
I mean the Holocaust literally happened and Europe and they’re full of racism against romani and recent migrants. People shit on the USA for having a checkered past but at least we know about it. The number of brits who don’t even know about their atrocities in Ireland, their backyard, is nuts. That’s not even counting what happened in their colonies. I talked with a Belgian once who wasn’t aware of how bad their colony in the Congo was.
I understand that the holocaust was real. But that cow has been milked to death.
We should be milking it more. And some people are.
Because what’s happening in Gaza isn’t much different. Slightly less organized. Equally inhumane and unhuman.
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100 percent agree. It was a propaganda plan from the very beginning.
US wanted a “friend” in the middle east to ensure access to oil. And used holocaust guilt to push it to the people back home.
US wanted a “friend” in the middle east to ensure access to oil.
No, thats BS – trying to blame the Us for zionisms crimes. The Nakba wasnt a US invention and that happened right after ww2. Zionism is not America’s fault and does not benefit America at all. Its pure cost and always has been. America already has better friends in the middle east to access oil. It does not need anything from Israel at all-- not commerically, strategically, diplomatically, and things would be smoother oil-access wise if Israeli religious terrorists werent present in the region. We’re there because zionists have money. Some of which we gave them.
Israel has nukes pointed at everyone in range, enemy and ally alike and will fire if there’s a chance of Israel “falling.”
Money. Politics is always all about money. Not ideals/virtues. Not borders. Not cultures. Not ideas. Not what the people need.
All of the above.
Gotta be the Epstein blackmail?
Ghislaines dad was an Israeli agent
It’s so insane. It’s just blatant they dictate our foreign policy at this point.
And it’s disappointing that the Dems are scared of doing without the election funding.
I get it. It’s understandable that they don’t trust voters to look past name recognition and ads. But… I still think it’s a bad call. Being beholden to Israel isn’t worth it, even if it makes us more likely to lose elections.
Call your Dems. Tell them you want transparency in funding, even if it is AIPAC.
Dems as a party could make a big show of rejecting AIPAC altogether and returning all the money. That’d buy them more publicity and goodwill than ads can buy. At least the next cycle.
Good question, but it’s important to note that they only have as much power as they do because they’re being allowed to do so by the US political establishment. It’s not like Israel is writing US foreign policy in the Middle East from the ground up; US foreign policy just happens to be close enough to what Israel wants to do that that’s what it looks like. That’s the base on top of which the blackmail, money and religion are acting, as evidenced by how none of those factors would ever make America act like this with, say, China.
Israelis will blow wherever the wind blows. Don’t let them convince you that they’re totally checking anti drumpf progressives in November when suddenly every other D is taking their money. They will lie, cheat, and steal to keep the US-Zion Siphon going.
That op-ed is from a different author, in a different newspaper, over a decade ago. Not sure what it proves other than “different Israelis have held contrasting political opinions at various points in time.”
That’s crazy! Next you’ll try to tell us that there’s a nation who has elected both Trump and Obama as president!
The headline would cause a middle schooler from the 2000’s to die laughing.
