• Nougat@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    335
    ·
    9 days ago

    Because screenshots of what someone said on social media aren’t journalism:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Mexico

    Mexico has restrictive laws regarding gun possession. There are only two stores in the entire country, DCAM near the capital, and OTCA, in Apodaca, Nuevo León. It also takes months of paperwork to have a chance at purchasing one legally.

    • hohoho@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      120
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      9 days ago

      So you’re saying it’s easier to get a gun in Mexico than a RTX 5000 GPU in the US

        • CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          64
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          9 days ago

          nah. You should probably buy a gun now if you aren’t a danger to yourself.

          EDIT: Assuming you are in the US or its neighbours.

            • Donkter@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              11
              ·
              9 days ago

              Eh, if I’m in a situation I need to use my gun, the gun store is either defunct or I don’t care about federal law anymore.

            • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              9 days ago

              My local gun store is a guy with a pile of ammo the size of a minivan in his attic. He got a FFL collectors license or something, I don’t know the precise legalities, so he can build his own and get rare shit without having to, honestly I’m not sure whether he pays more tax now than he would have, but the paperwork has got to be worse. Maybe he has a paperwork fetish. That actually does sound like him.

        • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          20
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          9 days ago

          If I was living in the US, I’d definitely stock up on guns and ammo at this point. Not that it’ll help, when the fascists come for you, but at least I wouldn’t go down without a fight.

          • YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            20
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            9 days ago

            This is the one reason I’m happy Biden was in office. It gave everyone four more years to prepare. Marginalized communities were some of the heaviest buyers during that time. Small arms have been used to inflict losses on fascists since fascists became a thing. Disarmed groups are substantially more in danger than armed groups.

      • scoutFDT@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        13
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        9 days ago

        Are you implying that it’s easy to get an RTX 5000 in Mexico??

      • Murvel@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        8 days ago

        Yeah, but since the RTX 5000 doesn’t even exist, it’s no wonder

        • M137@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          9 days ago

          It definitely exists, why comment that and not take 5 seconds to look it up? It’s such a common thing and it’s just mind-boggling to me, don’t say shit if you haven’t even tried to verify it.

          • Murvel@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            8 days ago

            Sure, that’s on me. But the commenter was clearly referring to the RTX 5000 generation cards rather than RTX 5000 card since the implication that he’s having difficulties building an AI computer cluster is silly.

  • YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    168
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    9 days ago

    Wrong. I don’t know why Jay Hulme feels the need to lie but there is more than one gun store in Mexico.

    A quick look at Wikipedia clearly shows that there are actually two gun stores.

  • garbagebagel@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    123
    ·
    9 days ago

    So the cartels, who profit directly from the high demand of drugs by Americans, were given weapons, by Americans, to meet that demand of drugs. They then essentially hijacked the mexican government with those guns and violence in order to keep their drug supply available to Americans, meanwhile destroying hope for peaceful life for many many towns and people in mexico. But it’s the Mexicans trying to escape those problems, once again created by demand in the US, who are the problem?

    How very fucking American.

    You know who doesn’t have a fentanyl problem? Mexico. They’re not the ones creating demand.

    I’m simplifying, I know, but I’m very fucking tired of Mexicans and South Americans being blamed as if the US hadn’t fucked the entire country and almost the entire South American continent over for the last 50 years.

    I know I’m probably preaching to the choir here but fuck man I’m just tired.

    • Death__BySnuSnu@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      28
      ·
      9 days ago

      Sounds to me like someone should build a barrier of some sort to keep all those undesirables from the south out of their country.

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    64
    ·
    edit-2
    9 days ago

    Too fast, too furious…

    https://www.cnn.com/2013/08/27/world/americas/operation-fast-and-furious-fast-facts/index.html

    The craziest thing cartels buying guns in America and smuggling them into Mexico isnt that the US government was selling to people they thought were smugglers.

    It’s that the people at the gun store are doing the same shit people are doing all over the place.

    The used gun market is insane, I know a couple people that constantly buy new guns and sell them less than a year later. They don’t question why some person is willing to buy $200 over new price for a used gun.

    And the way the law is structured, that’s in their best interest.

    If a random person walks up and asks to buy a gun, you don’t have to ask any other questions as a “private seller” and since you can only get in trouble if you know that person can’t own a gun, the less questions the better.

    The “private sale” loophole makes every other gun law just a slight hassle to get around. But no one wants to actually close it.

    Edit:

    It also incentives those sales.

    No gun store will pay as much as someone who can’t buy from a gun store.

    So to make sure someone ends up with that can legally have it, the seller loses money.

  • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    48
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    9 days ago

    They do get many from straw purchases here, which is already illegal can get you 10+yr in federal prison.

    But also they get a fuckton of full auto guns that are illegal here from the mexican military’s corrupt members, and other sources like china, somehow they get explosives too including south korean grenades have been found which is wild, and the best is Operation Fast & Furious, where the ATF just directly sold them a bunch of AKs “to track” and then surprise! “lost” them. They get em from multiple sources.

  • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    45
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    9 days ago

    Yeah and not just guns that are smuggled abroad from the US. Most illegal guns in Europe come from former wars, stolen out of abandoned and badly secured depots. The balkans, Iraq and Afghanistan. And once the war in Ukraine is over many unused weapons will flow into the European criminal circuit.

    The entire Military Industrial Complex is making the world more dangerous even during peace time.

    • Final Remix@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      8 days ago

      I’m glad this got linked. It’s definitely the gun version of “you’re not fighting the predator by buying more cats… you’re just feeding it cats.”

  • TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    29
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    9 days ago

    Not sure if I’d really use the troubles as a defense against the proliferation of personal ownership of firearms…

    Kinda hard to claim you’ve been “radicalized” by denying other radicalized individuals the ability to fight off a oppressive foreign government with a long history of genocidal tyranny against your entire ethnicity.

    • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      9 days ago

      … most of witch regimes were set up and funded (weapons too) by the USA or Russia. Usually they were terrorist groups before forming a formal government. And the problem being that the status quo is usually the most profitable and politically beneficial (gives the mentioned colonisers more direct power over the de fuckto marionette countries).

  • Lemminary@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    36
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    9 days ago

    Maybe per city? I know there’s one single gun shop where I live but not for the entire country? Lol

    • BigFig@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      35
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      9 days ago

      Are there most likely small illegal shops? Absolutely. But he is correct. There is only one single legal firearms store in mexico city and is run by the military

    • ramble81@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      20
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      9 days ago

      There are two in the whole country. Finding that odd shows a very Americanized view where gun are ubiquitous instead of controlled which is the exact point of this article.

      • Railcar8095@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        9 days ago

        Not American and I’m still baffled by that. I can think of two in my “small for US standards” city, in a country with less people than Mexico city, although most of their business is for sports and hunting.

        Ask for anything slightly large or automatic and they’ll laugh all the way to a cell.

        • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          9 days ago

          Well even in the US it’s quite expensive and difficult to get an automatic weapon. But if you meant semiautomatic then yeah they’re everywhere.

  • UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    edit-2
    9 days ago

    Most places, if not all places there’s a war, there are American weapons. Remember all the people coming after the American soldiers in Black Hawk Down, well they used American weapons.

  • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    9 days ago

    Accuracy of this post aside, would anyone be surprised if many of the cartel leaders are on a cia payroll?

    I am not alleging that to be any truth, but i would digest that information like a weather report claiming rain when you’re still soaking wet from having been outside.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      36
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      9 days ago

      You hardly have to speculate.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor

      Condor was formally created in November 1975, when Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet’s spy chief, Manuel Contreras, invited 50 intelligence officers from Chile, Uruguay, Argentina, Paraguay, Bolivia, and Brazil to the Army War Academy in Santiago, Chile. The operation ended with the fall of the Argentine junta in 1983.

      In 1980, Regional Security Officer James Blystone had met with an Argentine Intelligence Source. In the declassified memo, Blystone had asked about the disappearance for two Montoneros that had plans to travel from Mexico to Brazil to meet with other Montoneros. The Argentine Intelligence Source had explained that they had been taken and interrogated, and later contacted their Mexican and Brazilian counterparts for approval to conduct an operation to capture the other Montoneros that were expecting their arrival. Once they were under custody, they had utilized fake documents to check into their hotel to impersonate their presence and not alert any other Montoneros of their capture. They were imprisoned at Campo de Mayo

      The Mexican Connection of the Iran Contra Affair

      In what newspapers here are calling ‘‘the Mexican connection’’ to the Iran-contra affair, the Mexican political establishment and its right-wing opposition are trading charges that each has maintained improper contacts with American organizations supplying aid to anti-Sandinista forces in Nicaragua.

      Critics of the opposition National Action Party accused the party of treason after it was disclosed last month that a prominent party member met several times in Washington last year with Carl R. (Spitz) Channell, director of the National Endowment for the Preservation of Liberty.

      Mr. Channell recently pleaded guilty to conspiracy to defraud the American Government by raising tax-deductible contributions for a purpose that was not deductible: buying arms for the contras. He was an associate of Lieut. Col. Oliver L. North, who developed the contra arms supply network while working for President Reagan’s National Security Council.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9rida_Initiative

      Some examples of Mexico’s paramilitary abuses at the time included the sexual assault and rape of dozens of female detainees by police in San Salvador Atenco, and the disappearances of dozens of teachers in the state of Oaxaca in 2006, as well as the killings of seven innocent bystanders, including the American journalist Brad Will by off-duty policemen. Almost half of Mexican police officers examined in 2008 failed background and security tests, a figure that rose to nearly 9 of 10 policemen in the border state of Baja California

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          edit-2
          9 days ago

          Gunwalking (Wide Receiver/F&F) is at least allegedly intended to map firearm traffic for the purpose of orchestrating stings.

          I might argue the Republican scandalmongering was about shielding their deep state counterparts from being outed, rather than persecuting CIA linked gun trafficker assets in the ATF.

          But maybe I’m wrong. Maybe everybody is just stepping on one another’s dicks.

    • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      9 days ago

      They almost certainly are to some extent. That being said no cartel works for the CIA. The CIA isn’t nearly as good at espionage as some think.