• CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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    LOL, what is the U.S. going to really do to Israel if they don’t listen? Cut their funds? Bomb them? Whatevs.

    The Epstein class has spent decades instructing everyone that Israel interests are “our” interests. I’m not sure it’s even a large percentage of the elitists’ interests to have us paired with someone like Netanyahu.

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      Fucking congress just gave Israel control of the US army. Trumps not even commander in chief any more. What a stupid, shit for brains moron.

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      19 hours ago

      LOL, what is the U.S. going to really do to Israel if they don’t listen? Cut their funds? Bomb them? Whatevs.

      Biden went through the same game. “I called up Mr. Netanyahu and was very firm when I said this is the line in the sand and not to cross it. And if he crosses the next line, I will be even more firm in my next phone call.” You could say the same of Trump 1, Obama, Bush, Clinton…

      The last president to do anything resembling opposition to Israel was Ronald fucking Reagan, ffs. Everyone else has been some combination of impotent or apathetic.

      I’m not sure it’s even a large percentage of the elitists’ interests to have us paired with someone like Netanyahu.

      Israel functions as an enormous money laundering operation. When we look back on the country in another hundred years, I suspect we’ll count it similar to Cuba when it was under the yoke of the US Mafia or South Africa during Apartheid or The Philippines under US imperial occupation. It’s a place for the rich to hide their money, a place for the industrialists to ruthlessly exploit the working class, and a place for nativist freaks to live out their genocidal fantasies.

      Add in that Israel has a special place in the hearts of the religious grifters and their zealot marks, and you can see how the country works to launder fascist ideology into liberal moderate talking points. Theocracy gets whitewashed as Democracy. Settler colonialism becomes a kind-of Land Back for white nationalists. Police brutality that would make an LASD deputy wince is massaged into liberal self-defense.

      Elites have interest in the Israeli state both as a fortress of imperialists abroad and a model for conquering native peoples around the globe.

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    And just yesterday…

    https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/americas/artc-i-call-the-shots-trump-says-netanyahu-will-have-no-choice-but-to-accept-whatever-deal-us-makes-with-iran

    “‘I call the shots:’ Trump says Netanyahu will have ‘no choice’ but to accept whatever deal US makes with Iran”

    I hope the folks who continued to argue that Biden or Harris could have stopped Netanyahu are paying attention…

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      I don’t think Biden or Harris could have stopped Netanyahu. I do think they wouldn’t have joined in on attacking Iran, getting us into this quagmire.

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        Cutting off supplies of weapons and ammunition would go a long way. I don’t think Biden would have, but Harris might have done so under the Lehey(sp?) Act

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          It was the only thing she really had to do in order to secure a victory and she flat-out refused. Also, she could have spent less time with Liz Cheney and tanking all the momentum she had gotten in the summer.

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      Biden said israel should not attack Rafah he did it anyway. Stop wesponizing the palestinian struggle. Fuck biden, harris and trump. Stop crying about how your bitch lost

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        (WHOOSH)

        The point is, Netanyahu doesn’t give two shits what the US says or does, regardless who is in power.

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          Tbf, if congress turned against Israel he’d have to, but that’s what they’ve got AIPAC and Adjacent pacs for.

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          Because you are fool who believe that israel control the usa. No, most america president are just acting like they are powerless when they have the power . Netanyahu refused at first the oslo accords and was forced to accept it because he was thretened with concrete actions. Yitzhak Rabin cancelled those 6,600 settlement homes becsuse HW Bush freezed 10 billions of dollars to israel there is many other example of Israel listened to the master

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            Ahhhh… the days before AIPAC!

            https://legis1.com/news/susan-collins-2026-senate-race-the-money-behind

            “The single most notable funding source in Collins’ campaign is the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. AIPAC bundled more than $538,000 from 315 individual donors in a recent filing period, according to the Bangor Daily News, and accounted for nearly 20 percent of all money Collins raised in 2025, per Zeteo. Cumulative AIPAC contributions to Collins over her career have been reported at approximately $647,000.”

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              Aipac existed during oslo accords and when bush freezed 10 billions of dollars from Israel.

              Aipac is fully funded with american zionists, politician willfully take thr money, americans willfully voted for them for decades. You can’t whitewash american responsibility from the top to the bottom.

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                  You know it is bullshit but you still want to suck the usa dick and making excuses for it’s imperialism actions. Like i said aipac is funded by americans, politicians willfully accepted it’s money and americans voted for those candidates. The usa can destroy israel economically. Israel can’t.