Strategic voting is a huge mess. The NDP doesn’t even get the chance to really fail and when they do get to influence policy they do generally positive things like when their coalition was able to get the Liberals to behave.

Maybe they wouldn’t be able to hack it, but they at least have generally better goals for the country and we desperately need to threaten this cancer of an idea that there are only two parties. Right now the country is either far right or half-ass centerist and things just keep getting worse. We’ve tried the Liberals and we’ve tried the conservatives and they both don’t work that well so we really have nothing to lose and worst case scenario we would prove that we aren’t a two-party system in a cheap disguise.

The last election was dogshit awful for strategic voting because of just how bad PP is and Liberals still only barely made it. And Carney’s still gunna let that loser try again after being kicked out of the riding I’m from.

Jesus Christ, why do you want to be the victim so bad? Are you getting off on this or something?

I’m literally saying that no one is mad at you for not being perfect, I specifically said that I’m not perfect either, and that the only reason anyone would ever be mad is that you seem to think it’s important to point that this simple thing is hard and this very grammatically correct thing “feels” wrong.

1. Shut the fuck up about grammar. If it feels weird, fine I won’t even really disagree(with conditions), but there is absolutely no grammar based excuse and that entire topic is a dead-end that only seems clever if you don’t have a basic grasp of the language. People on French have new things they try to do and you can’t handle a thing that already works?
2. Saying you’re “playing along” and “agreeing to behave according to your rules” is just downplaying the entire thing and is incredibly invalidating. Stop acting like someone has a gun to your head, you little baby.
3. No one cares about ideological purity, it’s just the fact that you’re being a douche about it.

But explain how this is different in an actual grammatical sense.

Yes, it is incredibly minorly different in how it feels and guess what, it gets easier if you stop moaning about it and just lean into it. I simply refer to most people as “they” now and it both hasn’t caused any communication breakdowns and it’s made it super easy to not slip-up. Barely any mistakes these days, and it really didn’t take that long.

You’re making such a big deal out of it and for what?

“I don’t see any escape routes” “really only two choices”

The NDP are right there. You can prattle on as long as you want but if you want to see change then you have to ask for it. He NDP has popular ideas and they were behind so much of the good stuff the Liberals put their name on but people act like voting for them just isn’t possible for some reason and then moan when people they did vote for don’t care after about them after the election.

The only thing that truly matters is your vote and if you don’t use it properly, while complaining that you’re getting what you ordered, there’s just no helping you.

Lol somebody’s man. This reads like a low-effort version of Sweet Home Alabama, a song written because Neil Young’s Southern Man dared to politely ask the souther states to be better during a time of bonkers racism.

As others have said, it’s not the fucking pizza and you know it.

You so very very much did not. The only difference is that you simply don’t want to make a non-binary person comfortable.

There is absolutely no rule in the English language that states that if you know someone’s biological sex(of which there are more than two but let’s keep it simple) you must use the corresponding he/him/his or she/her/hers pronouns for them. You can 100% use “they” in reference to your own damn mother if you wanted to, it’s all above board.

So, please, explain the difference between the two things you mentioned before. I’m simply dying to hear what you have to say.

Oh, go on then, explain it. I’d love to hear the nuanced differences between these two uses of 3rd person singular “they” for when he or she are not possible to use.

Buddy that’s a whole lot of words to say you’re fucking tool. I’m not even trans, just a cis dude with non-binary friends and a basic understanding of how the English language has functioned for hundreds of years. If your brain cannot handle saying “they” then said brain is fucking pathetic. Figure it out, and if you really can’t at least don’t go trying to make it everyone else’s problem you absolute twat.

Like, it’s not even that you’re having a hard time with a very easy concept, no one is perfect and the added stress of getting it right will occasionally lead to mistakes. My friends don’t hate me when I mess up because they know I’m trying, and people hate you because you’re putting more energy into saying you won’t even try, and calling them schizophrenic for some reason, than just putting in the bare minimum effort.

It’s one of those things that’s never a problem until it might help someone else feel more comfortable and then suddenly it’s this whole thing.

Oh, to be there when you say “they” haha

Or to watch you struggle to force yourself to say he/she so I “lose”.

It’s ok, we’ve only been doing it for hundreds of years; it’s just a passing fad, right?

Literally you already do it without a problem. You have, and I would bet large sums of money on it, said in regards to someone well know to you “they forgot it at home” or something to that effect. You already do this without thinking, the only extra layer is that you’re trying not to get it wrong, not that it’s difficult to get it right.

Just practice some more. You still won’t be perfect but these people literally do not care at all so long as you’re trying and aren’t attempting to take their rights away. They have bigger fish to fry.

The Cleopatra quote is talking about individuals; Individuals which we know make up a group, but individuals nonetheless.

“Anyone” is a similar concept. You talk about a single person(it’s right there in the word) and apply that condition to however many people. An example in a group of all men would be “anyone may leave the room if he so chooses” and even though it sounds weird, because we heavily favour the singular they, it absolutely works.

This has strong “everything is a conspiracy when you don’t understand how anything works” vibes. Your lack of understanding shouldn’t have to be everyone else’s problem.

You said it takes mental effort and I’m on a bit of a crusade. Fine, fair enough, but you did bring up unnecessary friction and shit like that is often used as an excuse to not try as hard or excuse people that don’t want to try at all(though yes, you do try).

Ok, then demand we bring “thou” back with the same fervor. Maybe I’m missing that crusade in your life but if you’re gunna go around acting like “they” is difficult I would expect equal frustration with “you”, no?

Look, as long as I have time to clean up afterwards there’s no shame in her asking for help and then adding on something extra if she’s feeling it. I will always do what I promised to do and anything more is, well, more.

Besides, showing up without tools and expecting sex is fucking weird and fixing someone’s stuff out of the kindness of your heart is rewarding no matter how the evening turns out.

So, singular “you” also has this “plural grammar” you mention and we don’t say “thou” anymore. So what’s your point, then?

People really don’t want to treat trans people properly and they’ll even pretend shit they already do easily is somehow weird and too difficult. I’m just a cis dude over her, with a host of non-binary friends, and for the most part I just say “they” and haven’t died yet. And I fuck it up sometimes and don’t get hung from the rafters like these goons think will happen, probably because the only scenario they know is when they get it wrong on purpose or are otherwise agitating someone.

You’re saying that as if you speak to an individual and say “you is”. Do you do that?

We’ve been doing it for hundreds of years. If you really want to fix something then come up with a plural for “you”; that would be far more helpful.

You may not notice those times you say “they” like in the examples I already gave, but you do say it, and the only thing tripping you up is that you’re thinking about it. It’s like breathing, it’s weird when you’re paying attention but it’s not wrong and you’ve always done it.

“They are running late”. We’ve been using the singular “they” for hundreds of years, it isn’t that difficult. German uses third person plural for polite second person singular, it’s not that weird to have third person plural be third person singular, too, especially when English makes no distinction between between “you” and “you”.

Anyway, it’s simple shit.