i wouldnt be surprised if beastiality is also involved but not revealed, since beastaility often goes hand in hand with PEDOPHELIA And other deviant behaviour. illicit discussion board on the dark web, or obscure sites have lal these combined, it stands to reason that epstien paraphelia island has it too.
Anyone remember the Panama papers?
It’s crazy how much corruption is on full display. I guess that’s one of the only positive things about the internet lately. We can see the whole world is going through it. All the time.
The internet has also made a suziable part of the population billionaire defenders.
We just need to hope that when the time comes, ALL the pawns turn around.
That journalist in Malta does.
Or she would have, had she not been murdered with a car bomb.
Putin was all over those. But we went straight into a Russian Reset under Obama, regardless.
Almost as though corruption is a feature, not a bug
The only person in prison is a woman
the only one that hold the keys to ratting all of them out, but they are keeping her quiet.
Advocating for them (the government, whatever team they happen to be on) acting on the Epstein files is like asking a toddler nicely to punish themselves. It is not in their best interest to do so, because it hurts their main benefactor, the owning class. The only way to have a shot at this happening is if the government is no longer owned by the owning class. To get there, you’d need to get rid of a number of things:
- the threat of capital flight (“if you do something I don’t like, I will take my gizmo factory elsewhere”)
- the ability of the owning class to shape the opinions of the electorate through owning the media (social and legacy) they consume
- the ability of the owning class to legally bribe politicians (“if you do this thing I like, you will get a cushy job at my gizmo factory, or I’ll pay you 500k to talk at my event for an hour”, also super PACs)
Until you get rid of all this, no one (on any side of the aisle) will ever do anything about the epstein files, no matter how many parades/protests you do. Your collective votes do not weigh up against the three points I mentioned. See also the Panama papers.
Oh and voting doesn’t work to fix the three points, because the three points ensure that most candidates (on either side of the aisle) do not benefit from doing anything about them, and the ones that do don’t have much of a shot at winning (see point 2).
If everyone is on the same evil side, overthrow the government already. Why wait?
Democraps definitely havent been trying to pass positive legislation for decades and succeeded some of the time. Theyre the exact same!
Now let me go snort some glass and coke!
Oh shit yeah you’re right, I forgot about the democrats! I love how they advocate for universal health care in their campaigns, as well as workers rights, and anti war stuff. Remember when Harris said she actually didn’t like fracking? Man those guys really care about the environment. I really loved how they didn’t send billions in military aid to a nation committing a genocide. Oh and remember when they reinstated roe v wade? Man that was heroic. Personally, I’ll never forget when Biden released the Epstein files and prosecuted the people involved in the pedophile sex ring, similarly to when Obama acted on the Panama papers and curbed billionaire tax evasion. Thank God these guys never bailed out any banks. Very glad they’re on our side, and clearly not beholden entirely to corporate interests.
This totally justifies Trump 😄
I don’t understand why you would say this. Could you explain?
When you have an unfortunately biased 2 party system, you can choose the formless weird airline food or the pile of glass and barbed wire. You are suggesting that we do nothing at all, or just not vote, which helps glass barbedwire burger-man.
We can progress out of shit soup, but we are headed toward fascism. We just need to get rid of Dumpling first. Dumpling, then AIPAC and replace congress, and eventually the presidency. Throwing a fit and being cool with a worse (now potentially unstoppable) option doesnt make you morally superior or anything of the sort. Leopards, meet face.
Man why am I even arguing with a bad faith arguing bot, tf is wrong with me.
Not a single investigation
Why would the blue republicans investigate the red republicans?
You see why they rather bomb Iran than deal with the Epstein case
Why don’t they redirect their bombing lust toward the rapists & cannibals & pedophiles among themselves?
And they say they can’t catch criminals if end to end encryption exists. All this was over email in plaintext with their primary addresses.
You’re not distinguishing between “can’t” (e2e) and “won’t” (the obscenely rich).
they know, but some of us are above the law and it shows… clearly.
This Right Here!
*in the US. Norway has charged Thorbjørn Jagland and in the UK Peter Mandelson and the Andrew formerly known as Prince were arrested, plus a number of other countries have criminal investigations ongoing. All so far for corruption rather than sex crimes but that’s probably a function of what’s easier to prove in court.
the Andrew formerly known as Prince
this gave me a good chuckle
He was released quickly. He and the diplomat were only arrested for leaking state secrets. GHCQ couldn’t even pretend to give a fuck about the kids, rapes, murders, etc…
Andrew formerly known as Prince
Iirc, that was for sharing state secrets, not for being a pedophile rapist.
On the one hand, whatever sticks. On the other, WHY can’t we somehow make child sex trafficking charges stick?
We already knew after Jimmy Saville (a high profile celebrity, pedophile, and sexual predator who victimized hundreds - likely thousands - over a period spanning sixty years, only getting “caught” after his death when victims could speak up without fear of reprisal) that there are a large number of people in British media and government who are not only willing to turn a blind eye, but to actively assist a predator in acquiring fresh victims and crushing any investigations into them, either to avoid scandal or because someone even higher up the chain told them to. It’s not surprising that the rot reaches all the way to the top.
Rape cases are notoriously difficult to prove, even if the victim goes to the police immediately and there’s physical evidence taken.
First of all, the supposed rapist can say “There was no rape”. At times, the physical evidence can make that seem unlikely. In particular if there’s evidence of violence and there’s semen, then it’s easy to believe that violence + sex = rape. But, if either of those is missing it’s hard to prove that a rape even occurred.
Second, the supposed rapist can say “It wasn’t me”. Before DNA analysis it was hard to prove who was at the scene. These days, if there’s semen at the scene at least you can say that a certain man was present and involved in something sexual.
Third, the supposed rapist can say “It was consensual”. Given that most of the time there are only 2 witnesses, it’s difficult to say which witness is lying and which is telling the truth. A jury might have a strong suspicion, but a strong suspicion isn’t “reasonable doubt”.
In the Epstein cases, you can at least sometimes eliminate the third objection. If the victims were underage, they couldn’t consent. But, that still leaves the other two major issues. Those are the ones that really require physical evidence. And, in these cases, the evidence is long gone. So, you can’t prove that a rape occurred using physical evidence, nor can you prove that a certain man was at the scene using physical evidence. What you’re left with is two witnesses using their flawed memory to recall details of something that happened a decade ago.
Maybe using flight logs and emails you can prove that Andrew was on the island at the same time as a victim. Maybe you can put Andrew in a photograph with the victim, showing that he had met her at some point. That’s enough to be very suspicious, but it’s not enough to get a rape conviction.
Now, you said “child sex trafficking” not rape. But, if anything, that’s even harder to prove. Step 1 of proving sex trafficking is probably proving the “sex” part, and that’s going to be extremely difficult a decade later without any physical evidence. As for the trafficking, you’d have to prove that certain people were moved to certain places. But, that would rely on accurate documents like flight logs listing everybody on a flight. But, we’ve seen that a lot of the flight logs are incomplete, or they don’t name the girls on the flights.
I’m sure there are powerful people trying to slow, stall or stop any attempt to prosecute anybody for what happened. But, at the same time, even if they were putting in a massive effort, it might not be possible to actually get a conviction anymore because too much time has passed and too much of the evidence is gone.
Because when the top people presiding over sex trafficking cases look in the mirror, they find 14 year old girls attractive too.
Because money and power are more important to people making decisions than doing things for the betterment of society.
Sadly the best people to lead are usually people who don’t want positions of power like that.
Not that anyone in the “royal” family did literally anything to get where they are…
Iirc, that was for sharing state secrets, not for being a pedophile rapist.
They got Al Capone on tax evasion.
They got Al Capone on tax evasion.
yeah because that’s what matters to the overlords: that they get a fair share of your profits, doesn’t matter where you got them from
Andy was released after 11 hours. The british “police” keep tradesmen in jail longer for having a utility knife on them.
Im going to hell for laughing at that Prince joke.
No you’re not.
I’m going to hell because I can’t find my wallet I think I left it there
Oh, cool. Do you also go to hell in the winter to escape the cold? I go every year
Better book now, the view condos are already taken.
Well I’m sure you could use the exercise.
Don’t worry, they’ll get to it once the Panama Papers are dealt with 😎👍
Wouldn’t even be a far fetch to believe one of the reasons nothing happens around the Epstein papers are the assassinations of journalists who investigated the Panama papers…
And we see only the tame half of the Epstein files. The other 3 mil have not been released
Exactly. It’s not random, they keep the worst, most damaging parts redacted or unreleased…
This country is so fucked
Is it just “this country”?
I mean outside of America people have lost their jobs and their titles and potentially jail time due to appearing in the files. You can argue it’s not enough but I will stress outside of America there has been some semblance of accountability.
In America absolutely nothing has happened. Nothing. Speaks volumes of the nation.
The emperor is without his clothes. We all see it.
In America absolutely nothing has happened
Not true. Maxwell was transferred to a plush jail until the rapist-in-chief can fully pardon her.
yep
Not just 'Murica, but unfortunately the civilised world gets dragged into their stupidity and bullshit
Epstein was literally mossa…
Okay still counts.
Yep
Shit’s fucked
Can someone please enlighten me on the fucking cannibalism?
I have not read any of the files yet, but I have been told they include unsubstantiated and un-investigated reports, some of which may be “trolling” and not even attempt to contain any truth.
That said, cannibalism is, IMO, a lesser moral failing than what the victim reported (and continue to support).
I read a bit of the stuff from the tip line. Some of it is very raw, and that’s putting it nicely. Like, I had a neighbor who was troubled by delusions. Some sounded spot on like that, a story that wasn’t just absolutely wild, but didn’t fit with some known facts.
So remember how maga thinks that Hillary was farming kids for something apparently called adrenochrome in their blood ?
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/pseudoscience/qanons-adrenochrome-quackery
Well…it’s always projection, every time.
Most likely codename for drugs, “jerky” for something or other. It just takes away attention from the real crime of raping underage people. Yeah, maybe some got raped to death, but that don’t mean anyone ate them.
Let’s just say, not everyone who went to that island made it out… alive
What could the details possibly change?
Well, the cannibalism not happening, for one.
Personally I think its possible. They are very … creepy people.
Yeah I know what you mean. Child murdering pedophile slavers are one thing, but cannibalism is where I draw the line.
Excuse me, cannibalism!?
The released files contain the anonymous tips people sent in, including ones sent after Epstein became public knowledge. This tip was likely fake (or at least the fading embers of my faith in humanity hope it is), but we’ll never know for sure due to the DOJ’s refusal to investigate any of it.
It’s good that they don’t investigate it now. They’d just bury anything they want and purposefully do a bad job. If a shred of normalcy ever returns to the White House then it can be investigated properly
You mean like when Biden was in power?
Silly Biden - back then it was presumed that the president shouldn’t interfere with investigations like that. They should be done apolitically, and independently.
Communications use shortcuts. You didn’t define what “return to normalcy” was and I didn’t put restrictions on what that meant. After the first trump presidency, there was already a “return to normalcy” in which the US government was in stable enough hands to do all that, and nothing happened.
I wasn’t saying that “Biden needed to personally handcuff trump and put him behind bars” I was saying “the US already returned to a state of normalcy where the correct investigation could have happened and justice dealt, however this was not done.”
I agree. Biden was too worried about looking like he was politically interfering and even put republicans in charge. He get them a chance to clean house and they failed miserably. And so Biden failed clearly also. Hopefully if they get another chance, the gloves come off.
Putting William Barr, a Republican and someone with multiple indirect connections to Epstein*, in charge of the investigation ranks among the stupidest decisions Biden made during his presidency. He killed any chance at seeing justice done and opened the doors for a second Trump term out of his outdated belief that reaching a hand across the aisle is still effective in a post-civility politics era.
This whole clusterfuck could have been avoided if literally anything had been done to prevent it, but Biden’s desire to appear impartial had him put someone in charge who had multiple reasons to slow-walk and kill the case. A case where, again, any ethical lawyer in Barr’s position would have recused themselves given his historical connections to Epstein.
* Through the law firm he used to work for as well as his father. AFAIK there no direct link between the two, but it was still enough to make him an unacceptable choice.
Trump was still firmly in control of the Republican Party and Miller still held the reins.
Then it sounds like their control of government and power is what is ‘normal’.
the fading embers of my faith in humanity
I feel seen.
As I heard it, literal newborn infant cannibalism.
And given how literally everything the right says is projection, it matches up completely with the shit they were accusing Hillary Clinton of
Well, Bill isn’t an innocent man either.
Then lock him the fuck up. What is confusing about this for you?
The US sure as shit has the jails and prison space. Heck, I bet the US might even have enough judges, cops, and prosecutors to arrest and try 2, or maybe even more, geriatric pedophiles at the same time.
Yes we would all love to see that, but the Clintons and Biden made sure that didn’t happen.
Epstein coverup was a democratic-led game for a long time.
It’s not just the Clintons and Biden. Harris and Trump are just as bad on this issue.
True, I’m just saying that whichever party is pretending to run the US, it becomes their job to cover up the files.
That was then this is now. Explain now to me.
Civilizational collapse is what’s happening now.
WhatAboutBillism
I wasn’t the one who brought up Hilary
She was brought up as an example of projection, you brought up Bill as whataboutism. How are you this dumb?
Ya don’t say
There’s straight up emails and texts of him questioning chefs about it they can make “shrimp” in all the colors, the potential chefs are disgusted by “shrimp” but think it could be worth the money. Shrimp is their term for fetus.
Also let’s not forget about the jerky and all the people who just absolutely had to have more like it was a crack addiction and how they couldn’t get more jerky when Epstein was “trying to get back on normal food”.
There is no fucking way they served fetus from all races around a platter. Get a hold of yourself.
Wtaf
Even what I said is barely scratching the surface of just how fucked the whole situation was, go read the files for yourself. The only way we improve after this is by having a majority of the global population read these sick fucks own words about it.
Watch this:
Now I’m aware this dude (flesh simulator) has gone of the deep end a bit, but I think that’s kinda expected and understandable based on his video history. That was mostly after this video though, and only kinda in some ways, he’s not gone complete loony.
(And, obviously, graphic content warning. No images or extreme audio, just the stuff you picture while he’s going through everything. It’s not fun, don’t watch if you feel even a bit unsure if you can handle it).
Some people are choosing to interpret a few references to food items like jerky and cream cheese as code for cannibalism. Any case like this is going to attract a certain amount of noise around it - including the belief that nothing is being done to investigate it - which just muddies the real crimes. I’ve seen people try to involve space aliens in all this.
That shouldnt be as shocking as it is compared to the other things…but it is
They’re literally a Satanic cult pretending to be Christians.
Here’s a video about the cannibalism part, I seriously can’t imagine it being anything else than that.
(Graphic warning content. No fucked up images of audio, just the ideas and images you get when he’s going through everything. Don’t watch if you’re even a bit unsure if you can handle it).
Yeah, maybe I’m being dense, but I don’t see any cannibalism evidence presented in that video. After watching it, I’m even less concerned something like that might have happened.
I’m all for believing they raped underage people. Teens, preteens, kids. I can believe that. But these “jerky” things are so fucking lazy, it’s just drugs. It’s a lazy codename for drugs. And the stupid chickenleg picture is just some old art project photo from Spain or whatever country it was.
