I often see people in the comments acting like having a fast or loud car immediately makes your dick smaller or that you have ED. And people talk about owning a car as if they’ve never gone above 40 MPH and are terrified to do so.

For context I live in a city with actually ok mass transit, don’t own a car, and prefer to bike/take the train whenever possible. Trains, trolleys, bikes, and feet are the best forms of transportation imo.

That being said, body shaming or making fun of people with physical or mental issues (that may be no fault of their own) is just shitty. It makes this community look shitty. I hate reading comments about “loud car small dick this” or “fast car ED that”. It’s unnecessary. You can shit on asshole drivers without having to stoop that low. Secondly, some women enjoy cars as well; be more creative.

Finally, don’t act like cars can’t be fun. I’m all for phasing out the automobile and revolutionizing transport by returning to the ways of olde, but cars are fun. I understand some of you are grandparents and don’t like someone revving their straight pipes mustang down your block on a Saturday morning. That’s completely reasonable. But my god does this community act like you can’t have fun in a car. I absolutely enjoy loud and fast and powerful cars, because that’s an incredible work of engineering and it simply can be fun. Going fast can be fun. Being in a car that purrs like a lion can be fun. Going offroading or drifting or racing or anything in a car can be fun.

We won’t convince people to see our side by shitting on the things they enjoy. We convince people to try and see things from our point of view by actually looking through their perspective first, and acknowledging that while cars can be fun they are not sustainable.

ETA: Some people seem to think I think public roads should still be for cars. Never did I say that. I think the appropriate place for cars is the track. I would love to convert all the roads in my city to a mixture of bike and pedestrian lanes with trolleys running down the median. But cars can be fun and a track day can absolutely be a great time.

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    Always remember: when you criticize someone for a characteristic they have you criticize all members of that group whether you intend to or otherwise.

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    “Fuck cars” is an easy statement to make in NYC.

    “Fuck cars” isn’t a very serious statement to make in the middle of Oklahoma.

    We all know why, which is why this is a joke sub. You can’t have zero cars. The world outside of Queens isn’t an endless sea of more buildings and bus stops, I’m sorry. Read a map.

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    I absolutely enjoy loud and fast and powerful cars

    You know, I like dinosaurs. But I wouldn’t want one roaming the streets.

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    Yeah this place can be a bit vitriolic tbh. The body shaming is cringe and should be addressed (thanks for addressing it). I am also of the opinion that cars are very cool and fun in the right setting as well as being fascinating from an engineering perspective. Perhaps we should call eachother out on these things more? I think more people would listen if we didn’t seem like we just hated cars for being cars

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    Having a loud car is literally one of the most asshole things you can do.

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    End small-dick hatred. Body shaming isn’t okay no matter what.

    For every lifted coal roller, there is a small-dicked, eco conscious bicyclist.

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    I mean, look, I come in here and argue with these guys all the time, but the sub ain’t called “I politely disagree with cars”.

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      but the sub ain’t called “I politely disagree with cars”.

      How often have you gotten your penis stuck in the exhaust? Titles should rarely be taken literally.

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    Agree with the body shaming, plenty of shit drivers across the spectrum. Don’t care so much about cars being fun as a means to justify their prevalence. But to acknowledge the counter argument of the culture we seek to criticize does have its merits in effective debate.

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      That argument wasn’t to justify their prevalence, but moreso that refusing to acknowledge it won’t get us anywhere. See edit for more info

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    I don’t go for making fun of people’s imagined dicks or sexual performance. Seems immature and bundled with problematic paradigms.

    People can have fun with cars, true. People can have fun with anything. The problem is cars are everywhere and not limited to fun places. like if people had a “cover yourself in honey” fetish and just went everywhere covered in honey, demanded honey dispensers everywhere, got everything sticky, and started wars over honeybees. I don’t care how much fun they’re having , they’re making everything worse for everyone else.

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      See the edit to the post. I’m not advocating for cars everywhere. But people in this community seem to believe that cars simply shouldn’t exist.

      Twinkies are horrible for you and evidence of the sin of capitalism, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t tasty and nice as an occasional treat. If capitalism didn’t exist they probably wouldn’t exist, but I’d still make Twinkies if we had star trek replicators.

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        But people in this community seem to believe that cars simply shouldn’t exist.

        I don’t think most people genuinely believe cars should exist for no one. I think some posts here are hyperbolic, like when you say “I’m going to kill my brother for stealing my Pokemon cards”, you don’t really mean it. It’s an emotional outlet.

        Most people I’ve seen recognize that lowering car usage makes it easier for when you do need to drive (for accessibility or moving or whatever, not so much for fun)

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          I’ve had people on fuckcars argue that delivery trucks shouldn’t exist at all, that it should just be handled by a fleet of people on cargo bicycles. I can’t understand how people don’t understand the scale of the economy and the distances and weight of deliveries.

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            Delivering a couch from a warehouse in NJ to an apartment in Queens via bike sounds challenging.

            I’m glad most food delivery here is by bike and not car, though.

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    If we replace “small dicks” with “sociopathic tendencies and pitiful personalities”, will you still complain?

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    I somewhat agree with you but whenever I stand next to one of those guys in a Lambo with a hot young girl who need to accelerate full BBRRAAAAAAAAAHHH until the next traffic light 30 meters down the road, I’ll still assume you have a tiny penis and are trying to make up for it. It’s not the tiny penis I care about, its the “I’m so insecure that i need a Lambo and a hot chick to feel like i matter” that irks me.

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      For me, it is the complete disregard for the safety of others that disgusts. Speeding or driving a tank sized vehicle is like playing Russian roulette with the lives of others. It is deeply anti-social and unhinged from my perspective

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      Right, I think the post is specifically trying to say that calling them insecure is fine, assuming things about their body can be bad even if you think it’s an asshole who deserves it. Like you already came up with a more creative and apt insult anyway, why throw body shaming into it?

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    My favorite posts on here are ones that address the underlying causes that make us want to say “fuck cars.”

    As a resident of northern Utah, I see all the time the negative results of the intersection of car-centric city planning, religious idiocy, and “small government” conservatism.

    I like cars. I don’t like the political system that allowed car companies to circumvent environmental standards and push ugly ass trucks and SUVs.

    I love going for long drives to see new places. I hate that so many interstates were built to destroy “undesirable” neighborhoods.

    For example, the I-190 from Buffalo to Niagara Falls ruins public access. The Robert Moses Parkway that runs along the Niagara River to the Falls does the same. There isn’t the political will to fix these things.

    That pisses me off

    I love driving. I don’t like drivers who have received minimal training because the state thinks having a drivers licence is more of a right than a privilege.

    I think everyone should have to pass a more rigorous road test every 5 years. I think anyone who buys an RV should have a Class B CDL.

    I don’t like roads that make it dangerous for pedestrians, cyclists, scooter riders, etc.

    I want there to be better public transportation. I want high speed rail.

    Are there drivers who are absolute assholes and drive unsafely or intentionally cause excessive air/noise pollution? Yeah. They should be shamed for their behavior.

    However, not all bicyclists obey the rules of the road. I rode an electric scooter for almost 18 months as my primary mode of transportation. I had more close calls with cyclists and other scooter riders going the wrong way or ignoring traffic devices than with cars.

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    Good on you to call out body shaming when you see it.

    Body shaming is still far too accepted and pervasive in our society and it should be called out every time we encounter it.

    Thank you for this post. Keep fighting the good fight.

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    I choose to believe that men with small dicks don’t inheritently need to over compensate. It’s possible that they are considerate and able to satisfy their partners. And it’s equally possible that men with larger penises are selfish lovers, and feel insecure, needing fast/loud cars.

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    Usually I get shit for pointing out that US urban areas continue to be built as if everyone is expected to drive their own car, and automotive lobbyists still discourage public transit projects and reducing parking requirements.

    And this continuation of policies that maximize car dependency not only exacerbates the climate crisis, but the tires spread microplastics everywhere, usually with single people driving Canyonero style vehicles.

    Some people in this community really, really like their cars.